So your proposal to nerf LAVs is to buff tanks even more.

Where can I get what you got? Cuz it must be really good stuff.

I agree on dropships.

The problem isn't scrub LAVs, it is the unkillable nature of LLAVs. I propose that all AV get a 200% damage buff against LLAVs, since they are supposed to be weak logistics healer vehicles.

They arent supposed to be weak, LLAVs are supposed to be sturdier than LAVs but right now CCP went a bit to far.

EDIT: I am not a LLAV driver, nor a murder taxi driver.

So by that logic, how come the logistics suits aren't sturdier versions of the standard suits?

So by that logic, how come the logistics suits aren't sturdier versions of the standard suits?

So your proposal to nerf LAVs is to buff tanks even more.

Where can I get what you got? Cuz it must be really good stuff.

I agree on dropships.

The problem isn't scrub LAVs, it is the unkillable nature of LLAVs. I propose that all AV get a 200% damage buff against LLAVs, since they are supposed to be weak logistics healer vehicles.

Because assaults would get butthurt. They already are now since logis get more slots at the cost of a sidearm and base stats.

-AV weapons are GOOD except for prox mines. What makes LAV's un-killable is:
1-You CANT score a 1HKO shot on any of them, not even with a Proto Breach FG.
2-They are way too fast and can out run swarms and take cover from Forge guns pretty fast, making them un-killable.

lie, LAVs can be OHK. advanced beach forge 2300~
MLT LAVs have about 1k HP base. there is no way for them to have over 1800 eHP.

lie, LAVs can be OHK. advanced beach forge 2300~
MLT LAVs have about 1k HP base. there is no way for them to have over 1800 eHP.

I was talking about Logi LAV's the ones that are un kill-able.

Im not a liar , you are just not paying attention to the conversation.

Regardless of what type of LAV is being used I'd like it to take damage relative to my mass when it hits me. F=ma after all. Hitting a heavy should be like crashing a car into a large oak tree, a med. frame like hitting an elk, and a light frame should be like hitting a person. All of these would cause damage to the vehicle in question but to varying extents depending on the size of the frame. To make it more "fun" have armor plates act as a mass modifier, so armor tanked suits would do more damage to LAV's who hit them in proportion to the amount of armor they have added to the suit.

I must say I like the buffing of the RE idea as well but I have a small problem with it, namely that LLAV are often fast enough that they can drive over RE and have them explode behind the vehicle thus doing 0 damage.

On the issue of LLVs, the Limbus is OK, They are sturdier, but pretty much killable. It's the Charybdis that is practically unkillable. Shields are pretty much impervious to most AV, and it has not enough PG to do its job.

If the Skill bonus was changed from damage resistance to CPU for Limbus and PG for Charybdis, the Charybdis shields were slightly nerfed and WP was awarded from LLVroing (A.K.A. incentive to do it's job), the Murder Taxi would be a non-issue.

On REs/PMs, Just swap the damage values. 750 is enough to kill 90% of infantry.

On the issue of LLVs, the Limbus is OK, They are sturdier, but pretty much killable. It's the Charybdis that is practically unkillable. Shields are pretty much impervious to most AV, and it has not enough PG to do its job.

If the Skill bonus was changed from damage resistance to CPU for Limbus and PG for Charybdis, the Charybdis shields were slightly nerfed and WP was awarded from LLVroing (A.K.A. incentive to do it's job), the Murder Taxi would be a non-issue.

On REs/PMs, Just swap the damage values. 750 is enough to kill 90% of infantry.

-Tanks cost A LOT more than LAV's. If we are leaving LAV's as they are, it only make sense making tanks sturdier.

-You can get what i get in Costa Rica. GL

-Yup Drop-ships getting owned by 2 MLT Forge gun shots is no fair.... for them that is.

-AV weapons are GOOD except for prox mines. What makes LAV's un-killable is:
1-You CANT score a 1HKO shot on any of them, not even with a Proto Breach FG.
2-They are way too fast and can out run swarms and take cover from Forge guns pretty fast, making them un-killable.

Heavily damaging them with Prox mines would make it easier to score 1HKO's with Swarms and FG making the AV role viable and the LAV role more fragile (Enough to avoid Murder taxi n00bs), but still useful (Enough for them to fulfill their purpose in he hands of a skilled driver)

Broski, thanks for the support, but im talking about PROXIMITY EXPLOSIVES. you know, the AV ones?
They activate with vehicle incoming detection. They actually activate pretty effectively , just don't do enough damage to be a threat to ANY vehicle. (You would need 3 PROTO P.E. to take out a STD Saga Blue print , WTH?)

So your proposal to nerf LAVs is to buff tanks even more.

Where can I get what you got? Cuz it must be really good stuff.

I agree on dropships.

The problem isn't scrub LAVs, it is the unkillable nature of LLAVs. I propose that all AV get a 200% damage buff against LLAVs, since they are supposed to be weak logistics healer vehicles.

I know your talking proxies, and yes, LLAV, with enough speed, can just drive over them.