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Kaleena Elianos
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:21:00 -
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Gentlemen,
It's a fact that the Intaki Liberation Front, the Intaki Prosperity Initiative, and its members have often been falsely accused of being "terrorists", "anarchists", "pirates", "Caldari pets", and so on. It's an old, overworn tactic used by Gallente loyalists who feel threatened by our movement to achieve independence for the Intaki sovereignty.
Now and then, such comments resurface from people duped into believing loyalist propaganda and hearsay. I suppose it's easier for some to make fallacious remarks instead of taking a few moments to actually investigate our corporation and alliance history for themselves.
That DeadlyAztec11 did not, and has not to date, presented any concrete evidence nor cited any sources supporting his claims, especially given information which directly contradicts his statements has been publicly available for years (see also here and here), is testament to this being little more than the usual alarmist stunt.
Having said this, two items DeadlyAztec11 brought up that I are actually worth commenting on:
First. Of course we're a paramilitary organization. So is every other corporation and alliance in New Eden that has any sort of semi-organized combat division of some description, including the corporation DeadlyAztec11 belongs to. ILF and IPI have anti-pirate mandates. How else should we go about satisfying that mandate, unless he means we should just politely ask the criminals operating in the sovereignty to GTFO?
Second. As to our movement being funded "directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts", it's also funded directly and indirectly by Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar contracts, too. Whether our soldiers accept public contracts or faction contracts, the organizations that put them up in either category usually have some sort of empire affiliation. Did you also know that ILF spearheads trade hubs in Intaki and Agoze which capsuleer pirates as well as militia pilots from all empires regularly buy from and trade at? That ISK also supports our movement. The New Eden market is a free market and we have no way or desire to control who our customers are. If they don't want to support us they should really spend their money elsewhere. Likewise, as far as the faction contracts go, the four empires decided of their own free will to make them available to unenlisted corporations. If they aren't going to be discerning about where their ISK goes, why should our mercs not take them up on it? The Empyrean War has proven to be a stalemate anyway.
If you have a legitimate concern with our organization, DeadlyAztec11, please do bring it to light. Otherwise, I'd like to encourage you to reflect on where and in what manner you have been obtaining your so-called facts, and to pause and consider more thoroughly the veracity of what you think you know. Perhaps a trip to the Intaki Cultural Center on the homeworld would do you some good, if you can obtain leave from your commanding officer. The center was founded by Saxon Hawke, who also founded ILF and IPI, and is dedicated to upholding and teaching the traditions and culture of our people, and is often a nexus for ILF and IPI members. |
Kaleena Elianos
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.09 06:16:00 -
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True Adamance, and others: your continued support in this discussion is greatly appreciated.
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:all 4 empires have their own terrorist organization. However the Intaki Liberation Front is not a terrorist organisation. if attacking innocent civilians and destroying buildings out of spite doesn't make you a terrorist, I don't know what does (don't talk to me about the black eagles, everyone knows there terrorists) They do not do this though. There is no need to lie.
You, DeadlyAztec11, are the liar here. Where is your proof that ILF pilots or clone soldiers have ever attacked civilians? Where are your examples that our corp members have ever acted "out of spite"?
If such proof or examples actually existed, you would have presented them already.
What do you hope to accomplish here? Do you think that others on this forum are so lacking in reasoning or cognitive abilities that they will believe you simply because you keep repeating yourself with no evidence to back it up?
ILF has existed for over five years. Its alliance, IPI, has existed for just over three. In that time, neither entity has declared war against another entity except in one instance and then only to aid an ally against an aggressor. The rest of the time, ILF and IPI have only engaged in combat against CONCORD-recognized pirate entities (the Serpentis) and hostile capsuleer groups who were either self-proclaimed pirates, Serpentis allies, criminals by virtue of COCORD-monitored security status, or red to ILF and/or IPI by virtue of attacks or war declarations against ILF or IPI assets and personnel. We have always adhered to NRDS and, more recently, NHDS combat philosophies.
We have operated the Intaki Prime Relief effort ever since the first occupation of Intaki by State forces, and the program (which benefits all inhabitants of Intaki Prime) has gone on to become a general support program which regularly receives donations from the public.
We were vocal opponents to the Senate's decision to deny citizens of occupied territories the right to vote, and when Tibus Heth arrogantly proclaimed that Intaki (and other occupied systems) were little more than commodities that could be auctioned off to the highest State bidder, we cried foul then, too. Thankfully, the Blind Auction has since been invalidated.
We are the foremost entity in New Eden campaigning for true freedom and improvement to the quality of life of all who live within the Intaki sovereignty and have always, always promised that we would not pursue violent secession.
What logic would there be in flying in the face of this history by supposedly attacking civilians, the very people we wish to help? None. At all.
So I ask again: what do you hope to achieve? Do you take your fellow mercs for idiots? |
Kaleena Elianos
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.10 05:38:00 -
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Wow.
So he concocted a bunch of lies about ILF but couldn't be arsed to even try to fake any evidence to go with said concoctions, then once pegged for lying, openly admitted to doing exactly that, and then went on anyway to spout off some more lies (again with no evidence, concocted or otherwise) and...what? We're supposed to start wringing our hands because this poor performance might make a few conspiracy theorists notice that he showed no evidence for there being any conspiracy that he never properly outlined in the first place and admitted was his own lie?
I laughed. Seriously, man, thanks for the chuckleGÇöI needed it tonightGÇöbut don't quit your day job. Or night job. Or whatever it is that you do when you aren't doing this "spook" stuff. |
Kaleena Elianos
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.11 23:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Plus known contact between the ILF and the Intaki Syndicate adds *proof* of terrorist activities. Plus the name even sounds menacing, sounds like some Minmatar militia.
The ILF has actually done some shady things, though, not enough to be actually be terrorists. But the Public need need not know that, aye? ;) You are scum. Blind accusations of terrorism against completely innocent and random groups for no apparent reason... This paints the Federation in a bad light, to have such idiots amongst us. Innocent? YOU THOUGHT! Might not be terrorists, but they shady.
What "known contact" between ILF and the Intaki Syndicate? Did you actually do any research on us at all or did you just run a query for the word 'Intaki' and hope to get lucky?
Some of our past and current members have familial ties to that area of space, which gives them reason enough to go there from time to time, but as a corporation and alliance, Syndicate is outside our area of operations. The Intaki Syndicate itself is a known haven for criminals. I'm told even the Intaki Space Police aren't shy about admitting their ties to the underbelly of Syndicate society.
It would be hypocritical for ILF to decry the actions of pirates like the Serpentis in Placid but agree to work with Syndicate groups like that. Our Suresha will have nothing to do with the Syndicate in its current state, so there is no "proof" of anything you say.
The exiles are to be commended for their perseverance in the face of meddlesome Federation arrogance, and certain lessons can be learned from their experience and certain achievements. But they ought to be pitied for the path they chose which has fostered such proliferation of crime and illegality. There are other, honorable groups in Syndicate working to rout out crime and piracy there, and ILF wishes them all the best luck in those efforts.
To be fair, the 'shady' Syndicate groups you are trying to link us to aren't terrorist groups either, to my knowledge. They're just on the wrong side of the law. If you're not careful you're going to bring them down around your head. Pretty sure they'll do worse than speak sternly in response to your accusations about them.
But speaking of shady, how exactly is ILF 'shady'? Again you make unsubstantiated claims and you just expect people to believe you? |
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