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halii oloektan
Reap Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:16:00 -
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Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1330
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:17:00 -
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halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1013
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:20:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? totally AR to kill even tanks in a single clip or GTFO. |
testsubject0001
Expert Intervention Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:23:00 -
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halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
mass drivers are fine the way they are they have a slow firing rate flaylocks just got nerfed and you have to be more accuarte with them and there damage output is greatly reduced
bottom line you cant nerf peoples skill if they know how to use a weapon they will get you or put a serious hurt on you and if you dont like dont play fps multiplayer games
why not try using the mass driver and flaylock as they are now they both take skill to use |
KING CHECKMATE
Seraphim Auxiliaries
431
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:39:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right?
Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
437
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:50:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? All hail bullet hoses, the staple of every FPS.
Wait, what about Halo?
Or Quake?
Or Arma (bad example maybe....)?
Bullet hose are BAD for make a diverse game, cause then all the guns homogenize until the point in which the usage of any of them are not rewarded or punished.
Everything just plays the same. That's why I hate so much on CoD. There's no real advantage to using the AK over the M4 or the M4 over the M249. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1332
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right?
Lol, if you think running an Ar means you have skill, well...I don't know what to tell you.
AR is the noobs weapon. |
KING CHECKMATE
Seraphim Auxiliaries
432
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:58:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? All hail bullet hoses, the staple of every FPS. Wait, what about Halo? Or Quake? Or Arma (bad example maybe....)? Bullet hose are BAD for make a diverse game, cause then all the guns homogenize until the point in which the usage of any of them are not rewarded or punished. Everything just plays the same. That's why I hate so much on CoD. There's no real advantage to using the AK over the M4 or the M4 over the M249.
I use SMG's and Nova knives, You quoted the wrong person broski.
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KING CHECKMATE
Seraphim Auxiliaries
432
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Posted - 2013.07.31 04:59:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? Lol, if you think running an Ar means you have skill, well...I don't know what to tell you. AR is the noobs weapon.
I use SMG's and Nova knives, You quoted the wrong person broski.
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1336
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:00:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? Lol, if you think running an Ar means you have skill, well...I don't know what to tell you. AR is the noobs weapon. I use SMG's and Nova knives, You quoted the wrong person broski. Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
You've obviously never used the MD. 1HKO? If you were 1HKO'd from a MD, you deserved it. |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
441
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:03:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? All hail bullet hoses, the staple of every FPS. Wait, what about Halo? Or Quake? Or Arma (bad example maybe....)? Bullet hose are BAD for make a diverse game, cause then all the guns homogenize until the point in which the usage of any of them are not rewarded or punished. Everything just plays the same. That's why I hate so much on CoD. There's no real advantage to using the AK over the M4 or the M4 over the M249. I use SMG's and Nova knives, You quoted the wrong person broski. Meh, I quote indiscriminately.
It wasn't quoting you, more so the line of quotes.
Just a question, is the Breach SMG worth it over STD or ASMGs? |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
478
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:04:00 -
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halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
yeah, and remove HMGs, and SMGs, and shotguns and tanks, and LAVs, and grenades, and scrmabler pistols, and lasers, and ARs, and corporations, and just settle our difference and make peace. then we can sit down and talk about my little ponies and be bronies, .... just kidding your AR noobs are phonnies |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
478
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right? Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right?
Hail Spamming spray and pray weapons with the most dps in the game, better dps than tank turrets. who need to aim? aim i right? *shrugges eyebrows* |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
441
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:08:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Buster Friently wrote: Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. Right?
Hail 1HKO weapons, skill is for noobs. Right? Lol, if you think running an Ar means you have skill, well...I don't know what to tell you. AR is the noobs weapon. I use SMG's and Nova knives, You quoted the wrong person broski. Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone? You've obviously never used the MD. 1HKO? If you were 1HKO'd from a MD, you deserved it. You a scout Checkmate?
Those things are like magnets for OHKs.
Other suits that aren't designed to fall over in a stiff breeze are balanced quite well against the MD.
Didn't play today, don't know if the Flaylocks are balanced good now. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1256
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:09:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone.
Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
479
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:10:00 -
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flaylocks are 100% balanced now. your not gonna 3 shot heavies, but you can still cause massive damage if you know what your doing, like with any real weapon that requires skill, like the scrambler pistol, MD, HMG, laser, shotgun, forgun |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
444
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:15:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone. Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? Phew, hard task.
Impossible If you don't want to count LAVs.
So you, nothing is more easy mode then the AR. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
823
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:17:00 -
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not even a fit scout can be OHK by a mass driver if fit correctly.....well unless you get hit in the face but if that happens it's your fault |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1339
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:18:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone. Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? Phew, hard task. Impossible If you don't want to count LAVs. So you, nothing is more easy mode then the AR.
Honestly, even LAVs probably take more skill. Though not much. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
447
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:27:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone. Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? Phew, hard task. Impossible If you don't want to count LAVs. So you, nothing is more easy mode then the AR. Honestly, even LAVs probably take more skill. Though not much. Yeah, at least I can dodge a few of those. |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
481
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:31:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone. Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? Phew, hard task. Impossible If you don't want to count LAVs. So you, nothing is more easy mode then the AR.
the forgun is a OHK on infantry but requires massive amounts of SP and skills to actually use well. in CQC you are peiced up, at mid range your peiced up. at long range snipers peice you up.
and even if your on top of a building killing infantry 1. you have to know how to fly derp ships which = skill and 2. you have to time your enemies movements and lead your shots. 3. everyone knows where you are, because a. roof, and b. shinning blue ball flying across your screen tends to demand attention.
AR on the other hand.... lets see, everyone gets it, everyone uses it, it comes free with militia fits, has high dps, can be used for almost anything. is better than most guns at everything, reloads in 3s or less (fast than an SMG, a side arm reloads!), has dps comparable to an HMG, has accuracy comparable to a sniper, never over heats, has zero dispersion... use the most balanced amount of CPU/PG of anything other than side arms. can be effective on any suit... works with aim or spray and pray.... masks your location because everyone is using it... it blows up tanks
AR = OP |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
481
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:33:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone. Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? Phew, hard task. Impossible If you don't want to count LAVs. So you, nothing is more easy mode then the AR. Honestly, even LAVs probably take more skill. Though not much.
with LAVs you have to know how to drive, and move the stick. AR noobs just stand still |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
936
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:34:00 -
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halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Uh you batshit insane? And you are probably a shield tanker too....
I have two statements followed by and addendum.
Shield tanking is for pussies, You don't know Explosive pain until you have armour tanked, now if you are an armour tanker you will know that skilled players will still skill shot us to death and the only people using flay locks now are those people.
Mass Drivers are not OP they are good weapons, I wont touch them because they belong to the dirty Minmatar renegades but I cannot see why you would complain about grenades launchers working as intended.
Also quoting from the CCP gospel here is my addendum
"And yea the developers pass unto us these words to live by.... HTFU son!" |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
24
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Posted - 2013.07.31 06:43:00 -
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The MD is pretty ******* balanced right now; no need to change it. The Flaylock is less OP; now it actually takes some investment and skill to use. |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
20
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Posted - 2013.07.31 06:46:00 -
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halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Excuse me sir would you like some cheese, to go with that WHINE! You might wanna wait more than a day before you start complaining about something. First of all I've seen far less flays on the field and I actually stood a chance against them, and seriously since when have mass drivers been a major issue? Since uprising started they're basically an antique. Seriously? Remove them? Why because they're unconventional and you find it difficult to deal with 1v1? Sorry but that's war, your enemy doesn't always face you head on sometimes they like to blow up the ground under your feet, maybe you should try something new to adapt, or run with a team, don't care what the guy is packing even as few as 3 people shooting him at once and he's going down no matter what.
If you really don't like it then don't play, try call of duty. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:19:00 -
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Flaylock is fine now. It definitely fits to be a side arm rather than a primary. Mass Driver I think needs a slight nerf, I'm a fast scout, and these things hit me every time. Even if it's just a scratch it still hits me. It might be slow, but it's splash is too strong. To wide. I've even gotten in guys faces damages them and they STILL kill me. But he doesn't get a suicide? Wtf? I like the Flaylock nerf, no body uses them anymore really(what a surprise) because it's actually a SIDEARM NOW. Mass Driver just needs a splash nerf.
For the AR, I don't understand why you people keep complaining about it. It's not OP, you gotta hit someone a **** ton to kill them. Noob weapon? Come one guys, it shoots in a straight freaking line, if you're moving the guy shooting better have some good aiming skills. Otherwise he's ******. It's also a hybrid weapon, so it does equal damage to both shield and armor.
It's so hilarious seeing people complain about the most basic and standard weapon in the game. In the right hands, it's deadly. Most people on the battlefield are going to be using it, so of course it's going to kill you. And I have never ever seen an AR blow a tank up lol. I'm starting to believe that people ***** about the AR just to *****. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
188
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:halii oloektan wrote:Mass drivers need to be removed, flaylocks need to be removed, game was good before those but now not quite as much.
Uh you batshit insane? And you are probably a shield tanker too.... I have two statements followed by and addendum. Shield tanking is for pussies, You don't know Explosive pain until you have armour tanked, now if you are an armour tanker you will know that skilled players will still skill shot us to death and the only people using flay locks now are those people. Mass Drivers are not OP they are good weapons, I wont touch them because they belong to the dirty Minmatar renegades but I cannot see why you would complain about grenades launchers working as intended. Also quoting from the CCP gospel here is my addendum "And yea the developers pass unto us these words to live by.... HTFU son!"
Man why the hate on shields? They have to fear the laser as armor fears explosives (both 120%). Explosives have splash but lasers have long range. More lasers than explosives if you talking about infantry weapons.
But I really hope the OP is an armor tanker or a Scout because how else do you get 1 shottef by an MD? I guess he could be a shield tanker who lost his shields.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1257
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:34:00 -
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Demon Buddah wrote: Flaylock is fine now. It definitely fits to be a side arm rather than a primary. Mass Driver I think needs a slight nerf, I'm a fast scout, and these things hit me every time. Even if it's just a scratch it still hits me. It might be slow, but it's splash is too strong. To wide. I've even gotten in guys faces damages them and they STILL kill me. But he doesn't get a suicide? Wtf?
I like the Flaylock nerf, no body uses them anymore really(what a surprise) because it's actually a SIDEARM NOW. Mass Driver just needs a splash nerf.
Use the MD.You'll find that if they can hit a fast scout, odds are they're rather skilled and would own you with any weapon.
Demon Buddah wrote: For the AR, I don't understand why you people keep complaining about it. It's not OP, you gotta hit someone a **** ton to kill them. Noob weapon? Come one guys, it shoots in a straight freaking line, if you're moving the guy shooting better have some good aiming skills. Otherwise he's ******. It's also a hybrid weapon, so it does equal damage to both shield and armor.
The AR does not take skill to aim. It has a 60 round capacity and a blistering DPS. All you have to do is point and spray and you'll get kills. If I can do that with a standard level AR with no skills in it (I use the 'exile') so can you.
Demon Buddah wrote: It's so hilarious seeing people complain about the most basic and standard weapon in the game. In the right hands, it's deadly. Most people on the battlefield are going to be using it, so of course it's going to kill you. And I have never ever seen an AR blow a tank up lol. I'm starting to believe that people ***** about the AR just to *****.
The DPS from the AR one of the best in the game. Here's some numbers for you. All weapons are standard level unlesws otherwise stated.
AR = 425 dps 20gj blaster turret = 357.125 80gj blater turret = 750.05 crd-9 Assault scrambler rifle (advanced level) = 444.717 HMG = 533.33 MD = 225 direct 115 splash (one round a second, lol) Sniper rifle = 158.3
As you can see the AR outpaces the turret version of the same tech keeps pace with an advanced level weapon and beats the MD and SR's DPS by large amounts.
It even keeps pace with the HMG's damage as the AR is much more accurate leading to many more of those shots actually hitting, and then we can factor in damage type making the AR much better at taking on shields (110% vs the HMG's 95%) making it better at taking on the game's most common form of tanking.
So yeah, the AR has one of the best DPS in the game (counting turrets) with no real downsides and generous fitting stats.
The AR is getting decently balanced now due to shorter ranges and other weapons getting buffed, but it IS the easiest weapon to use and one of the most damaging, all with no real downsides and it's skill gives you access to the Tac AR giving any AR user a way to kill at range. |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
550
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Posted - 2013.08.01 02:01:00 -
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The mass drivers stayed the same you idiot. The only new thing was flaylocks. and the Flays got nerfed.
Give me a good reason that Mass Drivers should be removed. Because they killed your pretty little suit.
Stop crying |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
33
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:03:00 -
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They screwed the flaylock. Hardly anyone uses it now. Myself included |
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