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Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:19:00 -
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Flaylock is fine now. It definitely fits to be a side arm rather than a primary. Mass Driver I think needs a slight nerf, I'm a fast scout, and these things hit me every time. Even if it's just a scratch it still hits me. It might be slow, but it's splash is too strong. To wide. I've even gotten in guys faces damages them and they STILL kill me. But he doesn't get a suicide? Wtf? I like the Flaylock nerf, no body uses them anymore really(what a surprise) because it's actually a SIDEARM NOW. Mass Driver just needs a splash nerf.
For the AR, I don't understand why you people keep complaining about it. It's not OP, you gotta hit someone a **** ton to kill them. Noob weapon? Come one guys, it shoots in a straight freaking line, if you're moving the guy shooting better have some good aiming skills. Otherwise he's ******. It's also a hybrid weapon, so it does equal damage to both shield and armor.
It's so hilarious seeing people complain about the most basic and standard weapon in the game. In the right hands, it's deadly. Most people on the battlefield are going to be using it, so of course it's going to kill you. And I have never ever seen an AR blow a tank up lol. I'm starting to believe that people ***** about the AR just to *****. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:10:00 -
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Quote: Use the MD.You'll find that if they can hit a fast scout, odds are they're rather skilled and would own you with any weapon.
I can seriously doubt they can beat anyone with anything other than the MD. Thing requires no skill. I've played against a lot of people who used the Flaylock before it was nerfed, they are either getting their asses kicked, or somewhere sniping with a forge gun or using a mass driver.
Quote: The AR does not take skill to aim. It has a 60 round capacity and a blistering DPS. All you have to do is point and spray and you'll get kills. If I can do that with a standard level AR with no skills in it (I use the 'exile') so can you.
60 rounds, and good DPS. Blistering is probably from the damage mods. And no, spraying doesn't get you kills, either you've played against some ****** players, or you're one lucky SOB lol.
Quote: The DPS from the AR one of the best in the game. Here's some numbers for you. All weapons are standard level unlesws otherwise stated.
AR = 425 dps
20gj blaster turret = 357.125
80gj blater turret = 750.05
crd-9 Assault scrambler rifle (advanced level) = 444.717
HMG = 533.33
MD = 225 direct 115 splash (one round a second, lol)
Sniper rifle = 158.3
As you can see the AR outpaces the turret version of the same tech keeps pace with an advanced level weapon and beats the MD and SR's DPS by large amounts.
It even keeps pace with the HMG's damage as the AR is much more accurate leading to many more of those shots actually hitting, and then we can factor in damage type making the AR much better at taking on shields (110% vs the HMG's 95%) making it better at taking on the game's most common form of tanking.
So yeah, the AR has one of the best DPS in the game (counting turrets) with no real downsides and generous fitting stats.
The AR is getting decently balanced now due to shorter ranges and other weapons getting buffed, but it IS the easiest weapon to use and one of the most damaging, all with no real downsides and it's skill gives you access to the Tac AR giving any AR user a way to kill at range.
The scrambler rifle is also a laser weapon, meant to destroy shield and weaker against armor. The AR is hybrid.
The HMG is well, a heavy weapon so the bullets don't just fire straight like an AR does, HMG is DEADLY at CQC, AR isn't. Mid range HMG is still good, AR is at it's best. Long Range, HMG useless, AR is pretty useless unless you can aim well. Like I said, it shoots in a straight line making moving targets hard to hit.
Not sure what to say about the blasters. The sniper rifle is a slow shooting weapon and I know for a fact it does more damage than that. I got a **** ton of armor on my assault suit and a standard rifle get's me pretty good. Wipes my shield out and a good amount of my armor.
The reason most of the people complain about the AR is because that's what they get killed by the most. Most people use it. Chances are you're going to get killed by it. The AR is meant to be flexible, it's the standard weapon. It does it's job like it's supposed to. AR needs to be left alone. |
Demon Buddah
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:17:00 -
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Quote: So the weapon that gets one shot a second, and requires at least two direct shots coming from the slowest projectile with an arced flightpath or 4 rounds with splash damage to kill someone at prototype level takes no skill at all?
Skill into it and post screenshots or I'm calling bull ****.
Started skilling into it and been using the EXO, no damage mods, and I've been doing great. So far I have made my point as I have killed people while they're moving away and the nade lands far away from them and still does massive damage.
Tell me how I can show you with screenshots and I will. I can show you the kills and death screen but what would that prove?
Quote: BS. you can use the hipfire to mow down moving targets easily. You don't have to be good at aiming, all you have to do is point at the target and 70% of your rounds will hit target.
That's BS, I've done it, I've played against and with people that's done it and most times it doesn't end well for them. And when I do that if I do happen to get the kill I already shot a **** ton. Are you using a mouse and keyboard?
[quote ] look it up. that's the base damage done by sniper rifles. I did not factor in damage mods or any proficiency damage bonuses., nor did I factor in head shot bonus - which would tip the AR further towards OP as the "firing in a straight line" that you claim to be a downside lets the AR put all of that DPS into the head. [/quote]
Well if that's how much the sniper rifle is then that's crap. And yes with the AR shooting in a straight line is hard, especially if using a controller. The head is also a small target so if you happen to get most of your shots in the head good job. If you use a mouse and keyboard it's a lot easier for the bullets to land. Look what happened to the laser rifle, straight shot, and if kept on the targets it kills. But it got nerfed. Damage builds up with focused fire, especially accurate focused fire.
Quote: first things first. There should not be a standard weapon. That's boring. I want some diversity in the gameplay. The ARs being the standard weapon stops that from happening. It's too big of universe for that to be anywhere near acceptable.
I do agree with you about the AR needing to be left alone. Other weapons should be buffed.
And I completely agree with you about diversity. It is boring just seeing one weapon. But what I meant about standard is that the AR is the most recognized weapon in any shooter. So most people are going to pick that over everything else. But lately, all I see anymore is either forge guns or mass drivers. Why? Because they're easy kills. Forge gun I haven't used all that much, but from what I have used it's pretty damn hard to kill a moving guy with that thing. I've been using the EXO some and it hasn't been hard at all to hit someone. Even from a distance.
I'm not just defending the AR cuz I use it I just believe it's not OP like people think. I use a shotgun more than anything now. I'd like that to get a buff, or at least the hit detection to work better. Anyway, just don't really think AR is as powerful as people make it seem. |
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