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Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Freedom? Liberty?
If they wanted to found an independent state, I would understand. If they wished to join the Minmatar Republic, I would understand. But the Caldari? Freedom and Liberty are not synonymous with that... Society, if that is what you want to call it. Soldier, the Intaki Liberation Front is "pro" precisely one group, and that, as far as I can tell, is the Intaki. They might arguably be associated with the Intaki Syndicate, on politics if nothing else, but that's really their choice whether they associate themselves with the Syndicate or not-- and, from what I gather from Mr. Kalamari, they presently don't.
As for the Caldari, they're neutral to what most of us on the State's side of the fence would describe as a fault. I can't even drag Mr. Kalamari along into the Caldari side of a battle as a mercenary; it would violate his corporation's neutrality.
We literally can't pay him to get involved in the war. Some Caldari-aligned "terrorist" he makes. |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm all about rationality, it's what I do. How'bout you? Humans (and human-like organisms, generally) can try to be rational, but mostly we just use reason to come up with justifications for decisions we've already made. Cognitively speaking, reason is a tiebreaker.
People who claim to be rational pretty much invariably aren't. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:07:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:if attacking innocent civilians and destroying buildings out of spite doesn't make you a terrorist, I don't know what does (don't talk to me about the black eagles, everyone knows there terrorists) Can you provide some examples of such behavior, soldier? I know they seem to have mellowed, maybe, a little, over time, but I didn't recall them getting up to those sorts of games. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:58:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:There is no need to lie. Agreed. Now if we could just agree on who is lying (or simply mistaken).... |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:59:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:well.. I may look like a hypocrite but the ISK payout is what took me.
im in an eve online amarrian corp lol ... Um, possibly not so hypocritical, soldier. After all, you did make it plain that you're mostly in it for the destruction. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:10:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:well.. im always talking about how I follow the federation with pride. Respectfully, being as nationalism makes an excellent excuse for feeding the hole behind one's eyes, I tend to take nationalist sentiments from self-described destroyers with a grain of salt, soldier.
Perhaps that is only my own rather jaded perspective, however. |
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:im mainly in this for the ISK I get payed from EVE pilots.. im apparently the 1st dust merc they have, better not ruin their view on the rest of us Mm. ... hm.
Respectfully to all concerned, it is likely to be some time before they, themselves, will be in a position to pay you. Our economies are presently isolated from one another, as you of course know.
I admire your patience. |
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:02:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Objective: Disinformation
My objective was to rile up support for unity among the Federation. Normally an act of domestic violence would be enough, unfortunately, resources are tied up at the moment. That said, we needed a scapegoat, the ILF does a nice job. It has been a problem for our bureaucratic leaders; two ships with one missile, no? Plus known contact between the ILF and the Intaki Syndicate adds *proof* of terrorist activities. Plus the name even sounds menacing, sounds like some Minmatar militia.
The ILF has actually done some shady things, though, not enough to be actually be terrorists. But the Public need need not know that, aye? ;)
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Just a test run, we don't really plan on going official with this. Probably just going to let it seep into conspiracy circles, youth counter culture and popular media. We want to incite doubt in people's minds, over potential enemies of the Federation. Now if the ILF ever slips up, a [small] part of the populace will shed light on this theory.
To be honest, I don't like doing a lot of this desk work, I prefer to go out into the field. Whether it's a camo assignment, dark OP (not black) or a loud raid, it feels natural. Though, I guess this is what happens when you blow up a 28 billion dollar sub ocean base... My bad. Now my battlefield is a desk. Though, they won't keep me here forever, you can't keep EZ ISK down!
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Really because I can buy sub ocean bases for a fraction of that value. Yeah, but can you put them together in foreign territory, without the locals figuring it out? Can you also make them nearly undetectable? That SOB was high tech! Best be sure to include in your report to your superiors that you outed yourself as a spook, a sower of disinformation, and an unspeakable screw-up very shortly after disseminating it ... all in the self-same forum topic.
Soldier, you would be severely damaging my opinion of Federal intelligence if I were gullible enough to think that they had actually hired you. For your own sake and our sanity, please go speak with your corporation's resident counselor.
Literally, seek professional help, please. |
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm not a soldier. If you insist. Clone self-alleged spook, then.
Quote:Second of all, outing myself was simply a test to see what the effect would be on the minds of mercenaries. As expected, it discredited me almost immediately. This is valuable knowledge.
If we choose to apply this method, we could discredit our own ops by "leaking" them before they are actually leaked. In this way, anybody else claiming to have evidence of the same project would be discredited before they could get a decent spot light.
Genius, no? And I presume the fact that you have now outed that stratagem, as well, is merely another turn of the wheels within wheels of Federal intelligence (assuming it would even work as described, which seems ... generous).
Soldier, or whatever, on the chance that you're just playing at all of this, a note:
Credibility is based on a certain quality of genuine-ness. Once lost, it cannot be easily recovered-- not even by revealing the mask and dropping all pretense. So if you are not in fact "going 514," you won't be able to reclaim what you lost merely by dropping the act.
A liar who stops lying is just that: a liar who is not lying right now.
And what you are pretending to be, if you are pretending, is not gaining you credit. You are hemorrhaging credit.
IF, on the other hand, what you portray yourself as is genuine (in which case not one word of mine will reach you), and IF that is where we are all eventually headed....
... at least I can look forward to being queen of my own little reality some day. Perhaps we can work out trade routes across the borders. |
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