It's like being in a Gallente basic standard frame and getting hit by a freedom mass driver...except it costs a lot more 2,000,000 instead of 8,000.

what it feels like to face a tank in militia gear.....

it feels like facing a tank in militia gear except it costs players and they quit, the smart ones get proto av and become the great equalizers.

I jus let my pal, Djin Marauder try out my awsume missile tank and he lost it within 6 seconds by a single forgegun

I'm sorry, but you'll get no sympathy from me. Tanks take one man to use, so if one man in vastly greater metalevel, vastly multi-role crippling weaponry can kick your sorry tailpipe then good on them. Nothing against the tanks, but they have to gice something up to get something.

Lost 2 proto compressed rails yesterday :S

...And yet they keep running 20+/0 every match, one-shotting stuff with their Infinity Ammo guns, but hey i should be nerfed to carry less AV nades....

However, it was your choice to be a tank driver, it was you choice to call that tank in, it was your choice to drive that tank where it was killable and afterwards you blame others.

It's also funny to see how people who claim to have 10m+ SP into tanks cry about all those big bad AV guys who destroy them with their little Swarm Launchers.

what it feels like to face a tank in militia gear.....

it feels like facing a tank in militia gear except it costs players and they quit, the smart ones get proto av and become the great equalizers.

It's also funny to see how people who claim to have 10m+ SP into tanks cry about all those big bad AV guys who destroy them with their little Swarm Launchers.

Ah, another Zero that gets it :3

Tanks have many blessings they take as granted, such as the Infinity Ammo and the One Man Piloting, that shouldn't be considered as such.

Bads in this thread.

Swarms/Forges rinse tanks, the reason a Tank can go a couple of games without losing it is because Matchmaking puts them against **** players. I regularly run a proto forge against vehicles when I'm broke and can't bring in tanks, yesterday in a Skirmish I held three tanks on their redline, just me solo. When two other Seraphim turned up they were done. (3v3).

A proto swarm can deal massive amounts of damage, and can follow you around buildings, don't say they do not. I drive my LAV and even with its speed, it'll follow me around a corner.

The price of a tank is far too excessive, you say they need to be costly? I say **** you. I get in my LLAV and drive over you for 200k, my highest kill count is through using LLAVs, not tanks.

I'm not bringing tanks in anymore until 1.5 unless we're stomping and I just want to go "lolololnoav", but till 1.5 this game is **** for vehicles and the masses of scrubs that complain about Tanks just can't think strategically on how to combat them.

Just out of curiosity:what will all of you do when Wolf man buffs tanks and nerfs Av?

I'm sorry, but you'll get no sympathy from me. Tanks take one man to use, so if one man in vastly greater metalevel, vastly multi-role crippling weaponry can kick your sorry tailpipe then good on them. Nothing against the tanks, but they have to gice something up to get something.

Meta level VS at least 2 times the SP input and 4-8 times the isk... Yep should be solo'd. -_-

It takes way more SP and ISK train into, then to buy and fit a Tornado than it does to get into a Rifter, but in a straight-up fight the Rifter will win almost every time, unless the Tornado takes special precautions, because it's too fast for the Large guns to target it. Do people ***** about how broken that is, or do they take their humbling for being a dumbass?

It's like being in a Gallente basic standard frame and getting hit by a freedom mass driver...except it costs a lot more 2,000,000 instead of 8,000.

Thats how it should feel after all it is Black demon av. What did you expect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgj3nZWtOfA this is how all you tank drivers act when you see av . The ending however is what happens for underestimating us

You do realize that for the three AV weapons, there are numerous Anti Personnel weapons? That Grenades are a threat to everyone, especially someone in Standard level attire? That your 'slow' is a scout's fast? That if we made cost of fitting a viable whine, we'd need to make the Logi's head and shoulders above everyone in everything and like it?

Tanks need to give up something to get something, and that means a tangible inmatch asset, not prefight fitting costs. You cannot have a SINGLE player suddenly gain immense power with no losses beyond 'can't cap no more'. No other vehicle can be manned effectively with one single player, and as such are balanced against being a one man force multiplier. A LAV or Dropship both need players to ferry around the map or they aren't doing their job, and both need other players aside from the pilot to operate their weapons systems, and you don't see LAV players cry for turret control. Tanks already HAVE something, they can be piloted and gunned from the same seat. THAT is your bonus. Don't like it? Ask to trade it in for something else and stop whining for more.

Right now I only AV when its convenient. (Lai Dai AVs instead of infantry nades). LAVs trying to run me over or a tank pinning me down in a complex.

If tanks are buffed and AV is nerfed I'll have to go dedicated AV or maybe start dumping points into tanks for anti-tank combat. I really don't want to join the ranks of the tanker class, but without a corp with dedicated AV squads, like many have suggested should be necessary, I'll have to find some way to stop the tanks. Otherwise I feel I can't be effective at anti infantry since, ARs from one side and tank shells from another is a lose lose situation.

In the end, I'll do what I always do when something is kicking my ass. Adapt...or die trying.

which is what is meant to be, if you want to kill us, then you should dedicate a good amount of your SP to kill us, we dedicated ALL of our SP, if you only dedicated a portion of your SP, the we need a respect and SP for tanking needs to be dropped down to 1/8 of what it is now.

I wouldn't mind a tank buff or a price of module decrease if it would allow the AV to stay near the same level. Tankers seem to fear the Lai Dais but I can never kill anything with 3 nades or less other than a mlt fit tank or a basic LAV. I'm really suprised AV nades that need to be tossed in close proximity to a tank seem to be more of an issue than forge guns with ******** range and damage and swarms.

Not me. Unless it's a PC battle, I recall the second something does more than 2000 damage and it isn't a rail gun. I refuse to let avaassholes make money off of my death.

They ... give ... up ... anti-infantry .... grenades? Which ... are ... good?