Do you realise how big your HAV is ... you only see down the turret ... just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they can't see part of your vehicle to lock on to.

And firing at a tangent to your target is intended ... once locked the missiles will hold lock for a short time allowing them to be fired on an intercept to a moving target or from behind cover after target is locked.

Takes no skill

I have a BPO SL lol and i was able to lock on through things, fire, bunny hop and fire, bunny hop and lock, instant locking it feels like, quick firing, easiest ******* thing i have ever done in the game

Then the missiles come into play, go around corners no target is safe

I'm on record defending the FG, but the swarms are the lowest of the low in any game recently for ease of use AV weapons. Bunny hopping while locking on needs to go. All that damage, so stupidly easy and long range. Even AV nades take mroe skill, and that says a lot.

I can have my tank in a ditch and i will still routinely see swarms being fired at me even tho they shouldnt be able to see the tank let alone lock on yet they do

vehicles espc the heavys should require some teamwork to take out

So let me get this right

You were jumping to maintain LOS to get a lock and then jumping again to get a better firing position but say changing up your play style to get the optimal performance out of your weapon was not a learned skill

This is where you lost all credibility to your whining

So first its "I cant see swarms being shot at me" but now its "I see the swarms and they shouldnt have been able to get me" even though you dont know what the enemy sees on his screen?

Man, tankers flip flop more than politicians in an election year

You want a lore excuse about how the computer in the launcher is doing the locking and since nothing is being fired yet its pretty easy to keep it pointed in one direction unlike a rifle spraying plasma and kicking against you?
And you do lose lock if you point away, you just have a couple seconds before it happens

Let me guess you wont be happy until everyone that can harm you has to stand perfectly still in the open for 5 minutes before taking a single shot so you have a chance to fight back right?

Why dont you explain why a tank should be an indestructible force on the battlefield and use a better argument than "herp derp iz tank and cost da moniez"

Did you know that the swarms flight pattern leads them to the bottom of the tank so even if you are above the tank theres a chance it will still hit the terrain

Do you know how I know this? Its because I use swarm launchers and have driven tanks
Oh no there goes you "Nuh uh you dont even know cause you dont drive it" defense
If its driven well even a ****** militia tank can be a massive fire support bonus to a team

You want a lore excuse about how the computer in the launcher is doing the locking and since nothing is being fired yet its pretty easy to keep it pointed in one direction unlike a rifle spraying plasma and kicking against you?
And you do lose lock if you point away, you just have a couple seconds before it happens

Let me guess you wont be happy until everyone that can harm you has to stand perfectly still in the open for 5 minutes before taking a single shot so you have a chance to fight back right?

Why dont you explain why a tank should be an indestructible force on the battlefield and use a better argument than "herp derp iz tank and cost da moniez"

Couple of seconds lol, thats enough to fire the missiles, it should lose lock you are not looking at the target simple as

Im nearly fine with FG, granted they do more damage than a vehicle mounted large railgun but at least they need to be aimed by someone which requires some skill at least instead of lol lockon/firenforget/missilesroundcorner/freewp

Did you know that the swarms flight pattern leads them to the bottom of the tank so even if you are above the tank theres a chance it will still hit the terrain

Do you know how I know this? Its because I use swarm launchers and have driven tanks
Oh no there goes you "Nuh uh you dont even know cause you dont drive it" defense
If its driven well even a ****** militia tank can be a massive fire support bonus to a team

If you are not looking at the target you will lose lock, if they are on your screen but not directly within the targeting square you have roughly two seconds before lock is lost
We all have a free AV fitting with a swarm so this is basic level stuff to learn about the weapon

Solaire those two seconds go by faster than you think especially under fire, and I have an alt skilled into tanks, not at proto level with everything but even then its easy mode as long as you stay aware of the situation
Oh no, there goes the fan favorite "You dont drive tanks you dont know" defense

And Pegasis explain exactly how even a properly piloted militia tank does not benefit the team if you are so sure that statement has no credibility
I mean surely you can back up you BS if you are such the authority on whats credible or are you talking out of your ass?

Its more about the fact that you think you have a right to comment on the situation of HAVs just because you have an MLT HAV. Not that MLT HAVs aren't effective.

You lose lock after a couple of seconds you said which is more than enough to spam the missiles when looking up, i think it could even be more the a couple of seconds with some of the angles ive seen

You should lose lock instantly the moment you are not looking at the target, once out of the square you lose lock none of this extra few seconds crutch to get the missiles away

What part of "I have skilled into HAVs on an alt and use more than militia HAVs with the default fittings" dont you understand
I know the cost issues you whine about, I know the survivability issues you whine about, I know the "waaah swarms hit us" you whine about all first hand and I know you are also blowing it way out of proportion and they are hardly issues if you have even a shred of situational awareness and dont run off on your own like a damn fool

Yes, spam a weapon that has a lock on time and a cool down time before you can start the lock on process again
But if you really want things to be more accurate why dont you ask for at least two people to operate a tank, a driver and a gunner, and if fairness is really what you want how about asking for HAVs to have an ammo count

You have so many advantages already in your favor but complain about bankshots which take some skill to pull off well due to the screwed up flight pattern and needing some LOS to get the initial lock which a person could be easily killed during if the tanker is any good or has any support

Taka knowing where common high spots people like to nest is situational awareness, commmunicating with your squad to better know whats on the field and where it might be is situational awareness, if you cant comprehend that then you are just a bad player
Especially if you have the idea that "durr hurr I see two of da swermz, dat means dat only one guy shot it"
Lots of people have skilled into various forms of AV and you know what? If a tank is wrecking **** on the field those people are going to bring that AV to bear and since certain spots have much better vantage points of the map than others AV will congregate there

Oh hey, knowing those places and their lanes of fire and blind spots? ******* situational awareness


Yeesh, and I thought guys in EON knew their **** about this game

Common high spots

You mean the entire ******* map

No its not situation awareness its ******* common sense that these easymode bastards are up ther anyways, its just waiting for the envitable invisible swarms to hit you into next year, just like expecting AV nades from 3 different directions when you roll past somewhere

Situation awareness is completely different, its when to stay or run, its when to activate x y or z, its down this road or go the other way, its when you are in the battle and you decide what to do ther and then and whats next, its when you are in a SITUATION and are AWARE of what is happening around you

Not guessing that a SL user will make his way to point d in about 10mins ******* time, thats called guessing something that mystic meg did and ******* failed every week at it

Explain how being in a battle (situation) and knowing that the enemy is most likely going to be in locations A B or C since they give the greatest view is not being aware of whats going on around you
Its not rocket science and if you cant figure that out then maybe a nice game of candyland is more your speed

Your talking about future engaments when player b climbs up to tower c at x time and decides to take you out

You cant ******* guess when they hit you, you know where they may hit you from but you dont know when because if you did then you are seeing into the ******* future and would be able to to completely determine the outcome of the match because you would know what excatly would happen but as far as i know no one can do that so your full of ****

God you're dumb
If you know where the person is going to attack from you can take measures to minimize the danger you face or hell even as a squaddie to plant a RE over there to handle it
Oh look at that, influencing the outcomes of a confrontation before it even happens just by being aware of where the enemy is likely to be
Its so easy I wonder why humans havent been doing that for millennia

Wait a minute, you mean they have?