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Talos Alomar
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Posted - 2013.07.31 05:09:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Still, i think AR need more ''skill' than a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE weapon. LOL
Nub tubz anyone?
ok, so which weapon is a 1HKO EXPLOSIVE nub tubz? No explosive weapon can one shot someone.
Can you name a weapon that takes less skill than the AR that actually exists in the game? |
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:34:00 -
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Demon Buddah wrote: Flaylock is fine now. It definitely fits to be a side arm rather than a primary. Mass Driver I think needs a slight nerf, I'm a fast scout, and these things hit me every time. Even if it's just a scratch it still hits me. It might be slow, but it's splash is too strong. To wide. I've even gotten in guys faces damages them and they STILL kill me. But he doesn't get a suicide? Wtf?
I like the Flaylock nerf, no body uses them anymore really(what a surprise) because it's actually a SIDEARM NOW. Mass Driver just needs a splash nerf.
Use the MD.You'll find that if they can hit a fast scout, odds are they're rather skilled and would own you with any weapon.
Demon Buddah wrote:
For the AR, I don't understand why you people keep complaining about it. It's not OP, you gotta hit someone a **** ton to kill them. Noob weapon? Come one guys, it shoots in a straight freaking line, if you're moving the guy shooting better have some good aiming skills. Otherwise he's ******. It's also a hybrid weapon, so it does equal damage to both shield and armor.
The AR does not take skill to aim. It has a 60 round capacity and a blistering DPS. All you have to do is point and spray and you'll get kills. If I can do that with a standard level AR with no skills in it (I use the 'exile') so can you.
Demon Buddah wrote:
It's so hilarious seeing people complain about the most basic and standard weapon in the game. In the right hands, it's deadly. Most people on the battlefield are going to be using it, so of course it's going to kill you. And I have never ever seen an AR blow a tank up lol. I'm starting to believe that people ***** about the AR just to *****.
The DPS from the AR one of the best in the game. Here's some numbers for you. All weapons are standard level unlesws otherwise stated.
AR = 425 dps
20gj blaster turret = 357.125
80gj blater turret = 750.05
crd-9 Assault scrambler rifle (advanced level) = 444.717
HMG = 533.33
MD = 225 direct 115 splash (one round a second, lol)
Sniper rifle = 158.3
As you can see the AR outpaces the turret version of the same tech keeps pace with an advanced level weapon and beats the MD and SR's DPS by large amounts.
It even keeps pace with the HMG's damage as the AR is much more accurate leading to many more of those shots actually hitting, and then we can factor in damage type making the AR much better at taking on shields (110% vs the HMG's 95%) making it better at taking on the game's most common form of tanking.
So yeah, the AR has one of the best DPS in the game (counting turrets) with no real downsides and generous fitting stats.
The AR is getting decently balanced now due to shorter ranges and other weapons getting buffed, but it IS the easiest weapon to use and one of the most damaging, all with no real downsides and it's skill gives you access to the Tac AR giving any AR user a way to kill at range. |
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Demon Buddah wrote:
I can seriously doubt they can beat anyone with anything other than the MD. Thing requires no skill. I've played against a lot of people who used the Flaylock before it was nerfed, they are either getting their asses kicked, or somewhere sniping with a forge gun or using a mass driver.
So the weapon that gets one shot a second, and requires at least two direct shots coming from the slowest projectile with an arced flightpath or 4 rounds with splash damage to kill someone at prototype level takes no skill at all?
Skill into it and post screenshots or I'm calling bull ****.
Demon Buddah wrote:
The scrambler rifle is also a laser weapon, meant to destroy shield and weaker against armor. The AR is hybrid.
The HMG is well, a heavy weapon so the bullets don't just fire straight like an AR does, HMG is DEADLY at CQC, AR isn't. Mid range HMG is still good, AR is at it's best. Long Range, HMG useless, AR is pretty useless unless you can aim well. Like I said, it shoots in a straight line making moving targets hard to hit.
BS. you can use the hipfire to mow down moving targets easily. You don't have to be good at aiming, all you have to do is point at the target and 70% of your rounds will hit target.
Demon Buddah wrote:
Not sure what to say about the blasters. The sniper rifle is a slow shooting weapon and I know for a fact it does more damage than that. I got a **** ton of armor on my assault suit and a standard rifle get's me pretty good. Wipes my shield out and a good amount of my armor.
look it up. that's the base damage done by sniper rifles. I did not factor in damage mods or any proficiency damage bonuses., nor did I factor in head shot bonus - which would tip the AR further towards OP as the "firing in a straight line" that you claim to be a downside lets the AR put all of that DPS into the head.
Demon Buddah wrote:
The reason most of the people complain about the AR is because that's what they get killed by the most. Most people use it. Chances are you're going to get killed by it. The AR is meant to be flexible, it's the standard weapon. It does it's job like it's supposed to. AR needs to be left alone.
first things first. There should not be a standard weapon. That's boring. I want some diversity in the gameplay. The ARs being the standard weapon stops that from happening. It's too big of universe for that to be anywhere near acceptable.
I do agree with you about the AR needing to be left alone. Other weapons should be buffed. |
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