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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:44:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:It's not as if it takes CCP long to figure out the FOTM or OP stuff...what takes time is fixing it. CCP made Cal Logi's, and were genuinely surprised when the Flaylock became everyones primary weapon of choice.
Sorry, when it comes to identifying balance issues, I trust us more than them :/ |
Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:45:00 -
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Plus this topic looks like Kurt Cobain's brains: blown up, yet people keep debating if CCP is killing the game without respecs/proper balancing, or if the skill tree itself is flawed( why have 5 tiers for dropsuit command if you only need three tiers to unlock everything???? )
And I wish I had a better Kurt Cobain/Dust joke |
0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
2
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:00:00 -
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Obi Wan-Jacobi wrote:low genius wrote:respecs are a bad thing, and they make a 'thinking mans shooter' into a 'well, i'll just skill into whatever is best this month' kind of a shooter. People do this anyway? So why does it matter if CCP makes money so they can make a better game? Your just being ignorant. Its not like you have to respec! If you don't want to use then go ahead. Some people want this. Our community is too divided to make this an EVE type game. Which right now isn't working. The best players of this game quit everyday. The game is too one sided line this. But for some reason the FPS players are the QQ'ers, because they know what it takes to make a good FPS. lol people act like this game doesn't have 2000 people playing. Breaking news, when you have 2k people playing you cant afford to **** them off by not giving a respect. If you want to keep people happy and possibly bring people back this is the way to go. Its a win win for those that don't want the stress of reskilling don't have to, and the ones who want the option can while supporting ccp. Which imo any more cash towards ccp is a good thing. If this game will never live up to its hype with a dwindling player base so maybe this would liven things up slightly and help ccp enough to bring in more players. Anybody that is against a respec is just plain ignorant, as said by obi. There is no outcome to opting out the respec besides losing an all ready small player base. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
546
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:31:00 -
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You don't need a lot of SP to get into new suits or use new weapons. You need a lot of SP to go full Proto. You don't want a respec to try new things, you want to dominate with a new thing, without spending any time trying out the lower tiers. Spending another month with a new weapon until you can get it to Proto level doesn't limit your gameplay choices.
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Obi Wan-Jacobi
Ancient Exiles
19
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:35:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:You don't need a lot of SP to get into new suits or use new weapons. You need a lot of SP to go full Proto. You don't want a respec to try new things, you want to dominate with a new thing, without spending any time trying out the lower tiers. Spending another month with a new weapon until you can get it to Proto level doesn't limit your gameplay choices.
That's true but i to want spec out of certain things that i wasted SP on or that just doesn't fit my playstyle. Things like that. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4347
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:37:00 -
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If you want a respec, you should have to give up 1/3 of your lifetime SP to do so. |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles
210
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:59:00 -
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people are always complaining that respecs would ruin this game and people would just put points into the fotm. This is not eve and it never will be you are playing a fps game and players that come from fps games do no not normally wait months to unlock one piece of gear. If you want this game to thrive then allow respecs, people will be able to jump from fitting to fitting at whatever cost you come up with. I personally would stick with what I have, maybe tweak a few things. Stop being such stubborn old, bandwagon farts and pressure ccp for respecs or this game will slowly fall apart
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
664
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:02:00 -
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Obi Wan-Jacobi wrote:I believe that respecs need to be an option in this game in order to survive. I think there are a few reasons why. 1. Respecs would allow players to try new things and keep this game fresh while we wait for new content. Keeping a bigger player base. 2. Players are able to be more versatile when it comes to PC and gives newer players more chances to get in PC. Players who say want to join Corp A but Corp A has good logi's and your a logi, you could switch to heavy let's say if they're weak in that area. 3. CCP can make money when players want to use the FOTM. Players will skill into the FOTM no matter what. Use flaylock for example, players skilled into it even though it was obviously getting nerfed, but competive players need every advantage in order to succeed in PC. 4. It could also even the playing field when it comes to PC. It could allow for different playstyles. Different tactics! It would be a question what every player runs when you get into a warbarge rather than, "I see two tanks, a forge, 2 heavies, etc..." I think that if CCP put a respec option for $20 or 100 million ISK. That it would ultimately allow for more reasons to stick around while this game get better. I see potential, but something like this needs to happen in order to survive long term. But we can't have an ignorant player base that either complains about every little flaw or anything that is just QQ'ing because your butt hurt. I don't post or QQ on the forums. So if you guys could at least give this a thought that would be much appreciated! Edit: Also its not like its forced on to you. If you don't want to respec then obviously you don't have to. I really only need one point to shoot down respecs.
1. They Break The Skill System entirely. Why play for that new Weapon when I can Just respec into it, whenever I need it?
The Skill system is designed, as to elongate the Games Life-span. You play to get into that new gear, and then get farther into that gear, and eventually max out that Skill set, over a long period of time. If you can just respect into whatever the hell you want in a moments notice, not only does it make the issue of FOTM, extremely exaggerated, as then everybody would just respect into the FOTM OPedness.
It also would worsen the New Player experience, as they play the game, and leave the academy with 750,000 SPs at the most, and play against players that can respect into Proto Suits, and Proto weapons on a whim, while the new guy is stuck with STD gear. Just cause you can shift the Points about doesn't make the SP system any less brutal to the uninitiated.
Then, if you allow them for ISK, then you basically Make this a Money Pit that CCP is making out of the Goodness of their Hearts.
The Highly Specialized players would be devalued, since you could just grab an Assault player, and tell them to Respec into AV, or into Snipers. Niches would be worthless, since you would Sacrifice anything to play in one, since you could respect to anything.
And, since the main drawing point of DUST is that your Skills have consequences, it basically Breaks the selling point of the Game.
tl;dr, Respecs break the Skill system, and therefore break one of the few remaining selling points of DUST, which therefore, basically Breaks DUST, and its compatriot Game. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5784
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:02:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:people are always complaining that respecs would ruin this game and people would just put points into the fotm. This is not eve and it never will be you are playing a fps game and players that come from fps games do no not normally wait months to unlock one piece of gear. If you want this game to thrive then allow respecs, people will be able to jump from fitting to fitting at whatever cost you come up with. I personally would stick with what I have, maybe tweak a few things. Stop being such stubborn old, bandwagon farts and pressure ccp for respecs or this game will slowly fall apart
It wouldn't actually change the battlefield at all, aside from making people more apt to play.
People just can't admit that they don't trust CCPs ability to introduce reasonable balance, as "FoTM" is basically the only argument against respecs. Then there's the "well EVE does it", well, EVE is a mostly complete game, DUST is still in its early Beta stages right now.
Also lmao at all these people who assume a respec option / system would be available all the time at a moments notice. Cooldown much? |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles
210
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:people are always complaining that respecs would ruin this game and people would just put points into the fotm. This is not eve and it never will be you are playing a fps game and players that come from fps games do no not normally wait months to unlock one piece of gear. If you want this game to thrive then allow respecs, people will be able to jump from fitting to fitting at whatever cost you come up with. I personally would stick with what I have, maybe tweak a few things. Stop being such stubborn old, bandwagon farts and pressure ccp for respecs or this game will slowly fall apart
It wouldn't actually change the battlefield at all, aside from making people more apt to play. People just can't admit that they don't trust CCPs ability to introduce reasonable balance, as "FoTM" is basically the only argument against respecs. Then there's the "well EVE does it", well, EVE is a mostly complete game, DUST is still in its early Beta stages right now. Also lmao at all these people who assume a respec option / system would be available all the time at a moments notice. Cooldown much?
exactly, im tired of hearing fotm and how respecs would make it so people keep swapping over. Well think about it, its flavor of the month, if respecs had an aur price tag dust would make lots of money, and all you wieners could laugh at people spending aur, you could all cry pay to win and feel better then others. everybody wins |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
664
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:09:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:people are always complaining that respecs would ruin this game and people would just put points into the fotm. This is not eve and it never will be you are playing a fps game and players that come from fps games do no not normally wait months to unlock one piece of gear. If you want this game to thrive then allow respecs, people will be able to jump from fitting to fitting at whatever cost you come up with. I personally would stick with what I have, maybe tweak a few things. Stop being such stubborn old, bandwagon farts and pressure ccp for respecs or this game will slowly fall apart
It wouldn't actually change the battlefield at all, aside from making people more apt to play. People just can't admit that they don't trust CCPs ability to introduce reasonable balance, as "FoTM" is basically the only argument against respecs. Then there's the "well EVE does it", well, EVE is a mostly complete game, DUST is still in its early Beta stages right now. Also lmao at all these people who assume a respec option / system would be available all the time at a moments notice. Cooldown much? exactly, im tired of hearing fotm and how respecs would make it so people keep swapping over. Well think about it, its flavor of the month, if respecs had an aur price tag dust would make lots of money, and all you wieners could laugh at people spending aur, you could all cry pay to win and feel better then others. everybody wins If you give it an Aurum price Tag, then it IS P2W.
You just pay Money to just skill into whatever gun you desire. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5786
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:15:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:If you give it an Aurum price Tag, then it IS P2W.
You just pay Money to just skill into whatever gun you desire. While I'm against any kind of AUR skill reversal system, since it's a fundamental part of the game and retaining players, why would this be so bad?
They can only play what they skill into. You don't get more SP from a respec, you just get to change where it goes. You still have to dump in all that time to get the SP in the first place.
I still laugh at how people just accept sitting on SP for months on end "just in case" to be not only better, but more enjoyable.
It's just.... |
NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
340
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:23:00 -
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Bottom Line:
- Respec takes the Risk away... Ruins the purpose of risk vs Reward
- Even though it would allow people to switch items to FOTM or actually be useful, people should learn to Earn it.
- CCP should give more info on items so that people can choose and skill into items properly. Not just change stats when people cry over something |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
398
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:25:00 -
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People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5786
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:26:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them |
NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
340
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will.
People who can't use anything properly would always look for something or the other. ^^^ |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
117
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols.
Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO?
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
546
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:40:00 -
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I've been running Gal Logi with a MD since Uprising 1.0. If someone who was a Cal Logi with an AR thinks it is unfair that they can't have my setup instantly, please know I ran this fit with broken armor and explosions for 2 months, even after the second respec. I would have liked to try the CalLogi Tac AR setup, but I stuck with something I enjoyed, even if it was at a disadvantage. Pick a suit class you enjoy, and if you're afraid of stat changes invest in core skills.
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StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
367
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:43:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO? And here you are the person that wants this to be AR 514. I skilled into AR just because I know for a fact that it will never get nerfed and in fact if anything it might just get a buff in the future.
I am just bored out of my mind with it now and this game just sucks to much for me to play any more to skill into anything else.
CCP should give us respec package deals, $5 a respec or 5 for $20. I guarantee that they would make $, maybe even enough to hire a new DEV team to fix the broke boring game. |
Seeth Mensch
Damage Core corp. The Superpowers
10
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:02:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:[quote=Obi Wan-Jacobi]I believe that respecs need to be an option in this game in order to survive. I think there are a few reasons why.
1. They Break The Skill System entirely. Why play for that new Weapon when I can Just respec into it, whenever I need it?
The Skill system is designed, as to elongate the Games Life-span. You play to get into that new gear, and then get farther into that gear, and eventually max out that Skill set, over a long period of time. If you can just respect into whatever the hell you want in a moments notice, not only does it make the issue of FOTM, extremely exaggerated, as then everybody would just respect into the FOTM OPedness.
tl;dr, Respecs break the Skill system, and therefore break one of the few remaining selling points of DUST, which therefore, basically Breaks DUST, and its compatriot Game.
Cooldowns. That seems to address your concern. |
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
170
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:03:00 -
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Why do people keep claiming that being able to move SP around would keep people playing? Does SP allocation really make up for the lack of content, broken mechanics, vehicle issues, terrible NPE and problematic infantry balance? Most of the people I've seem leave did so for one of those reasons. Also, with respecs removing the need to gain new SP to diversify wouldn't that just lead to fewer people playing as gaining more SP is now vastly less important as it's no longer the only way to diversify?
Also why should obtaining a second spec be instantaneous? The idea of the SP systems is targeted at selective progression, not a race to top level, thus a respec doesn't make sense as your build is supposed to be a function of what you chose to work towards, not a function of a simple SP count. Reallocation of SP pushes us towards the latter.
And why should FOTM chasers be helped? I know a lot of people claim it will help with balance, but I doubt it will considering how fast the flaylock nerf happened, and even if it does it will do so at the expense of those who don't FOTM chase. |
Seeth Mensch
Damage Core corp. The Superpowers
10
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:04:00 -
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CCP should give us respec package deals, $5 a respec or 5 for $20. I guarantee that they would make $, maybe even enough to hire a new DEV team to fix the broke boring game.[/quote]
Still want an ISK equivalent, I don't think you can reasonably call the game free if you charge for a simple service like that. Keep as an option, sure, but still...ISK. |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles
210
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will.
enough with this flavor of the month bs once they are done fixing aiming or what ever they do. Balancing will be come much better and then we can stop seeing fotm.
to the p2w guy -Respecs are less p2w than boosters or aur weaponry. Im not going to play a game come across a sniper and say " hey why don't I replace 14mill sp and become a sniper to kill that guy" Some people have jobs or are getting ready to go to university and cant spend every week capping out for months so they can get equipment they don't like. Respecs will keep people playing. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5788
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:17:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO? I was unaware that dropship specialist followed by AR Shield Fatty were "FoTM"
I avoided the AR for over a year, but didn't feel like dealing with the lolHMG at the time, though now I've been enjoying it more. I still use my AR and it makes my exile hit better I guess, but the playstyle no longer interests me. Instead I get to run militia stuff if I feel like saving money since my time with dropships left me broke, while I try skilling into scouts to have more fun but directly nerfing my performance in my primary spec, which I don't feel like playing for 2 weeks straight to get 3% damage boost.
It's a boring system, and the people who can't see that are either blind or sitting at the top of it. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3431
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:21:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO?
oh? Please explain to me how my situation, is me wanting the FoTM.
- 17 mil SP
- Proto weapons: HMG, AR, SR, FG, FLP, SMG, Nades, Shotgun
- Proto suits: Heavy basic, Gallente basic
- SP saved up: by now 1 mil
How do I need a respec to be up to the FoTM? Some people want a respec simply cuz they're tired of playing their current role / class. Heavies haven't got a single new item in this game since closed beta. What if i don't want to the class anymore simply cuz it's boring as **** having nothing new for over a year and a half?
But nah... EVERYBODY wants a respec for FoTM right? |
Obi Wan-Jacobi
Ancient Exiles
24
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:23:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO? oh? Please explain to me how my situation, is me wanting the FoTM. - 17 mil SP - Proto weapons: HMG, AR, SR, FG, FLP, SMG, Nades, Shotgun - Proto suits: Heavy basic, Gallente basic - SP saved up: by now 1 mil How do I need a respec to be up to the FoTM? Some people want a respec simply cuz they're tired of playing their current role / class. Heavies haven't got a single new item in this game since closed beta. What if i don't want to the class anymore simply cuz it's boring as **** having nothing new for over a year and a half? But nah... EVERYBODY wants a respec for FoTM right? Sucks that only a few people like us on this game :/
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
170
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:24:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. enough with this flavor of the month bs once they are done fixing aiming or what ever they do. Balancing will be come much better and then we can stop seeing fotm. to the p2w guy -Respecs are less p2w than boosters or aur weaponry. Im not going to play a game come across a sniper and say " hey why don't I replace 14mill sp and become a sniper to kill that guy" Some people have jobs or are getting ready to go to university and cant spend every week capping out for months so they can get equipment they don't like. Respecs will keep people playing. No, if this is really such an issue we need to get rid of the skill system and be done with it. It's completely pointless and self defeating for a system based around specializations to have a means to just opt out at will. Also the "I have personal commitments" reasoning is played out. Unfortunately any and all long term skill plans will conflict with this unless, as the op proposes, we negate the point of the system.
Lets just go with a COD-like level system and be done with it. Skills are pointless when easily overridden. |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles
210
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:27:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO? oh? Please explain to me how my situation, is me wanting the FoTM. - 17 mil SP - Proto weapons: HMG, AR, SR, FG, FLP, SMG, Nades, Shotgun - Proto suits: Heavy basic, Gallente basic - SP saved up: by now 1 mil How do I need a respec to be up to the FoTM? Some people want a respec simply cuz they're tired of playing their current role / class. Heavies haven't got a single new item in this game since closed beta. What if i don't want to the class anymore simply cuz it's boring as **** having nothing new for over a year and a half? But nah... EVERYBODY wants a respec for FoTM right?
im in the same boat only I have every vehicle type, would be nice to try some new stuff. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3432
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:33:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. enough with this flavor of the month bs once they are done fixing aiming or what ever they do. Balancing will be come much better and then we can stop seeing fotm. to the p2w guy -Respecs are less p2w than boosters or aur weaponry. Im not going to play a game come across a sniper and say " hey why don't I replace 14mill sp and become a sniper to kill that guy" Some people have jobs or are getting ready to go to university and cant spend every week capping out for months so they can get equipment they don't like. Respecs will keep people playing. No, if this is really such an issue we need to get rid of the skill system and be done with it. It's completely pointless and self defeating for a system based around specializations to have a means to just opt out at will. Also the "I have personal commitments" reasoning is played out. Unfortunately any and all long term progression systems will conflict with this unless, as the op proposes, we negate the point of the system. Lets just go with a COD-like level system and be done with it. Skills are pointless when easily overridden.
oh yea cuz paying money for a respec once every couple months is totally unreasonable |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
171
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:37:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:People want to be able to skill into the FOTM at will. People get bored of sitting on skills that are no longer relevant to them And here it is. You (the people that want respecs) skilled into FOTM setups, they got nerfed, and now you're regretful that you put all your eggs in Flaylock pistols. Well, too bad. Skill into new things that you want to play, or continue using the Flaylock pistol (or whatever is your FOTM-that-got-nerfed) and be happy you skilled into it, since IT WAS THE PLAYSTYLE YOU ENJOYED, OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT YOUR SP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NO? oh? Please explain to me how my situation, is me wanting the FoTM. - 17 mil SP - Proto weapons: HMG, AR, SR, FG, FLP, SMG, Nades, Shotgun - Proto suits: Heavy basic, Gallente basic - SP saved up: by now 1 mil How do I need a respec to be up to the FoTM? Some people want a respec simply cuz they're tired of playing their current role / class. Heavies haven't got a single new item in this game since closed beta. What if i don't want to the class anymore simply cuz it's boring as **** having nothing new for over a year and a half? But nah... EVERYBODY wants a respec for FoTM right? im in the same boat only I have every vehicle type, would be nice to try some new stuff. With 1m SP you should easily be able to try other things, especially since having high SP counts likely means you don't have to worry about much by way of core skills and can go about fully dedicated to expanding your arsenal. The only reason your situation is problematic is if you have the impression that proto gear/suits are needed just for trying something new, refuse to run gear below proto, or only play PC matches which necessitate proto. I don't see any of these being a very compelling justification for a respec. |
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