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low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:53:00 -
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penzas 58 rus wrote:SP respec - very necessary function
i think you've got until february to log into mag and respec as many times as you want.
this is not a 6 month title. |
low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:58:00 -
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10mg PLUMBUM wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KingBabar wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Know that cal logi thing?
... that happened because people with 15mil+ SP got a free respec due to the massive changes. People analyzed the patch notes and figured out what would be the best in their view, and this turned into lack of diversity (so i hear), cries of "OP!" and subsequent nerfing.
... future respecs will result in massive FOTM phases with the exact same thing occurring dude. The most interesting part of this game is going up against people with lots of different class types. FOTM is baaaad.
Hurts in the short term, but it will be good in the long-term.
At most a respec every 6-12 months based on character creation anniversary would at least spread out the respecs in the community and mitigate some of the FOTM'ness' because everyone wouldn't be respeccing at thesame time.
IMO Or the developer could do their jobs better and avoid FOTM stuff in the first place.... Can't do that. Players are much smarter than the Developers, Eve Online is constant living proof of that. Current FOTM In Eve Sentry Drones, Everyone Deploys, Assist Commander's Ship, Commander goes down his target list, 4,000 Drones saw that ship in half. This is after many years of the sentry drone being regarded as one of not so useful drones and they barely been touched in just as long. Assist has also been in for the last year too or so and didn't got FOTM until recent. The other thing though is that recent FOTMs haven't been nerfed by CCP late but by the players themselves, Fleet Doctrines that dictated how majority of a fleet should be comprised of getting beaten the ever living crap out of by a superior fleet doctrine nearly designed to counter that or just outperform it. . Dust 514 not Eve-online. Eve is fully other game, there you paid for half a year and go sleep or drinking bear, In dust you spend you time, Eve is more than 10 years, DUST ? You and others cant compare these 2 games.
i can compare them. they're the same game. on the same server. with the same players...
on a long enough timeline they'll share an economy and logistics chains.
and the choices you make matter in both games. these are not games where you say "can i have a respec". they're games where you say "next time i'm going to make a better decision." |
Heavy Breaks
No Free Pass
162
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:04:00 -
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I'm in favor of respecs in any way shape or form.
I am a heavy so definately not Fotm, if I don't get a Respec ( at least all the SP back out of dirty Armar) when the racialheavy suits come out i for one will be gone. If I'm still here by then.
Fotm will not stop, ever. It is the nature of the beast, let it happen who actually cares?
The game has far far bigger problems. But that's another 50 threads. |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
279
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:08:00 -
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Oh god not this again. This is the thread that never dies. One may disappear only for 2 others to take its place.
That said I do agree to a point. An optional respec should only be given ONCE when a character reaches 2 million SP so a brand new player can erase any mistakes they made while learning the game. It allows for them to experiment and find a playstyle they like, while preventing the FOTM guys from abusing it. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
182
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:08:00 -
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low genius wrote:10mg PLUMBUM wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KingBabar wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Know that cal logi thing?
... that happened because people with 15mil+ SP got a free respec due to the massive changes. People analyzed the patch notes and figured out what would be the best in their view, and this turned into lack of diversity (so i hear), cries of "OP!" and subsequent nerfing.
... future respecs will result in massive FOTM phases with the exact same thing occurring dude. The most interesting part of this game is going up against people with lots of different class types. FOTM is baaaad.
Hurts in the short term, but it will be good in the long-term.
At most a respec every 6-12 months based on character creation anniversary would at least spread out the respecs in the community and mitigate some of the FOTM'ness' because everyone wouldn't be respeccing at thesame time.
IMO Or the developer could do their jobs better and avoid FOTM stuff in the first place.... Can't do that. Players are much smarter than the Developers, Eve Online is constant living proof of that. Current FOTM In Eve Sentry Drones, Everyone Deploys, Assist Commander's Ship, Commander goes down his target list, 4,000 Drones saw that ship in half. This is after many years of the sentry drone being regarded as one of not so useful drones and they barely been touched in just as long. Assist has also been in for the last year too or so and didn't got FOTM until recent. The other thing though is that recent FOTMs haven't been nerfed by CCP late but by the players themselves, Fleet Doctrines that dictated how majority of a fleet should be comprised of getting beaten the ever living crap out of by a superior fleet doctrine nearly designed to counter that or just outperform it. . Dust 514 not Eve-online. Eve is fully other game, there you paid for half a year and go sleep or drinking bear, In dust you spend you time, Eve is more than 10 years, DUST ? You and others cant compare these 2 games. i can compare them. they're the same game. on the same server. with the same players... on a long enough timeline they'll share an economy and logistics chains. and the choices you make matter in both games. these are not games where you say "can i have a respec". they're games where you say "next time i'm going to make a better decision."
Same universe sure, but you must be trollin' if you think EVE and DUST are the same game with the same players. |
Baku Amad
Pawns and Kings
The Superpowers
17
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:31:00 -
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I can honestly say ive been gone from the game for about 2.5 weeks and dont see myself back anytime soon, maybe to check out 1.4 but currently the character ive been spending months on and went on regular 48 hour marathons with once a week was broken as of 1.2 and as of 1.3 it got a little better. But hit detection is off and its a long grind to get him back somewhere thats actually fun to play. It wasnt through me not making wise decisions but simply the game changed and didnt work towards my playstyle. I shotgun btw. I dont buy into the FOTM but I know what i want to play and how i want to play but when running=death through no fault of my home then screw it im done im out ill see you all in the future. |
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