Come on if the guy gets that close to you he deserves the kill

This is simply an 'exploit', it's an in game mechanic that you utilize a repetition of the same actions to get the exact response out of it. So in turn it's an exploit, not a glitch. Just being honest. :)

I know it's like if your getting meleed to death its like what scrubbery is occurring if you let someone get that close to you?

The best part the qq crowd has to say is "well when they sneak up on a heavy it is an insta gank!"

The words are funny coming from an assault player crying about the glitch. GOTTA GET GOOD PEEPS!

The thing is its just not as game breaking as the invisible glitch you candidate survive if you spot him first.

a glitch is something that happens in the code that produces a result that wazsnt intended

an exploit is when someone takes a glitch and recreates it to gain an advantage


learn the definitions in this context people

and exploit IS a glitch, its just what you call a glitch thats being used to gain an advantage...

and so a glitch isnt cheating, it wasnt done on purpose and it wasnt done for an advantage

an exploit however was done expressly to cheat

AE does not get to choose if it is an exploit or not. CCP does.

We know for a fact that CCP does now know what they are doing. A reasonable person might see it and think. "Oh yeah CCP screwed up or did not think about it." But how does anyone know they did not think about or that they did screw up. For all we know they thought. "yeah we want super fast melee attacks and we do it by using sprint to clear the attack"

For all we know it is working as CCP intended.

FPS has it's shares of glitches and exploit abusers, always has. (and just flat out cheaters) But coming out to use any of these on some FPS games well.... Haha. you think hate mail in this game is the worse you will get?

*Some people take competitive FPS a little too serious*

Yeah. Tho they are the ones that smear the game more then the cheaters.

Anyway, this has been going on since beta. nothing new. K/D doesn't matter here. So all the crazy stuff that leaks in RL in other FPS games doesn't happen here.

In dust? it ain't cheating. its exploiting. which is a **** thing to do, but not cheating.

Takes skill to melee someone dood. If it was cheating every tom di ck and harry would be doing it. Honestly if your getting sucker punched you need to get good and stop crying because they would shotty you to death any way.

Because if exploiting is cheating.. then everyone would be cheating. CCP still can't code this game worth it's damn. from closed beta to now. can you count all the exploits? I can't. too many. and still new ones that are gonna pop up.

cheating makes it so there is no counter. exploits can still be evaded or countered. One gives you an edge. the other is close to game breaking in how you almost can go with out dying.

LAG SWITCH? cheating.

GET GOOD *RIPS OFF SHIRT*

Im sorry my amarrian brother. Lets pray this cheater gets the whipping he deserves.

You tube was always the source for exploiting and glitching and flat out cheating. kids couldn't help but post their **** there. lol


anyway, last time I checked PC was objective battles. Is it really the exploit thats giving them an edge to win, or them winning cause of exploit? The army with the higher ground holds an edge in the battle field. also the army with the most archers. or the one guy in the army carrying a gun to sword battle.

They all give an edge, but don't guarantee a win.

It comes down to two things. Community perception, and developer perception.

In fighting games, the use of all glitches is considered fair play, even if the glitch gives an overwhelming advantage. This is because fighting games move so fast that the use of glitches can't really be actively policed. Also because it's bred into the community mentality. When you go into an arcade and put your quarter in and someone uses a bunch of glitches to beat you, what are you going to do about it? Not a damn thing, that's what. the game doesn't care, your quarter is gone. The guy running the arcade likely doesn't give a **** either, to him the game is the game.

The only exceptions to this are absolutely game-breaking glitches that stall the match out, and even then, it's up for debate depending on the tournament organizer.

All-in-all, this creates a community perception that glitches are fine, and anyone who cries "exploit" is just acting like a little girl who doesn't have what it takes to win.

On the developer end, very few developers regularly update their fighting game. This has changed recently, but there is usually a cutoff point where people just have to deal with the game as it is. And they are not going to police a game, ever. So this reinforces the community perception that its OK.



In FPS games, we do not come from an arcade background. This gives us license to ***** and complain like 12 year old girls a lot more. We also have had the liberty of player-run servers for a long time and the ability to kick individuals who **** us off by doing **** we feel degrades the competitive experience. This has created a community perception that glitches are exploits, and should be dealt with because it is in our power to do so.

On the developer end of the spectrum, the game is classified as an MMO so it is going to get constant attention from the developers. They make it a point to police the game to an extent, and it is expected that they do so in exchange for the business many of us bring them. There are constantly new bugs and glitches cropping up in every update, so its unavoidable that some are used even if its accidental. The severity of the use is what is open to interpretation.

It is most definitely a glitch, and it can most definitely be "exploited" to get the win. And it is used constantly in that fashion. Nobody really wants to lose their character because they violated the EULA, so there are rules outside of the games code that must be followed to an extent. Assuming, of course, CCP is actually willing to step in and do the job they are supposed to be doing.

If not, then it is entirely acceptable for us to exploit it back.

The ball is in your court on that one, CCP.

A baseball player takes roids and gets homerun record its only cheating if he gets caught..perfomance enhancing drugs are banned yet people still take them and don't get caught..would I do it? Hell yeah the best athletes do it so you have to aswell to compete

Would MD's not be an effective counter?

I believe I asked if the MD was an effective counter. As I believe it would be. hint hint.

Nades.. sometimes. but mostly on militia. Shotty? hells yeah! SMG? come on dude, ish and six sin on prof 5? tho i miss my cala.

Thing is your hacking, so that lets me get close enough to smell what just ate. nothing at that range escapes. Re? I can be half a mile away.

Got punched in da eye dood? Here is a patch.



Much betters!

But without the glitch can his melee still OHK? I mean if your hacking and he melee you. I'll admit heavy can't be OHK. But neither can they escape my blasts. my militia shotty rips armor like it's nothing. and never mind the proto breach. I take that one out only when the Minnesota vikings are playing. (come on ponder!)

What does AE mean?

I need more wine. White wine. :[

*realizes the forum game is funner than the actual game*

Well im pretty sure using a LAV to run people over is glitch as well. mainly because even ccp has posted patch notes to the effect that they are changing it. so to continue to use it would fall under your definition of cheating?

lol you are adorable... I like oranges

didn't realize he needed a knight in shining armor... I was being civil, I stated my opinion and he turned into a troll... obviously because you agree with him you attack me... that's ok, ive seen how much trolling you do on these forums so youre just gonna have to deal with me. HTFU

Do you two wear each others underwear as well?

I think it's not cheating. Most other PVP games - if someone gets a jump on you in CQC you are dead: melee, shotgun - does not matter. Seems fair that a guy should get his kills if he can close in onto players reliably for CQC.

No question, the mechanics are broken. However, if turbo controllers for TacAR were not a cheat, neither is this.

lol.. I don't have to try. the fact you feel the need to continue to respond to me tells me I have done, not tried.

I would have to disagree

TL;DR the thread

Is Alldin using his LLAV to rep himself all over the map a glitch? An exploit? Cheating?

Was the backpack reload in HALO: Combat Evolved a glitch? An exploit? Cheating? Some considered this a necessary skill to be used regularly by the 'pros'.

Well forum troll I'm not sure you actually read my post cause I said nothing about defending anyone I was offering information
based on your logic if ccp considers something is bad for the game and decide to change it for example flaylocks, contact nades etc that these were not things ccp wants in the game. Using this logic we know there will be a change incoming to the lav so would that mean to continue to use it would be cheating?

I have never cared what others do I have been here since the very beginning and I understand that there is always something crazy going on and I choose the HTFU path. I don't come to the forums and cry my little heart out and accuse people of cheating- not my style Pop. However I also know you just want to stir the pot and this is your way of pulling people into your troll threads.

I'm glad you think this one post is dumb becasue you have thousands of posts I think are dumb- however I understand its your way of enjoying dust so I don't need to publicly judge you like you do others.

Your making a supposition that is incorrect the real question is is melee glitching "cheating" and who makes that determination? You? if CCP determines its cheating then it most certainly should not be allowed. Have they made this statement anywhere?

Can everyone repeat this melee action? Except you the most unlikely moral police have deemed to call it cheating what happened to HTFU? if it bothers you so much skill into yourself.