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low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:47:00 -
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gadya bingo wrote:Due to constant game balance correction and the introduction of new objects I suggest your introducing a new option of respec SP for AURUM:
Once a year the respec is free (CCP meets the gamersGÇÖ interests due to constant game balance correction) Once in X months the respec is fee-based (CCP earns) Once in 10 million SP (CCP motivates the gamers to remain in the game and maintains their interest).
Advantages for gamers: - Opportunity to find their own game style within the limit of gained SP - Opportunity to elicit the potential of new objects, which are being introduces in the game - Opportunity to avoid the loss of the distributed SP if the characteristics are pulled down due to balance correction.
Advantages for CCP: - This option will raise the interest in the game and return the fighters who have left the project - This option will earn the UNDERLYING profit from the existing offers for AURUM.
no respecs. ever.
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low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am against a complete 'respec' partial respec or the ability to untrain things would be more preferable.
does this guy even play eve? untrain things? wth does that mean? |
low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I draw the line there because I still want to force players to plan their soldier's growth more carefully.
EVE Online has access to reassigning their attributes which alters how fast they train up their skills which is pure passive but multiple disciplines in many different fields so some stats are combat oriented while others are leadership and more are more of industry or science. So a pirate that decides to retire from a life a crime and make a more honest living can shift the focus in mental training and pursue the new career faster.
Dust 514 has no such system nor no need for it since we only have one major discipline, the art of war. It's also another layer of confusion FPS players don't need.
However I do recognize that players still make not only mistakes but may need to shift strategies to the ever adapting battlefield. An untrainer booster would be a means of doing that by untraining an unused skill they can sling shot towards the next discipline far quicker than without that booster. Pricing of the booster should be the cheapest of the three and only counts down when its untraining an unburden level.
A full respec of a soldier is considered DEEP into Pay To Win territory under the category Favors the Rich and with the time limit idea even I seeing how fast things are turning around and how long things stay FOTM, so at the rate a free one is given out and purchasable ones as well makes it nearly no consequence to train the wrong things or FOTM.
Also it makes it cheaper to give away free Untrainer boosters.
again, no math in the post. the respec in eve allows you to train specific skills 25% faster and 15% faster respectively. you also train all the skills you 'respeced' out of 15% slower... |
low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:51:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:DAMIOS82 wrote:Well i'm not one for constant respecs, but even the cpm can understand that most of us are beeing forced to spec into races we don't want, because ccp is not fast enough with deploying the different race suits and vehicles. I want to be all caldari and i can't because there is no caldari heavy or scout, so if i want to play them then i'm beeing forced into a different race. now offcourse beeing forced is a big word and i could choose to keep my skills for a later date, but that in its turn takes the fun away of beeing a heavy or a scout. If i was making constant mistakes in my choice of skills, then fare enough, i'll live with it. But this is not a mistake, this is the lack of all racial content. And upon release of the right stuff, i hope ccp and the cpm realises, that atleast 1 more respec is needed so that we all can choose the place we belong, whether its the caldari skills or any of the other three. When the racial line of an item is filled out then they should refund the SP from that particular skill tree. When all the heavies are out refund all heavy suit SP and the same for scouts and vehicles. Before and after that there should be no refunds.
this is something very similar to what eve does, and not a 'respec' exactly.
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low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:52:00 -
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Beowulf Folkvar wrote:Screw CCP and screw this game. No new content, same boring maps, and lack of a matchmaking system. I'm just ganna wait till gta 5 comes out, then a lot of dust players will leave and it will be because of CCPs lack of listening to what players want and being flat out lazy. Its not that damn hard to fix the majority of these issues. If CCP wants to cater to eve players then fine you can lose the majority of your player base (console players). A simple respec would fix a lot of the complaining but they wont do it because its good business to sell boosters so we can skill into new gear due to all the bitching and moaning of OP weapons. So to the OP I wouldn't get your hopes up on any respec. Its just not good business for CCP. No money to be made in it for them
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low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:53:00 -
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penzas 58 rus wrote:SP respec - very necessary function
i think you've got until february to log into mag and respec as many times as you want.
this is not a 6 month title. |
low genius
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:58:00 -
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10mg PLUMBUM wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KingBabar wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Know that cal logi thing?
... that happened because people with 15mil+ SP got a free respec due to the massive changes. People analyzed the patch notes and figured out what would be the best in their view, and this turned into lack of diversity (so i hear), cries of "OP!" and subsequent nerfing.
... future respecs will result in massive FOTM phases with the exact same thing occurring dude. The most interesting part of this game is going up against people with lots of different class types. FOTM is baaaad.
Hurts in the short term, but it will be good in the long-term.
At most a respec every 6-12 months based on character creation anniversary would at least spread out the respecs in the community and mitigate some of the FOTM'ness' because everyone wouldn't be respeccing at thesame time.
IMO Or the developer could do their jobs better and avoid FOTM stuff in the first place.... Can't do that. Players are much smarter than the Developers, Eve Online is constant living proof of that. Current FOTM In Eve Sentry Drones, Everyone Deploys, Assist Commander's Ship, Commander goes down his target list, 4,000 Drones saw that ship in half. This is after many years of the sentry drone being regarded as one of not so useful drones and they barely been touched in just as long. Assist has also been in for the last year too or so and didn't got FOTM until recent. The other thing though is that recent FOTMs haven't been nerfed by CCP late but by the players themselves, Fleet Doctrines that dictated how majority of a fleet should be comprised of getting beaten the ever living crap out of by a superior fleet doctrine nearly designed to counter that or just outperform it. . Dust 514 not Eve-online. Eve is fully other game, there you paid for half a year and go sleep or drinking bear, In dust you spend you time, Eve is more than 10 years, DUST ? You and others cant compare these 2 games.
i can compare them. they're the same game. on the same server. with the same players...
on a long enough timeline they'll share an economy and logistics chains.
and the choices you make matter in both games. these are not games where you say "can i have a respec". they're games where you say "next time i'm going to make a better decision." |
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