That was my thinking. I used to run the M1s, and plenty of times I wish I had them. For me, being able to defend myself against LAVs was more valuable though.

I wouldn't even mind having to be soley and AV player, except that you're so handicapped against infantry then what's it matter if they kill you or a tank kills you. Much like dual tanking, i.e. shields and armor, you lose something when you try to do both. You are master of neither.

vehicle players are forced to give up their fighting outside of vehicles in order to pilot them, why should you be an acception?

How about tankers shouldn't be punished because match making sucks and sagaris and suryas were being put against teams of mlt av and going 50:0 in chromosome.


Fix matchmaking. Buff tanks. Boom. problem solved.

How does it feel when your tank get killed by a Freedom Mass Driver?

How does it feel when your tank get killed by a Freedom Mass Driver?

I can see tanks getting a buff only if they require a full crew to operate. At least driver and main gunner should be separate.

I can see tanks getting a buff only if they require a full crew to operate. At least driver and main gunner should be separate.

That's not going to happen. Might be a specific tank that gets that... but not all tanks.

I can see tanks getting a buff only if they require a full crew to operate. At least driver and main gunner should be separate.

then tanks would no longer be used because nobody would skill into only driving the damn thing... iv told many people this with my Void Echo profile.

I understand not wanting to depend on others. I'm horrible at the social aspect and tend to run lone wolf myself. But, there needs to be some form of drawback other than ISK because at some point ISK will be irrelevant.

An LAV (once their bumpers are fixed) require a driver and a gunner. An Assault Dropship is a decent balance because the main gun is small. People jump into AV to take out tanks because they know that one person in a tank can go 40/0 unless they are stopped. Maybe give the tank driver a small gun?

How would you balance tanks so they aren't one man killing machines but also have increased survivability?

I understand not wanting to depend on others. I'm horrible at the social aspect and tend to run lone wolf myself. But, there needs to be some form of drawback other than ISK because at some point ISK will be irrelevant.

An LAV (once their bumpers are fixed) require a driver and a gunner. An Assault Dropship is a decent balance because the main gun is small. People jump into AV to take out tanks because they know that one person in a tank can go 40/0 unless they are stopped. Maybe give the tank driver a small gun?

How would you balance tanks so they aren't one man killing machines but also have increased survivability?

It's like being in a Gallente basic standard frame and getting hit by a freedom mass driver...except it costs a lot more 2,000,000 instead of 8,000.

where are these magical people going 40/0 against a good team? any time you see that, it's an accademy match, or a maxed out tank against clones fresh out of the academy.

against any good team, you're luck to get above 10

I understand not wanting to depend on others. I'm horrible at the social aspect and tend to run lone wolf myself. But, there needs to be some form of drawback other than ISK because at some point ISK will be irrelevant.

An LAV (once their bumpers are fixed) require a driver and a gunner. An Assault Dropship is a decent balance because the main gun is small. People jump into AV to take out tanks because they know that one person in a tank can go 40/0 unless they are stopped. Maybe give the tank driver a small gun?

How would you balance tanks so they aren't one man killing machines but also have increased survivability?

I'll watch the matches more closely to see how the tankers are doing. Running solo I tend to get placed with the side against the good teams and we get stomped. Maybe I'm mistaking the guys at the top for the tankers and they are not. But, I've been in a fair number of matches lately where there are two blaster tanks running the field together and just dominating. My advanced swarm does little to scare them off.

I do feel for you guys and your expensive gear. Hopefully Wolfman and Remnant have a plan for 1.5 to fix things.

yes you are mistaking the ones at the top of leaderboards, iv only gotten 20/0 one time since uprising began and the only time il go over 20/0 is when im put against academy graduates and im a squad with my friends. other than that, its an extreme rarity to go over 10/0 solo with a tank

Tank drivers sacrifice the ability to fight with an AR in order to pilot tanks, what else do you want, do you want us not only to not be able to fight outside, do you want us to be even more useless outside of tanks?

we get immense power from driving tanks we all know that, BUT in order for us to get that power, WE GIVE UP OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT OUTSIDE VEHICLES.

Until Pilot Dropsuits come out, that is a useless and pointless argument. I haven't got any points in destroyers, so my Battlecruisers should be more powerful. Is that really your argument? Your Dropsuit is completely unrelated to your vehicle piloting ability. If you decided to not get any footsoldier skills, or pilot with a shitfit suit, it is your own fault for overspecializing. The Titan pilots all know how to fly a decent frigate. And also, they don't bring their Titan into every little fight

Tank drivers sacrifice the ability to fight with an AR in order to pilot tanks, what else do you want, do you want us not only to not be able to fight outside, do you want us to be even more useless outside of tanks?

we get immense power from driving tanks we all know that, BUT in order for us to get that power, WE GIVE UP OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT OUTSIDE VEHICLES.

lol, really... you're complaining about not being able to fight outside of the tank? Well how the hell do you think AVers feel when we have to gimp ourselves against other infantry just to get a shot at taking out annoying vehicles terrorizing the team?

lol, really... you're complaining about not being able to fight outside of the tank? Well how the hell do you think AVers feel when we have to gimp ourselves against other infantry just to get a shot at taking out annoying vehicles terrorizing the team?

The only AV class that is somewhat effective against infantry while still having a lot of AV brute-force, is the heavy with a forge.

Otherwise:

Medium suit that has swarms for main, a sidearm, and AV nades = Going to get owned most of the time if they run across other infantry players. Or even worse, a logi with no sidearm decides to use swarms because nobody else on the team is doing AV. At that point their ONLY defense is locus nades, which means they have to dump off some AV so they arent completely helpless against infantry.


This, IMO, is one of the biggest annoyances with vehicles in general. I play this game to shoot infantry, it is a FPS after all. And I find it extremely annoying that I have to switch to AV gear just because some tanker, dropship, or LLAV decides to terrorize my team. Add insult to injury when those vehicle players have decent ground-pounders, making the AVers life a nightmare while the vehicles roam free and effortlessly slaughter ground troops who are not equipped with any decent AV.

This also means that each and every infantry player has to cross-train and waste SP into AV, otherwise they just have to take all the vehicle abuse, which is extremely frustrating.

You just want AV to do nothing to you

Or being anything else and being hit by an AR.
Or a dropship getting slammed by an RDV.
Or a charge sniper that can actually aim.
Basically every less than 1 second kill, yaknow?