Probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted Taste. I'm ashamed to know you're defending melee glitching in PC matches. Thought you better then that.

Well forum troll I'm not sure you actually read my post cause I said nothing about defending anyone I was offering information
based on your logic if ccp considers something is bad for the game and decide to change it for example flaylocks, contact nades etc that these were not things ccp wants in the game. Using this logic we know there will be a change incoming to the lav so would that mean to continue to use it would be cheating?

I have never cared what others do I have been here since the very beginning and I understand that there is always something crazy going on and I choose the HTFU path. I don't come to the forums and cry my little heart out and accuse people of cheating- not my style Pop. However I also know you just want to stir the pot and this is your way of pulling people into your troll threads.

I'm glad you think this one post is dumb becasue you have thousands of posts I think are dumb- however I understand its your way of enjoying dust so I don't need to publicly judge you like you do others.

Lately I've been getting into it with Kujo because one of his members goes 20+ using the melee exploit. I argue this is cheating as it's a not intended feature used to win PC matches. He claims Exploiting is not cheating therefor, acceptable.

So I'm at a loss since we can't come to a conclusion. So I'm asking General Discussion. Is exploiting/glitching in PC considered cheating? I just want to finally lay this topic to rest and know more clearly which of us is right.

How considerate - you just forgot one thing. The point of the thread was to ask people if they consider this cheating or not. your 'information' suggests using LAV's is cheating if melee glitching is - is that not an obvious defense of abusing mechanics in PC?

Frankly - every single AE has side stepped the question completely and brought up something else instead to move away from the fact your corp is cheating to win PC.

Do you - or do you not condone the use of melee glitching in PC?

Your making a supposition that is incorrect the real question is is melee glitching "cheating" and who makes that determination? You? if CCP determines its cheating then it most certainly should not be allowed. Have they made this statement anywhere?

Can everyone repeat this melee action? Except you the most unlikely moral police have deemed to call it cheating what happened to HTFU? if it bothers you so much skill into yourself.

Lately I've been getting into it with Kujo because one of his members goes 20+ using the melee exploit. I argue this is cheating as it's a not intended feature used to win PC matches. He claims Exploiting is not cheating therefor, acceptable.

So I'm at a loss since we can't come to a conclusion. So I'm asking General Discussion. Is exploiting/glitching in PC considered cheating? I just want to finally lay this topic to rest and know more clearly which of us is right.

Now you're defending cheating in PC because CCP was dumb enough to allow in-seat repping? It's not like Aladin won matches for his side doing it - AE is with melee glitching.

Wait - you are Titus right? Lol I think I may have you confused with someone.

Lately I've been getting into it with Kujo because one of his members goes 20+ using the melee exploit. I argue this is cheating as it's a not intended feature used to win PC matches. He claims Exploiting is not cheating therefor, acceptable.

So I'm at a loss since we can't come to a conclusion. So I'm asking General Discussion. Is exploiting/glitching in PC considered cheating? I just want to finally lay this topic to rest and know more clearly which of us is right.

Lately I've been getting into it with Kujo because one of his members goes 20+ using the melee exploit. I argue this is cheating as it's a not intended feature used to win PC matches. He claims Exploiting is not cheating therefor, acceptable.

So I'm at a loss since we can't come to a conclusion. So I'm asking General Discussion. Is exploiting/glitching in PC considered cheating? I just want to finally lay this topic to rest and know more clearly which of us is right.

There is no such thing as cheating in war, adapt or die.

As fun as it might be to absorb ourselves with the drama of the meta game, this isn't war, it's a game.

worst part is that it isnt a glitch... it was programmed that way on purpose

Right, and using that logic why are you so quick to get all morality about it? CHEATING is the huge buzzword in video games that people jump to when they want to convince others that something is 'bad' in the evil or wrong moral sense of the word.

It's a game. It has no analogues to real life morality and comparisons to such are stupid. Find a bug or an exploit, report it and move the **** on. Or make multiple threads about it on the forums I guess.

The intention of this thread is to discuss the nature of a particular glitch/exploit/cheat. How can it be reported if there shouldn't be a discussion on whether or not there is something to be reported?

Reread the title of the thread. If that isn't a statement about the morality of this glitch, then what is it? A question about whether or not to report it...? Really?

Are saying that you believe CCP still needs a report about the fact that this melee thing happens? Five threads in GD, 10 pages in this thread plus an unknown amount of emails sent to CCP isn't enough?

Far as I know invisible glitch isn't possible in PC - or no one has abused it.

Fair point - but melee is a known 'glitch' the turbo controller was not considered a glitch. It was something that that special controller enabled.

Come on if the guy gets that close to you he deserves the kill

Sure it's a glitch and TAR turbo was not a glitch but both were an exploit. But it's not even the core of my point. Getting up close into someone's face to do melee still brings a lot of risk. A good melee optimized player should be able to kill with melee. If someone uses precious high slots for stims, they deserve the ability to kill in CQC. It's actually sad that melee specialists are an oximoron unless they are glitching because of high things were designed by CCP.

All these thougths are completely apart from whether or not this is a violation of CCP policy and deserves a penalty. It seems to me that this glitch still requires a lot of skill if it's successfully used against strong oponents. And there are a lot of 'legitimate' crotches in the game that, on the other hand, require no skill to be good.