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Heligg
LA 501 eme Citizens of Nowhere
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:22:00 -
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yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers? |
KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
586
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:50:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: --- ship my post -- Thanks for your intercalation. CCP can husk that info out of the battle logs apparently on demand. Are there any obstacles to make it into individual players' progress reports available from character stats form on batle per batle basis? Additional tab with scrollable text box containing current events stats, generated by some CCP's batch SQL script scheduled to automatically run once every 24H (or often) will do... There are plans to have the API published much like EVE has. Once that is done then we will no longer need the data supplied in game. Not that it is supplied in game, just that it would be useful for events like this where wins and losses matter yet the game provides not provide them.
However adding the output to the UI is additional work for their small team. Which is why the API would probably be a better solution.
I know how to write the scripts and query databases and most of their server is Ruby (or used to be anyway). Which means I would refuse to write that code anyway, yuck. White space as syntax, I mean really. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
260
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:03:00 -
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Heligg wrote:yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers?
From what I've read in the last few posts it counted as a loss for you. Apparently everything does. I for one won't participate in this event anymore because it doesn't seem very clear what counts as a loss. I have better things to do. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
432
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:06:00 -
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Kal, in post #101, at the top of page 6, CCP Cmdr Wang posted this:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:(...)Not being able to track progress is something we are working on addressing. In the next patch, you will see the first step towards that. I won't spoil it but you'll be able to read what it is tomorrow when the patch notes go out. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1205358#post1205358
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WolfganGt3
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:05:00 -
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Fun event, I have noticed more players trying harder to win , there is less mcc camp or quit than normal.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
606
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:37:00 -
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Heligg wrote:yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers?
you have to get 100wp for the match to count.. so the win/loss isn't counted because you didn't gain 100 wp |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
278
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:52:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Heligg wrote:yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers? you have to get 100wp for the match to count.. so the win/loss isn't counted because you didn't gain 100 wp
Which is amazing, cause certain people in this game will end up AFKing anyway, and then come in and check to see if the battle is a clear win, then just "snag" 100 War Points and count as a win. If done with multiple characters, you can do whatever you like and only spend a couple minutes here and there to squeeze in points for a clear win and get double or triple the event awards.
Sometimes, I don't think CCP is trying anymore...
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Kaheli
Rautaleijona Top Men.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.24 17:04:00 -
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When will you receive the prizes? |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
277
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Posted - 2013.08.24 18:59:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Heligg wrote:yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers? you have to get 100wp for the match to count.. so the win/loss isn't counted because you didn't gain 100 wp
I heard it counts as a loss if you win but didn't get 100 WP. |
Dante Vento
Firefly Shipping co.
19
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Posted - 2013.08.24 19:47:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Heligg wrote:yesterday i entered a match wich ended a few seconds after not giving me the time to get 100WP. Am i disqualified for all tiers? you have to get 100wp for the match to count.. so the win/loss isn't counted because you didn't gain 100 wp I heard it counts as a loss if you win but didn't get 100 WP.
From the Dev Blog first Q&A:
Quote:Only the win/loss rate of the week's first 30, 40 and 50 matches in which you earn at least 100 war points during the event will be considered for the purpose of qualifying for the event rewards. |
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phugger
THE GOD'Z THEMSELVES
0
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Posted - 2013.08.24 20:11:00 -
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It would be a lot fairer on those of us who are making an effort for this event if it was properly advertised and announced on the news page when we log into the game. We are finding it almost impossible to get a decent win/loss ratio due to the number of noobs who are just sitting behind the red line or driving round in LAVs on the far side of the map from any enemies because they do not realize there is an event and their screwing around is losing them prizes and costing those of us who are trying to take objectives our deserved victory when the rest of our teams fail to back us up. This event, as it is currently being held is just frustrating and making people angry at the indifference we have been seeing for the last 3 days. Until EVERYONE is aware there is an event happening it is going to remain unfair to those of us who are making an effort. Will the DEVs please get an announcement on to the news page ASAP and in future make sure an event is announced IN-GAME when it starts. |
exolden shadovar
Iron Havok
15
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Posted - 2013.08.24 22:11:00 -
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Oh great a event with a lot to do for useless loot.....again |
c1ipper
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.08.24 23:17:00 -
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my last match had 9 people with under 100 WP cos we were losing right from the start nobody even tried to kill or capture anything. Says it all don't it.
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Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
45
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Posted - 2013.08.25 11:34:00 -
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Worst event idea in the history of event idea's .. it's basically rewarding pubstomping .. facepalm I'll consider playing again when the event is over .. when an event makes you feel like that then it's a fail xD |
WolfganGt3
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.08.25 14:11:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:LOL this is a bad challenge. it will force you to join up a full squad or join a high rank corp. even more so there is NO balance in the public matches so what if you like running alone and on your side you have nothing but newbies and the other has 2 full squads of (what the french or SVER or imperfects) lol you lose that what. you should make it wins X number of matches not this % thing. i am going to run alone and just join then leave 50 different battles so just to finish this or not play until after the challenge. besides this challenge is CCP way of keep vets players busy and our mind of off CCP lack of NEW content. we want new dropsuits, weapons, vehicles, and maps. not little challenge to keep us busy.
Even at the base level out of 100%, each game is worth 2% u only need to win 42% to get tier 3, that's 21 games.
That's a W/L ratio of .42, really low.
Now having said that , the confusion I have is the three tiers. Each Tier broken down into %'s Tier 1 48% 15 Games 50% of 30 is 15. Tier 2 45% 5 games 50% of 10 is 5. You cant win 4 out of 10 because its less than 45% Tier 3 42% 5 games 50% of 10 is 5.
IF you have to win at a minimum 5 out of ten games in your tier 3 , then all that matters is your tier 3 not the first 40 games. Because the last 10 of the 50 games is the Tier 3 slot. They say keep playing , because if you unlock tier 3 you unlock 1 and 2. So even if you went 0/40 and won 5 out of the last 10 , is it possible to still get all the loot? |
c1ipper
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.08.25 16:20:00 -
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WolfganGt3 wrote:jace silencerww wrote:LOL this is a bad challenge. it will force you to join up a full squad or join a high rank corp. even more so there is NO balance in the public matches so what if you like running alone and on your side you have nothing but newbies and the other has 2 full squads of (what the french or SVER or imperfects) lol you lose that what. you should make it wins X number of matches not this % thing. i am going to run alone and just join then leave 50 different battles so just to finish this or not play until after the challenge. besides this challenge is CCP way of keep vets players busy and our mind of off CCP lack of NEW content. we want new dropsuits, weapons, vehicles, and maps. not little challenge to keep us busy. Even at the base level out of 100%, each game is worth 2% u only need to win 42% to get tier 3, that's 21 games. That's a W/L ratio of .42, really low. Now having said that , the confusion I have is the three tiers. Each Tier broken down into %'s Tier 1 48% 15 Games 50% of 30 is 15. Tier 2 45% 5 games 50% of 10 is 5. You cant win 4 out of 10 because its less than 45% Tier 3 42% 5 games 50% of 10 is 5. IF you have to win at a minimum 5 out of ten games in your tier 3 , then all that matters is your tier 3 not the first 40 games. Because the last 10 of the 50 games is the Tier 3 slot. They say keep playing , because if you unlock tier 3 you unlock 1 and 2. So even if you went 0/40 and won 5 out of the last 10 , is it possible to still get all the loot?
No, tier 2 & 3 are not just winning 5/10 games, rofl, it means that if you do not get 14/30 wins but then manage to get enough wins to make up your ratio 21/50 you win tier 3 and all the tiers below it. the tiers are 14/30, 18/40 & 21/50, it is the total of matches, not just 30,10,10. |
WolfganGt3
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.08.25 18:26:00 -
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Cool , glad that's cleared up, didn't seem so when I was reading rules. |
dreth longbow
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:27:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:ok, making the rewards based on team effort is a step in the right direction,
however you still have not fixed pub stomping (and I really don't know how you can effectively do that) and this event gives pub stompers more incentive to stomp...but not to win rewards, they will get them regardless, but to grief other players trying to get them by continuing the stomp long after they get theirs just to deny others a fair shot.
I think if your going to run an event like this, a special pub match should be included that only allows for up to STD gear to be used that would not only eliminate proto stomping for an event but would also give events like this a raw skill "test your metal" kind of feel.
and im betting you still haven't put any kind of in game tracker for our progress, you all can obviously see how much of a challenge we have completed, doesn't it make sense to give us the same ability? sure figuring out 48% of 30 battles isn't hard and we can use the win/loss counter in our wallet to figure it out... but why make us jump through all those hoops? if youre going to run events where we must get so many of "x" or do "y' so many times, its only prudent to put a convenient way for us to track it in game.
Wow a game tracker, what a novel idea. I have been asking for this for some time. It only makes sense to let us know what stats they are seeing since on every event I have played their stats were wrong and they have had to "do research" to get the right number. the only problem is that you have to fight them to get to someone who will actually do their job and truely find out what the "real" stats were, but to their credit once you get someone at CCP who knows what they are doning and cares they make it right.
So +1 for game tracker |
dreth longbow
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:34:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:This is a great idea with the 100 WP requirement, and the rewards seem real nice, but I foresee a problem.
Since you have to win just under half of your first 30 matches, people will be trying their damned best to make sure they win. Which means:
Protosuits Mass Drivers Grenade spam Oceanic protostomps
The people who don't have the skills for protosuits yet will be screwed for this very reason, and I believe fights will be very one-sided since the matchmaking is still bad in this game, not to mention pretty much no segregation between high SP and low SP players outside the academy. Remember that if you don't meet the requirement for tier I rewards, you can go for tier II and get both tier I and II rewards. This means if you play 50 matches a week, an average of 7-8 matches a day and win 21 of those matches, you will get rewards from all three tiers! You don't have to be Rambo to win 21 out of 50 matches, so the goals for this event are very reasonable.
Yes we would all like to see better rewards, but atleast CCP is trying to fix the problems people have with their events. The 100wp and % reduction as you move up tiers, along with getting all lower tiers is a good idea. It was raining yesterday and I got my 21 wins in now all I need to do is finish the rest of the 50 matches, so 50 matches in a week is not hard. |
dreth longbow
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.08.25 20:44:00 -
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Croned wrote:It seems kind of easy to exploit. Just wait till the end of the match (you can usually tell the winner by then) and if it looks like you're going to win, go kill 2 people. Not that the rewards are worth wasting that time though...
This is true, I have been in a lot of matches where 10 people have 50 or less points until the last 5 min, but it is going to be hard for CCP to come up with a system that is both fair and prevents people from abusing it. If they can not figure it out, except by trial and error, maybe they could actually seek the communities input and maybe have a competition for us to come up with the best way to have events? |
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c1ipper
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:54:00 -
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dreth longbow wrote:Croned wrote:It seems kind of easy to exploit. Just wait till the end of the match (you can usually tell the winner by then) and if it looks like you're going to win, go kill 2 people. Not that the rewards are worth wasting that time though... This is true, I have been in a lot of matches where 10 people have 50 or less points until the last 5 min, but it is going to be hard for CCP to come up with a system that is both fair and prevents people from abusing it. If they can not figure it out, except by trial and error, maybe they could actually seek the communities input and maybe have a competition for us to come up with the best way to have events?
yeah, that's exactly what's happening in half the matches I'm playing tonight
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
210
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Posted - 2013.08.25 22:02:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Okay, so you guys want better rewards for doing events, we get it. We want to make sure the events themselves are working in the right direction before we start throwing out the goodies, and believe me, there are some sweet things coming (for events at least ). We are working on a holiday themed event for later this year, and we'll make sure you guy get lot's of cool stuff, but to do that, we have to make sure the event goals are solid first. So, thanks for all the comments, yes, even from you trolls because even your rants provide useful information and I'll be seeing you on the battlefields of New Eden soon.
To be honest I have noticed that this event , while it may only have low end rewards, people seem to be putting in more effort regardless. |
IMMORTAL WAR HERO
Ill Omens
11
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Posted - 2013.08.26 06:43:00 -
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when I see this event all I think is meh... when do we get to mass murder robots??? |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
343
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Posted - 2013.08.26 08:00:00 -
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c1ipper wrote:dreth longbow wrote:Croned wrote:It seems kind of easy to exploit. Just wait till the end of the match (you can usually tell the winner by then) and if it looks like you're going to win, go kill 2 people. Not that the rewards are worth wasting that time though... This is true, I have been in a lot of matches where 10 people have 50 or less points until the last 5 min, but it is going to be hard for CCP to come up with a system that is both fair and prevents people from abusing it. If they can not figure it out, except by trial and error, maybe they could actually seek the communities input and maybe have a competition for us to come up with the best way to have events? yeah, that's exactly what's happening in half the matches I'm playing tonight
I would have preferred it if it was simply play 30,40,50 matches and get 100 + WP to earn the rewards and say win 20 games over the week to earn a special higher grade reward. At the moment winning and loosing is reliant on match making to a fair extent making the result to random and less skill or perseverance based.
The grind for this event was massive and I have no idea if I will get any of the prizes due to the confusion over the rules especially with the comments being left by IWS. |
Torneido Achura
The Suicide Kingz
16
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:18:00 -
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Get your shi* together CCP, we want really nice "goodies" as rewards for events, please make them more meaningful, like giving BPO (I just donGÇÖt know why my dropsuits for the Caldari Prime takeback are BPC, its bully); the objectives are kinda nice but imo thereGÇÖs a greater need to establish and consider if the events are going to be single or team based, getting that out you can set the objectives/rewards in accordance, for instance "x" number of kills, or hacks-counterhacks, revives/saving teammates, destruction of installations, killing specialists/bloodlusted protos, and so on, and then again this sort of info needs be in the news tab in the game, in some sort of way, resembling the market week offers.
So for this event..
- I've just cap'd, since friday, and didnGÇÖt know of the event.. till now..
- Does the rewards have to do with the event? in this case yes.. then nice
- The rewards are nice or unique? nope.. thatGÇÖs so very really stupid
- What are those ****** goals supposed to mean...? mediocrity?
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MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
79
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Posted - 2013.08.26 12:03:00 -
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Personally I don't see any reason to go for even 30 games as a tanker myself because I cap out long before 30 games and with these rewards there is no point in wasting any ISK to play more games. |
evilzus
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
0
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Posted - 2013.08.26 12:43:00 -
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I like the challenges they come up with... But the rewards u get should be what u spec into Imo the last challenge I got most of them but can't use cause I'm not speed into them maybe it will be worth it if they ever do trade in market |
DJINN Axeman
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
8
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:28:00 -
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Really??!!! CCP should have thought this one through! I've watched people Like Enderr Wiggins just quit before the game ends just because he's losing. How you gonna read that. My alt character thanks you for once again screwing with my tank by first giving out sentinel suits and forge guns and now your giving us adv swarms for free, meanwhile you give us crap for a laser and absolutely nothing ever goes to tanks or pilots. At least if your gonna vamp up anti-vehicle mercs, then throw us a bone and toss us better armor or isk to make up for the tanks you just cost me. Thanks for nothing CCP! |
DRASTYCK MEAXUREZ
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.08.29 15:33:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:This is a great idea with the 100 WP requirement, and the rewards seem real nice, but I foresee a problem.
Since you have to win just under half of your first 30 matches, people will be trying their damned best to make sure they win. Which means:
Protosuits Mass Drivers Grenade spam Oceanic protostomps
The people who don't have the skills for protosuits yet will be screwed for this very reason, and I believe fights will be very one-sided since the matchmaking is still bad in this game, not to mention pretty much no segregation between high SP and low SP players outside the academy.
stop crying |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
865
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:48:00 -
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So far playing solo this has been total crap. Three out of five matches that I have spawned into in the last two hours have already been at least a quarter over. And for some reason I have never spawned onto the winning side...
Not so much a fun event to play through but one that makes all of this game's many flaws all the more glaring. |
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