^^math don't lie

No what else takes no skill? Dying

Or maybe the reason their KDR went up was because they gained more skillpoints, got more skilled, and played a little more now that they were having some fun. You know sometimes things like that happen.

Sorry - that was garbage with contradictions.

oh Bud, the reason why is because the Flaylock specializes in armor damage. So Gallente is Armor focused in Armor health than shield strength making them ideal for Flaylock kills. Run a Militia or Standard Caldari and you will see a major difference in the Flaylock effectiveness. it is still a strong weapon as a sidearm but if your shield is strong the Flaylock is much less a threat. That my tip for you.. Run more shields when you see Flaylockers roaming the fields but run Armor when you see Scrambler rifles or laser rifles and even ARs too

What was contradictions? your being just as vague bud.

Sigh - hate this argument - When a player jumps you with an advanced or higher SMG and kills you what is the rationale for them not needing a primary weapon or using a flux.

It took me three shots today to kill a scout at an objective - that is crazy.

I had no problem with them reigning it in but now its super niche. At least the requirements are ridiculously low, its the only thing that kind of justifies its new damage. Shame you have to spend that amount of SP for a weapon that has to depend on another weapon to become effective.

If you run in a squad it can still be mean though.

Hope they buff it back slightly or actually listen to better proposals put forward in the forum.

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Okay this math is qrong.... Check the ingame status information and the details section. The SMG does more damage to armor than shields and same with the Flaylock. If your a strong shield dropsuit than the damage used against you with this weapons is less than its optimal damage. also the time it takes for you to optimally land all 40 rounds compared to landing 3 shots with the flaylock is a major thing to consider. Once your land those three shots damage done could be overcome with another weapon. So i could Flaylock you and if you survived then i would swap weapons and finish you off instead of reloading. While the smg does wonders in Armor damage its pretty weak against shields.

wouldn't it of been better then to give the flaylock more ammo in the clip and far less damage.

if it took 5-6 hit instead of 3 to kill the target it would of resulted in more time to react and a less effective insta kill wepaon

Sloth takes no skill :)

Still dps should be in line with other weapons, and not be able to unload 3 rounds (with extra damage to my armor) and destroy my 550+ suit faster than I can turn and face my opponent. That is unless you actually give me an anti-shield aoe main and side that are in lines with the MD and gaylock. Don't even say Flux, as proto locus can one shot me when using a combo of shield and armor, or shield extensive.

Time isn't wasted, if you are playing and training into a weapon/playstyle and are having fun then that time was well-spent. If you continue to find things in the game that you enjoy doing and improve upon them that's exactly what we want. If something changes within the game because of balancing, it will, ideally, become balanced to the game. So while not as powerful as before should still be something that you enjoy playing. If it was only chosen because it was over-powered and not a style that you particularly cared for - chances are there's not much that will satiate you.

As for good players still killing bad players. Absolutely, skill can determine a battle that is not something we want to balance against. Our data showed the weapon may need tweaking, along with the player feedback a choice was made to do some adjustments. We will see how this goes. :)

Wait, is the fitting still crazy low? While not nerfing every aspect of a thing simultaneously is good I had thought the lack of fitting costs was a mistake, not by design. Had kinda assumed there might be a correction on that score at some point.

Not lobbying for it, just surprised.

There was someone running one of the Flaylocks and was still killing with it. It wasn't the Core versions either. That guy actually made me feel a little better. I'm glad someone still successfully uses it. That's all.

When Shotgun hit detection gets fixed, you're all ******.

Wait, is the fitting still crazy low? While not nerfing every aspect of a thing simultaneously is good I had thought the lack of fitting costs was a mistake, not by design. Had kinda assumed there might be a correction on that score at some point.

Not lobbying for it, just surprised.

When Shotgun hit detection gets fixed, you're all ******.