generally in video games a "ringer" is a non-clan member brought into a match by a clan to help win. but most video games don't have alliances and we have corps instead of clans. it's kind of a gray area. it's both a correct/incorrect description.

An alliance would be closer to what other games call a clan. In New Eden, the loose affiliation some groups have is what we refer to as a coalition.

Alliance members of a true alliance are not ringers. EON is more similar to a coalition than an alliance.
Alliances function in the CCP universe the way Clan's do in other games.

A corp is just your smaller circle of friends while your alliance is the level at which things get accomplished and direction is decided upon.

Groups being on good terms and helping each other out is not an alliance that is at best a coalition and more accurately is simply some friends communicating and lending a hand every now and then.

If this was true I'd want to see all my alliance battles in an Alliance tab for PC. Overall, I disagree. Corps act mostly independently.

Alliance members of a true alliance are not ringers. EON is more similar to a coalition than an alliance.

News to me.

If this was true I'd want to see all my alliance battles in an Alliance tab for PC. Overall, I disagree. Corps act mostly independently.

Maybe if crops had a limit of 50-100 people then it would be relatively accurate to say "smaller circle of friends" but look at some corps out there with like 500+ members.

When I think of ringers I think of a Team either not having enough players trying to get bodies, or I think of Nikia calling for aces because he didn't want to field his own players, he'd rather field the A-team players of his alliance in order to win his battles. Just my experience.

Corps are considered what clans/guilds are.

Anyone outside your corp/clan is a ringer. It's just in Dust.....ringing is more openly done and acceptable.

You are simply incorrect.

How would you help other than playing in their PC matches? Fork out money? Why have an alliance if you're not allowed to use it forfor help?

There comes a point when a corporation relies on their alliance too much where they call it "as one" to avoid the bad name of a ,ringer,

I'm assuming that was towards me so here's my response.

I never said not allowed. I said that I personally think that any non-corporation member is a ringer. And that ringers aren't a bad thing so there really isn't a shame in having them...

Isn't a ringer generally a negative term? And wouldn't that making ringing negative? And if ringing for your alliance isn't negative then is it really ringing at all? I pretty much agree with what you're saying skipper, I just think it deserves a different term other than ringer.

They simply aren't ringers. We approach every fight as an alliance. We aren't afraid of the word ringer. We have one guy who rings for us on occasion, who's a friend of a friend, and we like him, and he's awesome. And of course, as people have pointed out, we rang in a team once. And that was fine too. (I actually felt a little sorry for dumping that on HavoK Core, they're good folks, but out of the fights we had to fight at the exact same time, we felt HavoK was the most prepared to handle it.

The problem is, the people who thinks alliance members are still ringers are thinking way too small. Small thinking isn't going to last in New Eden. A corporation is your family (think mothers, brothers, sisters). An organizational unit inside your clan (think all the random aunts and uncles who share your name) which is your alliance. Your buddies, who come help you out when you need it... that's your coalition.

You are simply incorrect.

agreed... I do not believe the term 'ringer' applies when members of your alliance are assisting you in battle


never have. Never been comfortable with the term 'ringer' being used so freely in these circumstances.

but as always, that's just my opinion

News to me.

2. Slang A contestant entered dishonestly into a competition.

Dictionary definition of a ringer.

Why is it that Top Men are the only ones that don't get it. I don't understand how you can come from a background that isn't fps and tell fps players that their definition of ringer is "incorrect".

I don't care who you consider family. If they are not a part of your corp then they are ringers...period. When you are short for a battle, you go into your alliance channel and say, "I need a few ringers for a pc match in an hour".

But since these are corp v corp matches and someone not in your corp plays in it, then they are ringing.