Ought to make having an amarr sentinel suit more suitable too until the other racial suits come out.

This is probably speculation, but I do know the aiming fixes will help the HMG. Hope your not pulling my leg N1ck!

-bazookah

(HMG for life)

Ive never had much issue aiming with my HMG, but the overheat change is certainly welcome in my eyes.

1.4 HMG is OP, I demand a preemptive hotfix HMG nerf.

Hmg dosent really have any recoil when i use it, sounds like a nerf to me.

but the spread is huge. So at range most of your bullets miss

But the skill will reduce recoil, spread will stay same. If it reduced spread then it will be a buff

have you ever noticed your hmg moving up and down when you fire? If not you don't use it enough.

If you let go off the trigger then immediately start firing again there is no recoil, you have to shoot 200+ bullets before recoil really stsrts to pull the gun up at a rate that you cant controll, but like i said this is stoped by letting go off the trigger and shooting again as fast as possible.

doing this reduces accuracy, and DPS. In a straight 1v1 against a heavy, you'll get beat from the guy who's holding his trigger down and controlling the recoil for as long as possible.

Confirmed :-)

DO IT CCP, MAKE AN ALREADY PREPOSTEROUSLY STRONG CQC WEAPON EVEN DEADLIER. GONNA BE GETTING EASY 30+ KILLS IN AMBUSH.

sure we can't change this to a spread reduction instead?

when push comes to shove, the bullet spread is the biggest problem, having a more accurate HMG will make the extra DPS mean something. making it a viable alternative for heavies other than using the forgegun.

I just dont understand why the hmg needs this nerf :(
Please at least make the skill reduce spread

nerf? If your overheating with the hmg i don't know what to tell you

Were trading a decent at best skill for a useless one.

Really? My hmg kicks all over the place, and i have proficiency 4, so it isn't my skills, it is a very inaccurate weapon past 30 meters

Hold down while aiming, its very easy to controll the recoil. Also, im not worried about overheating my hmg, im worried that it will limit the ammount I can shoot at once, essentially limiting my abilty to kill as many people as I can with the reduced heat build up skill we currently have. I think if there going to remove it then we need a skill that will accually help the HMG like increased range or reduced spread.

We'll just have to see. In my opinion this is a huge buff, sometimes that added recoil is so extreme that you will have to stop firing for 5 seconds just so it calms down. Trust me this is a buff, this will only make us stop shooting an extra 50 bullets sooner. and the heat goes away so fast anyways. (Unless you overheated)

*DROOL* I think I may have just ruined my pants. no longer will I need to crouch just to hit someone at 40+ meters!

Accually as soon as you let go the recoil resets and its a lazer again, and its 90 less bullets you can shoot now which is enough to kill between 1-3 people depending on their hp

Confirmed :-)

HHHMMMMMGGG

Fixed.

Nah dude, when you got that recoil maxed out after firing 200 bullets, it's crazy hard to control.

Are HMG cooldown is so fast you will only have to stop firing for like 2-3 seconds anyways. This isn't that big of a deal

W! T! F! Recoil has never been an issue for me, it is extremely easy to control and it helps hitting targets from chest to head. While first starting speccing into HMGs, overheating was my BIGGEST issue because I like to charge into fights and get killstreaks matching orbitals. Now instead of worrying about being on target, I have to look at the bottom of my screen and hope I am not missing. This is bull...I am foreseeing myself spamming 'Respec' threads.

Exactly!

I propose a change to Sentinel bonus: Reduction to weapon heat buildup by 5% per level. Increase in heavy weapon reload speed by 2% per level.

With this change, they need to name the proto HMG the 'Fragile HMG' because boundless sounds like you can shoot it forever

I like this idea, but i think we should change it so the sentenial bonus effects all heavy weapons, this would only effect the hmg, but the racial heavy bonus for one of the heavys (probably minmatar) could get this.

Accually you will because the spread will still be the same

Since the Sentinels are hurting on the high slots it is a shame that 2% couldn't be turned into a bonus for Heavy Weapons Damage. There is something fundamentally wrong when the basic frame type is better than the specializations.

Exactly!

Buff? No, it is a nerf. Missing a target due to recoil is a skill issue; having to stop sending rounds down range because of overheating is a broken weapon issue.

Buff? No, it is a nerf. Missing a target due to recoil is a skill issue; having to stop sending rounds down range because of overheating is a broken weapon issue.

As the God of Heavies, and Lord of all things fat, I banish thee, false donut-chaser from our midst.

Thou naysaying hath offended me, and the company thou keepest maketh my butt drip. Thou doth makest me feel unclean.

On a more serious note:

WAAAAH WAAAH *butthurt*

Get the hell over it. Better accuracy on the HMG means my time to kill just dropped on those caldari sissies and their resistance to kinetic damage. In fact, this one's a "must test" add.

More accuracy to the HMG? Yes please! More reason to not run screaming into crowds squealing like a moron crying about killstreaks? Absolutely.

I was on the fence but the whining has me on the 1.4 heat nerf! YAY!

Stupid idiots don't even test weapon efficiency before they cry about how CCP pooped in their cheerios.

Do us all a favor and disable your keyboard.

when did you ever get this delusion that being right on an internet forum MATTERS?

Why nerf heat buildup and buff something that is already fine?

better accuracy, slightly more heat build up........ now when are we getting our new heavy suits?

Confirmed :-)

I'm on the fence on this one.

I currently have no problem with heat build up, but sometimes the muzzle rise robs me of kills outside of optimal range.

If the HMG's hit detection is fixed in 1.4 heat build up should not be an issue at all. Currently, you have to hold the trigger longer because the hit detection doesn't work quite right, causing heat to build up quite a bit faster.

I'm leaning toward calling this a buff. We will wait to see when 1.4 goes live.

As the God of Heavies, and Lord of all things fat, I banish thee, false donut-chaser from our midst.

Thou naysaying hath offended me, and the company thou keepest maketh my butt drip. Thou doth makest me feel unclean.

On a more serious note:

WAAAAH WAAAH *butthurt*

Get the hell over it. Better accuracy on the HMG means my time to kill just dropped on those caldari sissies and their resistance to kinetic damage. In fact, this one's a "must test" add.

More accuracy to the HMG? Yes please! More reason to not run screaming into crowds squealing like a moron crying about killstreaks? Absolutely.

I was on the fence but the whining has me on the 1.4 heat nerf! YAY!

Stupid idiots don't even test weapon efficiency before they cry about how CCP pooped in their cheerios.

Do us all a favor and disable your keyboard.

5% per level?

This weapon will have less kick than my TAC AR. I sure hope this change has been tested thoroughly.

but the recoil doesnt effect accuracy the spread does.
even if your right on target the crazy spread will make most of your shots miss. in end you will never be able to take advantage of your high dps because many of those rounds are not actually hitting target.

recoil is perfectly managable in your optimal and effective ranges. at your max range you probably shouldnt be engaging enemies anyway unless you have a clear advantage.

recoil only becomes noticeable after 200+ rounds fired. but with this nerf, you will have over heated before the recoil becomes a problem....

please CCP reduce spread instead. i like my enemies dead.

but the recoil doesnt effect accuracy the spread does.
even if your right on target the crazy spread will make most of your shots miss. in end you will never be able to take advantage of your high dps because many of those rounds are not actually hitting target.

recoil is perfectly managable in your optimal and effective ranges. at your max range you probably shouldnt be engaging enemies anyway unless you have a clear advantage.

recoil only becomes noticeable after 200+ rounds fired. but with this nerf, you will have over heated before the recoil becomes a problem....

please CCP reduce spread instead. i like my enemies dead.

revived this one for the complaining HMGers, its already buffed, just your getting mowwed down by AR's.

What?

was buffed in 1.4, people still think its too weak, but its had like 5 buffs already...