I like this idea but feel like it needs a counter. Any item that we can deploy needs to be able to be destroyed. A RE blast should be required, or multiple direct missile hits.

Deployable cover would be great. A shield would make more sense to me.

Deployable cover would be great. A shield would make more sense to me.

CCP is working on this.

@OP: Someone suggested the ability to deploy tank traps (like the ones already on certain maps) that were destructible. Wouldn't make much of a immediate cover but would do the trick for stopping vehicles. Especially if you throw some proxy mines behind them.
Your idea for this "Dragons Teeth" isn't half bad. Would be a nice infantry tool to use and AV could take advantage of it by hiding behind it in-between swarms (tankers might get p*ssed though )

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when is a bad tanker not p*ssed. good tankers don't get p*ssed lol.

I want these!!!!!! It made me think of a sort of "riot shield type weapon" it would be a heavy weapon that has 1500 hp (numbers can be reworked this is just an idea). Basically only a heavy can use it, and it occupies a weapon slot. This shield could be repaired by an armour repper (once it runs out of hp, it becomes no longer usable) it would be useful in groups of 2 or 3, one guy carries the shield and blocks fire, while the other people shoot from behind it (or if a logi is with them, heals the shield). It would be a great asset in CQC.

once again not a shield, read the op.

if you want to make a shield post then do so somewhere else plz, lets stay on topic

What if a more advanced version of these "Dragon's Teeth" had like, spikes or something that do more damage to vehicles that touch it. idk

Personally I think that it's a good idea, but...

The portable shield is coming and will be used as cover.

Furthermore, this slowing down of vehicles will be the job of deployable web devices, the likes of which are seen in EVE. I foresee a nanohive-like bubble on the ground that simply snags vehicles like the giant cables you see on aircraft carriers to catch and slow down landing planes.

dragons teeth are anything which is deployted in a fixed way with the sole purpose to abstruct enemy vehicle movement. the first ones looked like a row of teeth on the ground hence the name i believe and modern versions are a bit different. there are lots of different types

i believe this to be partially correct, in the concept of dragons teeth and the description of the first ones, but dragons teeth, as far as i know are solely the large pyramid shaped cement and rebar slabs. They are usually deployed in large number at irregular intervals to make the passage of tanks and heavily armored vehicles far more difficult if not impossible

just to verify our statements i went and asked wiki
Dragon's teeth (fortification)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dragons Teeth on GHQ Line in Britain in 2006
Dragon's teeth (German: Drachenz+ñhne, literally "dragon teeth") are square-pyramidal fortifications of reinforced concrete first used during the Second World War to impede the movement of tanks and mechanised infantry. The idea was to slow down and channel tanks into killing zones where they could easily be disposed of by anti-tank weapons.
They were employed extensively, particularly on the Siegfried Line.




I love the idea of making the terrain more difficult to traverse for vehicles, but with the way i see this item in particular i fear it will either be used more often as a ladder of sorts enabling players to reach areas previously unavailable without a derpship, or to block staircases so infantry cant get into an area thereby creating a forced choke point or making it impossible to get into a building or objective as it would likely be gaurded by another player upon high ground making it harder to destroy

I love the idea of making the terrain more difficult to traverse for vehicles, but with the way i see this item in particular i fear it will either be used more often as a ladder of sorts enabling players to reach areas previously unavailable without a derpship, or to block staircases so infantry cant get into an area thereby creating a forced choke point or making it impossible to get into a building or objective as it would likely be gaurded by another player upon high ground making it harder to destroy

As I understand that you point out to LAVs (Killer Taxis) on choke points: Aren-¦t remote explosives and proximity explosives/mines suitable "barriers"? Construction is an interesting idea, though I see the game too fast paced. I do not want to stick around at any place for a longer time (think Orbitals). You could also think about construction vs deployment as in Domination or Ambush (OMS?) where the stuff is deployed during battle. You could request that stuff from your battlefield commander (a role that is still not available though) and point out where you need them.

you can't see remote explosives or proxy mines so they offer no detarance. as for being too fast paced, i don't think that makes a difference. people will always be trying to take over different points. sometimes they just spam vehicles or tanks to overwhelm them. being able to fortify against vehicles even for a short time would balance out defense and make it a bit more viable when the enemy is vehicle heavy. not everyone is KDR mad and decided to defend instead. buying time to send help back to a point could only be beneficial to all, more kills all around as positions are harder to take and require tactics rather than overwhelming force.

Hmm now that I think about it, where would this item go in the skill tree?

Upgrades>Core>Engineering>Dragon?

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actually i was thinking about this just a few hours ago and i would place these as an off chute of nano hives. it would require nano circuitry and then nano fabrication skills

so something along the lines of

nano circuitry 3 as prerequisite
nano fabrication 1 (basic)
nano fabrication 3 (advanced)
nano fabrication 5 (proto)

this or just have them available at the same level as nano hives and needle are on the nano circuitry skill.

if there was ever a time we needed this device....its now

dragons teeth - these are self assembling devices which once deployed (3B /4A /6P) assemble themselves into 2m square immovable objects. the purpose is to provide ways of defending positions from vehicles by denying them access unless they destroy the blocks with all methods at their disposal except swarms as they cant lock them.

it should only be deployable on flat ground same as any other deployable device.

damage would be equal both ways for impact damage from vehicles. if your in a lav you can ram it to destroy it but sustain damage yourself. essentially you could weaken a path through from a distance and while people are taking cover you could ram your lav through the weakened dragons teeth or just chain lav's. the first ones might blow but take the dragons teeth with them allowing the others to break through.

there should be 2 different types.

preemptive dragons teeth - high hp, take longer to construct, cpu/pg intensive looks like a block of concrete, offers complete LOS cover. on deployment the device launches a nano swarm which gathers resources from the surrounding area to form a solid block which is used to provided an obstruction to vehicles over a long duration. these are generally used to reinforce positions which are vulnerable to fast vehicle attack. these can take sustained small arms fire but are susceptible to most heavy weapon damage

reactive dragons teeth - low hp, short construction time, less cpu/pq intensive, offers limited cover as smaller than the other type and looks like a steel caltrop. on deployment the device launches a nano swarm which gathers resources from the surrounding area to form a lightweight metal caltrop which provides limited obstruction to vehicles. these are designed to be deployed as and when necessary on a situational basis such as trapping vehicle retreat routes etc. these are susceptible to most forms of damage

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keep on topic, this is not a deployable shield

shortcut to my replies and advancements on the idea:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191041#post1191041
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191126#post1191126
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1192075#post1192075

Then why not turrets ? (Deployable equipements for Logistics.)
Use the small turrets damage cut by half.
AI of big turrets.
High PG/CPU
Small Shield
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090926024136/borderlands/images/2/25/Crimson_Lance.jpg
http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111116002137/borderlands/images/1/11/Turret_S02.png
The shield can be down with flux grenades or several shots from light weapons.

still want

Wow you even use your Nanite injector on forum threads ... you are a true logibro lol.

P.S: yea, still a good idea.

as long as you have to sit their and construct (basicaly the hacking animation)
and no picking up it
limited ammo even if its a lot
has shields and armor along with self regen of both

id probably let assault swarm launchers lock them so as to be able to help clear them out and offer up a secondary role to a pretty much useless item

A futuristic tank trap... Love it you know some had mines in ten in WW2 that could be a variant type.

Dragons teeth are a bit WW2 era. Did you know that dragons teeth and other normal tank traps are pretty much useless against modern tanks (as they just roll over them or crush them).

That said, there is a perfectly viable New Eden alternative: the webifier.

Eve pilots use it all the time to arrest movement of starships.

I propose a deployable piece of equipment called something like "webifier field generator". It deploys like an RE or drop uplink, but has a sustained area of effect that reduces the movement speed of any vehicle going through it by a suitable percentage.

This would also mean that devs won't need to create any new 3d models (as for the dragons teeth), but could implement it quite quickly.

i was a tank driver for 9 years. i tell you now a tank trap would stop me dead. these days you send engineers in to blow up a path through. you certainly dont drive over(crush) them. tanks are easily stopped by the simplest of things

Tank traps as in pieces of steel girders welded together (common during ww2). There are different kinds of tank traps of course but those were the ones I was talking about. Some tanks just push them out of the way.

What type of tank did you drive? A friend of mine was in armour when he served, and apparently those tank traps and dragons teeth don't hold up against Swedish modified Leopard 2's (granted they have souped up engines and thicker armor than the normal Leopard 2's that the Germans exported, which might explain it)