I am against a complete 'respec' partial respec or the ability to untrain things would be more preferable.

Inb4 Waaaah Eve doesnt do it

Ifmu ask why would anyone want to respecialize theirmsp. Well I only had one respec I jan. And I had no idea what the corp stuff was for. And I chose that skill and pump it up with about 3mil or 4mil sp. Transteller megacorp. Its useless to me period it just sounded nice at the time. Thats why. And if u ever played mag that games takes a primordial dookie on this game. Yet no one realy cared for fotm and players respected the commanders and so forth . IwIsh zipper could show these ego mongers something about console massfps , dammit there I go again. Btw the reasons of my respec statememnt is ninbiased I kinda like the idea of sticking with the first decision. But I dont like it cuz everyones leaving this broken sham of fps.still fun but its broke and its system is a sham

Advantages for gamers:
- Opportunity to find their own game style within the limit of gained SP
- Opportunity to elicit the potential of new objects, which are being introduces in the game
- Opportunity to avoid the loss of the distributed SP if the characteristics are pulled down due to balance correction.
- Able to respec into whatever the new FOTM is whenever CCP does a balancing pass
- Able to go straight into proto versions anytime something new is added

Advantages for CCP:
- This option will raise the interest in the game and return the fighters who have left the project
- This option will earn the UNDERLYING profit from the existing offers for AURUM.
- The FOTM chasers will keep paying AUR, while people that disagree with CCP's decision to allow for respecs will stop playing because who wants to see 32 mercs all using the same thing?
- CCP does not have to see anymore respec begging threads on the forums, despite having said no.

You also had a respec in May, no?

If you had no idea about the skills, you could read up on the bonuses of the skills?

You also had a respec in May, no?

If you had no idea about the skills, you could read up on the bonuses of the skills?

spare the rod and you spoil the child.

I draw the line there because I still want to force players to plan their soldier's growth more carefully.

EVE Online has access to reassigning their attributes which alters how fast they train up their skills which is pure passive but multiple disciplines in many different fields so some stats are combat oriented while others are leadership and more are more of industry or science. So a pirate that decides to retire from a life a crime and make a more honest living can shift the focus in mental training and pursue the new career faster.

Dust 514 has no such system nor no need for it since we only have one major discipline, the art of war. It's also another layer of confusion FPS players don't need.

However I do recognize that players still make not only mistakes but may need to shift strategies to the ever adapting battlefield. An untrainer booster would be a means of doing that by untraining an unused skill they can sling shot towards the next discipline far quicker than without that booster. Pricing of the booster should be the cheapest of the three and only counts down when its untraining an unburden level.

A full respec of a soldier is considered DEEP into Pay To Win territory under the category Favors the Rich and with the time limit idea even I seeing how fast things are turning around and how long things stay FOTM, so at the rate a free one is given out and purchasable ones as well makes it nearly no consequence to train the wrong things or FOTM.

Also it makes it cheaper to give away free Untrainer boosters.

Game numbers are dropping... respecs would have kept more people playing. The people who got them had to learn about them through the forums and specifically request one via email, a thing most console players never knew about. The SP system is too long a grind for a console game... it is a good idea to sell them for ISK or something.... reprogram clone.... they'll never do it. They're not smart enough to stop catering to the Eve base.

Spare the statement and vanquish the philosospher

Excessively poor argument here you have no scientific proof that lack of Respecs are causing players to leave.

That would be similar to me stating the lack of racial symmetry is the leading cause of hemorrhaging of players or there is no PVE mode.

You want to know where most people quit? First 2-5 minutes and that is a known fact across the entire industry.

Well i'm not one for constant respecs, but even the cpm can understand that most of us are beeing forced to spec into races we don't want, because ccp is not fast enough with deploying the different race suits and vehicles. I want to be all caldari and i can't because there is no caldari heavy or scout, so if i want to play them then i'm beeing forced into a different race. now offcourse beeing forced is a big word and i could choose to keep my skills for a later date, but that in its turn takes the fun away of beeing a heavy or a scout. If i was making constant mistakes in my choice of skills, then fare enough, i'll live with it. But this is not a mistake, this is the lack of all racial content. And upon release of the right stuff, i hope ccp and the cpm realises, that atleast 1 more respec is needed so that we all can choose the place we belong, whether its the caldari skills or any of the other three.

Excessively amazing display of denial. Scientific proof? Get a grip man.

2-5 minutes... impressive sidestepping of the issue.. as those aren't the players we're discussing here at all.

Do we dare add another hemorrhage scenario?? People like you appointed as CPM to speak for the rest of us and then speaking for yourself and a small select group instead?

I don't see a CPM tag by your name either. Who died and make you community boss? I can find about hundreds players opposed to respecs in any form. What right do you have to tell them to STFU all up? I have to listen to both sides and I struck somewhere between the middle.

Excessively poor argument here you have no scientific proof that lack of Respecs are causing players to leave.

That would be similar to me stating the lack of racial symmetry is the leading cause of hemorrhaging of players or there is no PVE mode.

You want to know where most people quit? First 2-5 minutes and that is a known fact across the entire industry.

I don't see a CPM tag by your name either. Who died and make you community boss? I can find about hundreds players opposed to respecs in any form. What right do you have to tell them to STFU all up? I have to listen to both sides and I struck somewhere between the middle.

I don't see a CPM tag by your name either. Who died and make you community boss? I can find about hundreds players opposed to respecs in any form. What right do you have to tell them to STFU all up? I have to listen to both sides and I struck somewhere between the middle.

Do you even Dust?

I haven't seen you in game either.

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE

Completely unprofessional behavior from one of our CPM folks.

wait a minute!?!!?.. CPM GET PAID??!?!

:P

No I was out of country funeral . Very hard times

If you had no idea about the skills, you could read up on the bonuses of the skills?

I'm sorry for your loss if it was someone close.

But, the respec in May required NO effort on your part. After you got back, you would have had all your skillpoints refunded regardless. Also, regarding the descriptions/skill tree changed:

Know that cal logi thing?

... that happened because people with 15mil+ SP got a free respec due to the massive changes. People analyzed the patch notes and figured out what would be the best in their view, and this turned into lack of diversity (so i hear), cries of "OP!" and subsequent nerfing.

... future respecs will result in massive FOTM phases with the exact same thing occurring dude. The most interesting part of this game is going up against people with lots of different class types. FOTM is baaaad.

Hurts in the short term, but it will be good in the long-term.

At most a respec every 6-12 months based on character creation anniversary would at least spread out the respecs in the community and mitigate some of the FOTM'ness' because everyone wouldn't be respeccing at thesame time.

IMO

Or the developer could do their jobs better and avoid FOTM stuff in the first place....

Can't do that. Players are much smarter than the Developers, Eve Online is constant living proof of that.

Current FOTM In Eve
Sentry Drones, Everyone Deploys, Assist Commander's Ship, Commander goes down his target list, 4,000 Drones saw that ship in half. This is after many years of the sentry drone being regarded as one of not so useful drones and they barely been touched in just as long. Assist has also been in for the last year too or so and didn't got FOTM until recent.

The other thing though is that recent FOTMs haven't been nerfed by CCP late but by the players themselves, Fleet Doctrines that dictated how majority of a fleet should be comprised of getting beaten the ever living crap out of by a superior fleet doctrine nearly designed to counter that or just outperform it. .

Dust 514 not Eve-online.

Eve is fully other game, there you paid for half a year and go sleep or drinking bear, In dust you spend you time, Eve is more than 10 years, DUST ?

You and others cant compare these 2 games.

I haven't seen you in game either.

I draw the line there because I still want to force players to plan their soldier's growth more carefully.

EVE Online has access to reassigning their attributes which alters how fast they train up their skills which is pure passive but multiple disciplines in many different fields so some stats are combat oriented while others are leadership and more are more of industry or science. So a pirate that decides to retire from a life a crime and make a more honest living can shift the focus in mental training and pursue the new career faster.

Dust 514 has no such system nor no need for it since we only have one major discipline, the art of war. It's also another layer of confusion FPS players don't need.

However I do recognize that players still make not only mistakes but may need to shift strategies to the ever adapting battlefield. An untrainer booster would be a means of doing that by untraining an unused skill they can sling shot towards the next discipline far quicker than without that booster. Pricing of the booster should be the cheapest of the three and only counts down when its untraining an unburden level.

A full respec of a soldier is considered DEEP into Pay To Win territory under the category Favors the Rich and with the time limit idea even I seeing how fast things are turning around and how long things stay FOTM, so at the rate a free one is given out and purchasable ones as well makes it nearly no consequence to train the wrong things or FOTM.

Also it makes it cheaper to give away free Untrainer boosters.

Make the cost half your Lifetime SP and people might consider it. There has to be a real cost to respecs. This will prevent FoTM.

Due to constant game balance correction and the introduction of new objects I suggest your introducing a new option of respec SP for AURUM:

Once a year the respec is free (CCP meets the gamersGÇÖ interests due to constant game balance correction)
Once in X months the respec is fee-based (CCP earns)
Once in 10 million SP (CCP motivates the gamers to remain in the game and maintains their interest).

Advantages for gamers:
- Opportunity to find their own game style within the limit of gained SP
- Opportunity to elicit the potential of new objects, which are being introduces in the game
- Opportunity to avoid the loss of the distributed SP if the characteristics are pulled down due to balance correction.

Advantages for CCP:
- This option will raise the interest in the game and return the fighters who have left the project
- This option will earn the UNDERLYING profit from the existing offers for AURUM.

Due to constant game balance correction and the introduction of new objects I suggest your introducing a new option of respec SP for AURUM:

Once a year the respec is free (CCP meets the gamersGÇÖ interests due to constant game balance correction)
Once in X months the respec is fee-based (CCP earns)
Once in 10 million SP (CCP motivates the gamers to remain in the game and maintains their interest).

Advantages for gamers:
- Opportunity to find their own game style within the limit of gained SP
- Opportunity to elicit the potential of new objects, which are being introduces in the game
- Opportunity to avoid the loss of the distributed SP if the characteristics are pulled down due to balance correction.

Advantages for CCP:
- This option will raise the interest in the game and return the fighters who have left the project
- This option will earn the UNDERLYING profit from the existing offers for AURUM.

Tbh I would like it..eve doesn't like it then allow them to do the same

Due to constant game balance correction and the introduction of new objects I suggest your introducing a new option of respec SP for AURUM:

Once a year the respec is free (CCP meets the gamersGÇÖ interests due to constant game balance correction)
Once in X months the respec is fee-based (CCP earns)
Once in 10 million SP (CCP motivates the gamers to remain in the game and maintains their interest).

Advantages for gamers:
- Opportunity to find their own game style within the limit of gained SP
- Opportunity to elicit the potential of new objects, which are being introduces in the game
- Opportunity to avoid the loss of the distributed SP if the characteristics are pulled down due to balance correction.

Advantages for CCP:
- This option will raise the interest in the game and return the fighters who have left the project
- This option will earn the UNDERLYING profit from the existing offers for AURUM.

I am against a complete 'respec' partial respec or the ability to untrain things would be more preferable.

I draw the line there because I still want to force players to plan their soldier's growth more carefully.

EVE Online has access to reassigning their attributes which alters how fast they train up their skills which is pure passive but multiple disciplines in many different fields so some stats are combat oriented while others are leadership and more are more of industry or science. So a pirate that decides to retire from a life a crime and make a more honest living can shift the focus in mental training and pursue the new career faster.

Dust 514 has no such system nor no need for it since we only have one major discipline, the art of war. It's also another layer of confusion FPS players don't need.

However I do recognize that players still make not only mistakes but may need to shift strategies to the ever adapting battlefield. An untrainer booster would be a means of doing that by untraining an unused skill they can sling shot towards the next discipline far quicker than without that booster. Pricing of the booster should be the cheapest of the three and only counts down when its untraining an unburden level.

A full respec of a soldier is considered DEEP into Pay To Win territory under the category Favors the Rich and with the time limit idea even I seeing how fast things are turning around and how long things stay FOTM, so at the rate a free one is given out and purchasable ones as well makes it nearly no consequence to train the wrong things or FOTM.

Also it makes it cheaper to give away free Untrainer boosters.

When the racial line of an item is filled out then they should refund the SP from that particular skill tree. When all the heavies are out refund all heavy suit SP and the same for scouts and vehicles. Before and after that there should be no refunds.

Screw CCP and screw this game. No new content, same boring maps, and lack of a matchmaking system. I'm just ganna wait till gta 5 comes out, then a lot of dust players will leave and it will be because of CCPs lack of listening to what players want and being flat out lazy. Its not that damn hard to fix the majority of these issues. If CCP wants to cater to eve players then fine you can lose the majority of your player base (console players). A simple respec would fix a lot of the complaining but they wont do it because its good business to sell boosters so we can skill into new gear due to all the bitching and moaning of OP weapons. So to the OP I wouldn't get your hopes up on any respec. Its just not good business for CCP. No money to be made in it for them

SP respec - very necessary function

Dust 514 not Eve-online.

Eve is fully other game, there you paid for half a year and go sleep or drinking bear, In dust you spend you time, Eve is more than 10 years, DUST ?

You and others cant compare these 2 games.

i can compare them. they're the same game. on the same server. with the same players...

on a long enough timeline they'll share an economy and logistics chains.

and the choices you make matter in both games. these are not games where you say "can i have a respec". they're games where you say "next time i'm going to make a better decision."