They do not have the backing of all of the Intaki people. Just extremist that wish to join the Caldari state for more lax trade. As an Intaki myself, I am appalled at their traitorous behavior. Their taking of arms against an entity that poses us no harm is completely against our traditional values of peace and diplomacy. Do not trust them.

Freedom? Liberty?

If they wanted to found an independent state, I would understand. If they wished to join the Minmatar Republic, I would understand. But the Caldari? Freedom and Liberty are not synonymous with that... Society, if that is what you want to call it.

I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.

And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.

And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?

You claim us to be terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.

You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean.

I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine.


Just a little back story.

The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow.

We Intaki do not technically have a religion. Just a set of codes we live by and act by. Ida is a lifestyle not a religion.

Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog!

By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell.

You cannot say that gallente people dont have faith or gods,i have strong faith in my own religion and i worship my own maker/god my own way.The only difference is that I do not force my faith on anyone, like ammarians do

Mr adamance i did not commented your wrintings,i commented deadly aztecs writings.And when i tell that not every galletean lack faith or belives,how that make me egoistic? And that comment that ammarians force faith to everyone,i dont say every one in your culture does that and every one approve of slavery,but still the vast majority of ammarians do belive in slavery and force the belives and your ways every culture that your empire has captured and enslaved.And that is know fact trough-out new eden and when the people get freed from slave status,because i have heard stories from minmatar refugees and also ammarian defectors who has escaped from ammar empire,that there is many slaves in the empire, who have embraced the faith and follow the belives like the true ammarians.And still hasn`t lose their slave status,and also there has been people who has been more ammarian than real ammarians but still has died with slave status.

I am part Intaki myself. My mother was a survivor of the Waschi Uprising. To elaborate, her family was abandoned by the Federation simply for standing up for what they believe in, and found the Caldari to be their for them in their time of need.

The Caldari share a deep spiritual and cultural bond with the Intaki. We see eachother's faith as different understandings of the same truth. Truely, they have a better connection with us than they do with the Gallente. Caldari annexation of Intaki lands would make sense, but the State understands the importance of self determination. If we don't allow nations to choose their own fate, we are no better than the imperials.

While that is true, you misunderstand. My comment on imperialism is any empire that insists on expanding its reach by subjegating foreign lands. I was alluding to the actions of the Federation, though I have made it clear in the past that I do not approve of Amarr expansionalism. The Caldari have never looked favorably upon invaders. Spirits, even the Achurian joined the Caldari not out of an imperial mindset, but to instill protection against potental Federation occupation

The Amarr have got to be the least liked of the Empires. Both the Caldari and us the Gallante have a love triangle with the Minmatar. The Amarr are kind of out of the loop. Us Gallante tolerate them because we are afraid that if we go into full out conflict, the Caldari might take the chance to attack us at the same time. We could always get the Minmatar to attack the Amarrian, unfortunately we do not currently posses enough leverage for them to attack the Caldari.

Yep, classic Brutor stand off.

I do not think that a society that enslaves people are in any position to criticize us on our domestic liberties.

Gentlemen,

It's a fact that the Intaki Liberation Front, the Intaki Prosperity Initiative, and its members have often been falsely accused of being "terrorists", "anarchists", "pirates", "Caldari pets", and so on. It's an old, overworn tactic used by Gallente loyalists who feel threatened by our movement to achieve independence for the Intaki sovereignty.

Now and then, such comments resurface from people duped into believing loyalist propaganda and hearsay. I suppose it's easier for some to make fallacious remarks instead of taking a few moments to actually investigate our corporation and alliance history for themselves.

That DeadlyAztec11 did not, and has not to date, presented any concrete evidence nor cited any sources supporting his claims, especially given information which directly contradicts his statements has been publicly available for years (see also here and here), is testament to this being little more than the usual alarmist stunt.

Having said this, two items DeadlyAztec11 brought up that are actually worth commenting on:

First. Of course we're a paramilitary organization. So is every other corporation and alliance in New Eden that has any sort of semi-organized combat division of some description, including the corporation DeadlyAztec11 belongs to. ILF and IPI have anti-pirate mandates. How else should we go about satisfying that mandate, unless he means we should just politely ask the criminals operating in the sovereignty to GTFO?

Second. As to our movement being funded "directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts", it's also funded directly and indirectly by Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar contracts, too. Whether our soldiers accept public contracts or faction contracts, the organizations that put them up in either category usually have some sort of empire affiliation. Did you also know that ILF spearheads trade hubs in Intaki and Agoze which capsuleer pirates as well as militia pilots from all empires regularly buy from and trade at? That ISK also supports our movement. The New Eden market is a free market and we have no way or desire to control who our customers are. If they don't want to support us they should really spend their money elsewhere. Likewise, as far as the faction contracts go, the four empires decided of their own free will to make them available to unenlisted corporations. If they aren't going to be discerning about where their ISK goes, why should our mercs not take them up on it? The Empyrean War has proven to be a stalemate anyway.

If you have a legitimate concern with our organization, DeadlyAztec11, please do bring it to light. Otherwise, I'd like to encourage you to reflect on where and in what manner you have been obtaining your so-called facts, and to pause and consider more thoroughly the veracity of what you think you know. Perhaps a trip to the Intaki Cultural Center on the homeworld would do you some good, if you can obtain leave from your commanding officer. The center was founded by Saxon Hawke, who also founded ILF and IPI, and is dedicated to upholding and teaching the traditions and culture of our people, and is often a nexus for ILF and IPI members.

I'm all about rationality, it's what I do. How'bout you?

You realize that the Jove wiped out an entire Ammarian fleet without very many losses right?

Largest, they had the largest. The Caldari would decimate you, the Federation would obliterate. Even the Minmatar are beating you in the skirmishes over border planets. To be honest, the Amarrian military is the slowest improving military in between the four empires.

So you are either saying the Minmatar have more backing from non Minmatar when compared to non Amarrian support of the Amarr Empire.

They have more wealth.

Or that they have better leadership.

I am starting to think of this thing, not sure what. It had something to do with logical fallacies, Amarr are good at naming those. Oh, yes! Ad Hominem. Reminds me a lot about you Aztec.

That said, it's best if you stopped replying to him Adamance, he is intentionally trying to bait you and flame you, it's best if you just block him permanently.

Do it.

all 4 empires have their own terrorist organization.

if attacking innocent civilians and destroying buildings out of spite doesn't make you a terrorist, I don't know what does (don't talk to me about the black eagles, everyone knows there terrorists)

Objective: Disinformation


My objective was to rile up support for unity among the Federation. Normally an act of domestic violence would be enough, unfortunately, resources are tied up at the moment. That said, we needed a scapegoat, the ILF does a nice job. It has been a problem for our bureaucratic leaders; two ships with one missile, no? Plus known contact between the ILF and the Intaki Syndicate adds *proof* of terrorist activities. Plus the name even sounds menacing, sounds like some Minmatar militia.

The ILF has actually done some shady things, though, not enough to be actually be terrorists. But the Public need need not know that, aye? ;)

Just a test run, we don't really plan on going official with this. Probably just going to let it seep into conspiracy circles, youth counter culture and popular media. We want to incite doubt in people's minds, over potential enemies of the Federation. Now if the ILF ever slips up, a [small] part of the populace will shed light on this theory.

To be honest, I don't like doing a lot of this desk work, I prefer to go out into the field. Whether it's a camo assignment, dark OP (not black) or a loud raid, it feels natural. Though, I guess this is what happens when you blow up a 28 billion dollar sub ocean base... My bad. Now my battlefield is a desk. Though, they won't keep me here forever, you can't keep EZ ISK down!

Yeah, but can you put them together in foreign territory, without the locals figuring it out? Can you also make them nearly undetectable? That SOB was high tech!

Actually I would reveal my status as a third party operative. Mostly due to my current assignment, the study of the psychology of conspiracy. This is what this thread is about.

((Just wanted to jump start a conversation in this channel. Get some blood pumping, get people posting. P.S you are suppose to dislike my character. I am going for the "shady bad guy, who is kind of stupid yet a little funny, and is random enough to be good guy at some point". I am playing many angles with this character. From Federation fanboi to clone who has a personality disorder due to my 1st generation implants. Chill out broski ;) ))