Well im pretty sure using a LAV to run people over is glitch as well. mainly because even ccp has posted patch notes to the effect that they are changing it. so to continue to use it would fall under your definition of cheating?

Probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted Taste. I'm ashamed to know you're defending melee glitching in PC matches. Thought you better then that.

your actually correct


you will always be wrong because you cant actually have an opinion about the definition of a word...

thats why there are definitions in the first place... so they have a consistant meaning in order to convey complex ideas

hence why making up your own definitions tends to cause people to looka t you funny and tell you your wrong

lol disagreeing with me by agreeing with me... your troll parents raised a fine troll

I realize now you don't actually have an opinion, youre just trying to sustain yourself with troll tear jelly.

I now find you amusing... bravo!

i was saying yes, unless you compeltly agree with me then your wrong...

because thats how definitions work

i can say its my opinion that an orange is large, green and has a red center then walk around in topics about oranges with my new "opinions" on "oranges" everyone would look at me like im a complete idiot and try to tell me what an orange really is


thats whats happening here... it doesnt matter what your opinion on what an orange is because its a ******* orange not a watermelon so stop walking aroudn calling watermelons oranges and expecting people to respect your new definition

lol you are adorable... I like oranges

Can you stop your BS? You gave your 'opinion' and someone disagrees with it using a definition - so you call them a troll because of how he asserts it. Just move a long - you don't consider using not intended game mechanics cheating in PC. We got it.

didn't realize he needed a knight in shining armor... I was being civil, I stated my opinion and he turned into a troll... obviously because you agree with him you attack me... that's ok, ive seen how much trolling you do on these forums so youre just gonna have to deal with me. HTFU

That's cute - he may of been a troll but at least he kept logical. The BS I'm asking you to stop are one lined insults that are out of subject just to defend your opinion. Keep on subject or stfu. If you feel you're right then you don't need to respond to every little thing - regardless if he's using definitions and you just opinions.

Lately I've been getting into it with Kujo because one of his members goes 20+ using the melee exploit. I argue this is cheating as it's a not intended feature used to win PC matches. He claims Exploiting is not cheating therefor, acceptable.

So I'm at a loss since we can't come to a conclusion. So I'm asking General Discussion. Is exploiting/glitching in PC considered cheating? I just want to finally lay this topic to rest and know more clearly which of us is right.

the beutiful thing about facts is, it doesnt matter if you dont agree with them... they are still true

Do you two wear each others underwear as well?

a. Investigation shows that a player has employed the use of an exploit tactic despite a public announcement being made to alert players they will be banned for using it.

e. A player renders himself invulnerable through the use of a bug.

c. Is aware of an exploitable bug and fails to report it to Game Masters and/or distributes the information to other players.

Are you still trying? I wasn't even trolling you - just telling you to get logical or stfu. Poor kids these days get offended so easily. I blame bad parenting - they're not willing to beat there kids.

I think it's not cheating. Most other PVP games - if someone gets a jump on you in CQC you are dead: melee, shotgun - does not matter. Seems fair that a guy should get his kills if he can close in onto players reliably for CQC.

No question, the mechanics are broken. However, if turbo controllers for TacAR were not a cheat, neither is this.

lol.. I don't have to try. the fact you feel the need to continue to respond to me tells me I have done, not tried.

Anywho - I got what I was looking for. Over 15 people agree this is indeed cheating - the minority say it's not but still a frown-able act.

It's clear AE is abusing mechanics and defend it without any logic whatsoever other then, "But intended game mechanics are cheap enough - so what's the problem with glitching?"

So there you go Kujo - you're cheating to win PC matches. Pure and simple.

Exactly.

Like the glitch on Line harvest where you can go inside the box at C. I see people (myself included) try to hide in that box to get some easy sneaky kills. That is cheating.

Fair point - but melee is a known 'glitch' the turbo controller was not considered a glitch. It was something that that special controller enabled.

Same logic works on you...

I would have to disagree

Double standard on yourself, eh? Because I see you continue to respond also...

TL;DR the thread

Is Alldin using his LLAV to rep himself all over the map a glitch? An exploit? Cheating?

Was the backpack reload in HALO: Combat Evolved a glitch? An exploit? Cheating? Some considered this a necessary skill to be used regularly by the 'pros'.