Lolvehicle players thinking swarms magically swerve around obstacles to hit them

Not quite, they do however do Magic 180s with pith any loss of speed. They should fly properly at least.

LolHAVscrubs whining about AV again !

Come back when your HAV gets bonuses from occupants and you can't solo dominate an entire team.

When vehicles require more occupants to be effective, only then should it take more than one AV to defeat them.

they cant jump around when locking on or firing, they dont instantly lock on, they dont lock through cover..

Lolvehicle players thinking swarms magically swerve around obstacles to hit them

You've proved your ignorance with this post.

You've obviously never driven a HAV.

Now whenever you try to say anything else about vehicles, I'll just quote this post.

Ive been on both sides of swarms, you obviously havent if you dont know their flight patterns

They do swerve.

Do this, get locked by a Swarm, allow the Swarms to nearly make it to you, use a wall to obstruct their flight path, watch them do 90 Degree turns.

And by the way, driving that Sica/Soma that one time doesn't make you an expert in all things vehicle related.

Another one, a Swarm user is outside your draw range, you're now getting hit by invisible Swarms.

A Swarm Launcher looks like its just launched its payload, but in fact, the Swarms just hit you.

Make swarms only lock DS, make FG do 39% damage vs DS. CCP can do some sci-fi wizardry to make this canon, DS have a built in resistance to railguns somehow.

Bam. Forge Guns wreck everything on the ground, Swarms wreck everything in the sky.

They absolutely do not swerve you are just a poor driver and a fool if you expect to get away from them when they are right on top of you

The render distance is your only legitimate complaint and it affects everyone to varying degrees and definitely needs to be fixed

So about swarms and their ability to swerve around objects.

They don't necessarily swerve around objects, they currently track to the location you were at when they were fired, then they will adjust to where you are.

This works out to a situation like this: Tank is sitting behind a building, then pokes his turret out around the corner and starts firing. Swarm launcher sees the tank, locks on, and fires. Tank sees the swarms and pulls back, well behind the corner. The swarms track to the tank's original location when fired, at the corner, then do a 90 degree turn and track on the new location, behind the building.

I don't know if this is a functioning as designed or a bug with the swarm tracking, but that's how it seems like swarms can "swerve" around obstacles

FG would complain then tbh

Unless they did it so the farther the shot the less damage it does over distance so DS can survive alot better when they take to the skies

Its good Im giving you something to quote, some facts on how swarms actually work rather than tanker QQ will be a nice change in your posting habits

And I dont know how you fail to understand that the wall will protect you if you get behind it in time not "herp derp missiles are almost on me, better move 20 feet and whine"
You act as though the wall is directly between you and the swarm but it stops, turns right to the end of the wall, turns left and then turns left again to hit you

Use them and learn the flight patterns and youll find out how easy they are to dodge, now I realise something like proper positioning might be difficult for beta tankers used to parking next to stuff for easy mode kills but its really not that difficult

Come back with a proto tank, with proto turret, with proto mods and all 3 seats filled with 3 pilot suits to super max out the HAV effectivness

1 proto AV wont be able to solo it, it may take teamwork to beat it and more than 1 person

Hoepfully lolswarms get fixed, they dont go around corners/cover, they render, i am able to see him, they cant jump around when locking on or firing, they dont instantly lock on, they dont lock through cover

We will see who will be crying then when we have a level playing field

How can you dodge something that travels invisible and goes around your cover anyways? you cant its impossible to avoid when they consistantly fly around cover

I see ppl lock on through the cover they are using then point the SL up at the sky and still somehow maintain lock even tho they are not looking at the vehicle anymore and fire swarms which go over ther cover and still hit the vehicle

And in response to this, yes I hope a lot of things get fixed, like the sound bug that causes swarms locking tone to dissappear for entire battles, or when I lock on to a target that gets destroyed before I launch leaving no way to cancel lock, then after firing a phantom set of swarms fire in a straight line.

There are still plenty of bugs and balancing issues left all over this game, but the main sticking point between HAVs and AV is whether it should take more than 1 AV to take out a HAV. The answer is NO when the HAV is single occupied, it shouldn't take 2 of 1 team to counter 1 of the other at equivalent skill investments. And you can't counter that HAVs require more sp because they just don't, the weapon is not the only investment in AV, all the secondary skills count too.

How can you dodge something that travels invisible and goes around your cover anyways? you cant its impossible to avoid when they consistantly fly around cover

I see ppl lock on through the cover they are using then point the SL up at the sky and still somehow maintain lock even tho they are not looking at the vehicle anymore and fire swarms which go over ther cover and still hit the vehicle

Its good Im giving you something to quote, some facts on how swarms actually work rather than tanker QQ will be a nice change in your posting habits

And I dont know how you fail to understand that the wall will protect you if you get behind it in time not "herp derp missiles are almost on me, better move 20 feet and whine"
You act as though the wall is directly between you and the swarm but it stops, turns right to the end of the wall, turns left and then turns left again to hit you

Use them and learn the flight patterns and youll find out how easy they are to dodge, now I realise something like proper positioning might be difficult for beta tankers used to parking next to stuff for easy mode kills but its really not that difficult

Again render distance is your only valid complaint and is something I think everyone agrees should be fixed
As for locking on through cover its no way as consistent as you might think since you actually need to be acquiring a lock before they go behind cover to actually get it and you have a very small degree of leeway to bank a shot over or around cover

You say the swarm launcher takes no skill but those banking shots are skill shots friend, use it and see how much it takes to do it consistently without breaking lock and then laugh at thinking swarm launchers have crazy DPS when you find out they have a cool down after firing that stops you from acquiring lock on, reloading, switching weapons, even sprinting for a couple seconds