I would've went for M1 locus grenade. MD is a sore subject...

what it feels like to face a tank in militia gear.....

it feels like facing a tank in militia gear except it costs players and they quit, the smart ones get proto av and become the great equalizers.

It's like being in a Gallente basic standard frame and getting hit by a freedom mass driver...except it costs a lot more 2,000,000 instead of 8,000.

It's like being in a Gallente basic standard frame and getting hit by a freedom mass driver...except it costs a lot more 2,000,000 instead of 8,000.

Grenades are annoying. I don't like grenades of any kind.

Grenades are annoying. I don't like grenades of any kind.

I'm sorry, but you'll get no sympathy from me. Tanks take one man to use, so if one man in vastly greater metalevel, vastly multi-role crippling weaponry can kick your sorry tailpipe then good on them. Nothing against the tanks, but they have to gice something up to get something.

I'm sorry, but you'll get no sympathy from me. Tanks take one man to use, so if one man in vastly greater metalevel, vastly multi-role crippling weaponry can kick your sorry tailpipe then good on them. Nothing against the tanks, but they have to gice something up to get something.

I jus let my pal, Djin Marauder try out my awsume missile tank and he lost it within 6 seconds by a single forgegun

we can't take objectives, we're slow to start moving, there are weapons that are literally designed ONLY with taking us out in mind, grenades(which are borderline invisible) are our greatest threat, the crippling expense of fielding even a half-decent fitting.

what exactly do we get? more HP, and the biggest target on our backs on the field.

.... tanks are poop and everyone knows it. You are insaine, going tank is a handicap bcuz it only takes one person to kill you in less than 8 seconds

.... tanks are poop and everyone knows it. You are insaine, going tank is a handicap bcuz it only takes one person to kill you in less than 8 seconds

...And yet they keep running 20+/0 every match, one-shotting stuff with their Infinity Ammo guns.

Here's the thing.

All it takes to solo a tank is a 30k suit and a brain. Oops, there goes more than fifty times my suit's value in tank.

Infantry have nothing like that. Not at the high end of their game. Well, except for forges and remotes. But hey, they're AV weapons, so w/e.

See, my tank is valued at approximately two hours of my life.
Your protosuit is no more than fifteen minutes. And the skills you use to GET that protosuit make it easier for you to earn ISK in cheap gear.

Here's the thing.

All it takes to solo a tank is a 30k suit and a brain. Oops, there goes more than fifty times my suit's value in tank.

Infantry have nothing like that. Not at the high end of their game. Well, except for forges and remotes. But hey, they're AV weapons, so w/e.

See, my tank is valued at approximately two hours of my life.
Your protosuit is no more than fifteen minutes. And the skills you use to GET that protosuit make it easier for you to earn ISK in cheap gear.

Your protosuit is no more than fifteen minutes. And the skills you use to GET that protosuit make it easier for you to earn ISK in cheap gear.

It's funny how people without a single SP into Tanks can talk crap about them.

You do realize that for the three AV weapons, there are numerous Anti Personnel weapons? That Grenades are a threat to everyone, especially someone in Standard level attire? That your 'slow' is a scout's fast? That if we made cost of fitting a viable whine, we'd need to make the Logi's head and shoulders above everyone in everything and like it?

Tanks need to give up something to get something, and that means a tangible inmatch asset, not prefight fitting costs. You cannot have a SINGLE player suddenly gain immense power with no losses beyond 'can't cap no more'. No other vehicle can be manned effectively with one single player, and as such are balanced against being a one man force multiplier. A LAV or Dropship both need players to ferry around the map or they aren't doing their job, and both need other players aside from the pilot to operate their weapons systems, and you don't see LAV players cry for turret control. Tanks already HAVE something, they can be piloted and gunned from the same seat. THAT is your bonus. Don't like it? Ask to trade it in for something else and stop whining for more.