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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:04:00 -
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Corps are considered what clans/guilds are.
Anyone outside your corp/clan is a ringer. It's just in Dust.....ringing is more openly done and acceptable. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:45:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Corps are considered what clans/guilds are.
Anyone outside your corp/clan is a ringer. It's just in Dust.....ringing is more openly done and acceptable. You are simply incorrect.
Why is it that Top Men are the only ones that don't get it. I don't understand how you can come from a background that isn't fps and tell fps players that their definition of ringer is "incorrect".
I don't care who you consider family. If they are not a part of your corp then they are ringers...period. When you are short for a battle, you go into your alliance channel and say, "I need a few ringers for a pc match in an hour".
If ringing wasn't allowed in dust, then alliance corp members can still help each other by launching coordinated attacks if they are at war. They will also not launch against each other. They can share battle plans, advice on strategy, dropsuit and vehicle fits, etc. They can also give money to each other if one needs the help or if they need help to fund a war. There are still other ways that alliance corp members can help out if ringing wasn't allowed (just to answer someone else's question).
You guys think that ringers are those you hire or use outside of your alliance. But that would only be true if there was an alliance battle going on. And I don't mean an alliance war....I mean, one battle that's set up for the best of an alliance to fight each other. But since these are corp v corp matches and someone not in your corp plays in it, then they are ringing.
****, if you are in corp A and your brother that lives with you is in corp B, and he plays under one of your alts for a corp A match, then he is a ringer. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:48:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:But since these are corp v corp matches and someone not in your corp plays in it, then they are ringing. They aren't corp v. corp battles. If you attack New Eden's Most Wanted, or any other corp in our alliance, you are attacking Top Men. Your failure to know or understand that is bad intel or research on your part. Anyone who does their due diligence before attacking should be fully aware they will be fighting our alliance as a whole. Then make a corporation called Top Men. so you can stop feeling bad about the term ringer.
I was just going to say that.... |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:14:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:But Kam, our alliance doesn't fill corp first, then alliance for most matches. We just fill the match from alliance, corp members included.
Your alliance seems to function as a corp/clan then. The corps are not even establishing their own identity. Because if someone attacks a district, you guys are just pooling whoever you have online.
That may be counterproductive because there is no batlle chemistry built. You guys just pool whichever role that you have on.
But besides the point....In this game, there are alliance mechanics available but it still doesn't change the definition of what a ringer is. In Dust, ringers are accepted so they aren't frowned upon as much but they still are who they are. Anyone outside of your corp in a match is a ringer. There is no disputing it. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:18:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Because one corporation of 1200 people is a good idea. Let's put them all under one CEO, Like 60 directors, who all can steal the entire group's cumulative assets at any time, and 1200 potential awoxers in every match.
That's just not common sense. Games that operate on the scale of EVE and DUST have hierarchical structures. Players are components of corporations. Corporations are components of alliances. Alliances are components of coalitions.
Aren't there corps in Eve with more than 1200 members in it? Delta Force & PRO had larger numbers than that on Dust. If a corp promotes 60 directors, then it is on them. Noone said there is a rule to have 60 directors in a 1200 member corp.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:20:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Aren't there corps in Eve with more than 1200 members in it? Delta Force & PRO had larger numbers than that on Dust. If a corp promotes 60 directors, then it is on them. Noone said there is a rule to have 60 directors in a 1200 member corp. And look at how "successful" they are. We're not going to apologize for good management.
What are you saying? You think Top Men would've fared better than Delta Force in PC? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:28:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:says the person who uses more ringers in PC than i do. at least use all four of my people tht are on. you have like 2 members of ur corp and the rest are ringers.  We've used like one ringer max, in like the entirety of our time in PC, with the exception of the one match we hired NF. Skipper Jones wrote:Or some people that think they have all ultimate knowledge (such as yourself) and some people that have a different opinion. Not ultimate knowledge. Just more than you. ^_^
Top Men are the only ones that don't know what a ringer is. You guys are trying to recreate the definition given to a word by fps community long before dust was a thought. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:54:00 -
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jjoemike10 O'Conner wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Aren't there corps in Eve with more than 1200 members in it? Delta Force & PRO had larger numbers than that on Dust. If a corp promotes 60 directors, then it is on them. Noone said there is a rule to have 60 directors in a 1200 member corp. And look at how "successful" they are. We're not going to apologize for good management. What are you saying? You think Top Men would've fared better than Delta Force in PC? Well we've won pretty much every time we've played them recently so....
You guys may have beaten them...but that doesn't mean you would have done better. DF got beaten out of pc by EoN corps during the cronos war. You guys exist because EoN has been trying to get new corps into pc. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:56:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:A ringer is someone brought in from outside your "clan" because you either can't field someone who is up to par, or you are simply short x number of members for a particular fight.
in dust, the corp is effectively the "clan" of other games. If they are not from your corp, then they are not from your "clan" which makes them a ringer. Have a nice day.
Seems simple enough, right? But apparently it isn't |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:23:00 -
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I'm just sitting here watching Heathen pwn lol |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:15:00 -
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Lol you guys are unbelievable......think what you what. LolEveplayersttellingyouaboutfpsculture |
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