What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

They got a direct hit on you which is hard to do with a forge gun

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

I've been shot in the head with a fully charged sniper shot and have lived

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

You must really suck if you died from one of these

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

Hahahaha.

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

Scrambler have a higher efficiency against shield. Maybe you shouldn't shield tank so much lol.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

CCP knows about this and are planning to release fixes.

The problem is that you still can Kill people with AR's .. and that annoys the FPS haters ALOT. If it was up to them, the AR will be remove from the game altogether.

I call it the "AR haters club" .... there they come... get ready...

Oh I'm ready for the responses but I won't talk to them. The guy who commented after you is a complete idiot.

I just can't believe people call this "AR 514" and that the game is built around assault rifle users. I don't think it is.

I LOVE my AR/sub combo. Yes, i know its not very "out of the box" but it gets me from A to B with a trail of corpses behind me.

To be honest, I've seen more threads recently on OP dropships than OP ARs. And that's saying something.

The reason (I suspect) is the fact that the AR is the most common weapon. The most used generally gets the most hate.
Now personally I do think it could do with some small tweaks to recoil and perhaps damage, but that's just me.
If you get hit direct by a forge gun, then that's just pretty bad luck or a very good shot, doing that isn't easy.
Snipers, eh, not sure where to go on this one.
The plasma cannon is an incredibly difficult weapon to use in an effective manner.
Shotguns, meh, the guy snuck up on you, chances are if you had of seen the guy you woulda gotten him, I don't think there's much of a problem.
Scrambler rifles are good against shields, if your focus is shields, you probably wont want to fight someone with it in a straight shootout.
The LAV is a known issue and there is fixes coming in like, 1.4 I think.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

Damn straight a forge gun should 1 hit kill every infantry in the game, just lower the damage so it doesnt make railguns look silly.

Plasma cannon? why the **** wouldnt that one hit you.

Its a shotgun, theres a reason it 1 hits people

Scrambler rifles have amazing rate of fire and high damage they also do extra damage to shields.

Yea LAVs are bloody annoying but thats why you carry AV nades with at least 1 AV nade/swarm in your squad

ARs are fine

Im thinking this was a troll post or youre just generally bad, but good job not QQing over fleylocks

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

#1. We have people complaining about them already.

#2. Thats reasonable.

#3. Da ****? Thats a thing

#4. Thats not technically OHK, he took your shields, it was most likely CQC, y'know, where shotguns are at their most effective

#5. Thats what they're made to do, just like Armour Vs Mass Driver

#6. They're already being worked on.

I don't think the fact that you can have OHKs is a bad thing. While a shotgun getting a OHK hurts the shotgunner got the jump on you. If you see a shotunner from a normal distance you'll kill him with an AR 9 out of 10 times.

If you get close to a sniper or forge gunner then you've got them too. The weapons are powerful but they're all situationally powerful. They have major drawbacks.

I love my AR and the versatility of the weapon is the reason why. But I'll probably lose if I'm fighting someone on their terms.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

some people are only happy when they're complaining

Personally, I don't like the way ARs are working because you can only use the Standard AR to any real success. The TAR might be getting back on its feet after its most recent nerf (as Cosgar mentioned), but I'm not sure. I don't think the weapon is "broken". I just want to see people want to be able to use the other varieties of the weapons and actually be successful with them.

For example, I would be using the Burst AR if it didn't suck so much. It's a weapon that requires a bit more skill than the Standard AR because you have a delay between shots - and therefore have to place your shots more carefully - yet it's weaker than the standard AR. I might even use the breach if I didn't feel like I could hose down an enemy in more or less the same time with the Standard AR in CQC.

In short, I don't think the weapon is broken. I think that it is in a good place as far as a default weapon should be. I think other weapons need to be improved so that there can be a stronger "rock, paper, scissors" element to ranges, burst damage, etc. I also think that the AR branch should be used in its entirety, as should every weapon with different types. If not, there's no point in having them in the game, and that kills an avenue of diversity that we should be exploring.

When the AR got the blanket nerf in kick and dispersion in closed beta, it ruined the other variants. The breach... well, we all know that story...

i think your #4 was meant to be #3 ? the shotgun did kil me, i just meant the suit had 670 shield.

well maybe the scrambler rifles do too much damage? if something is effective against shields or armour I can dig that. I like the fact that we have 2 versions of health and that EVENTUALLY you will have to suit up accordingly and weapons will be used to counter. because everybody has shields. and the SCRs absolutely melt them in less than a second

#1. We have people complaining about them already.

#2. Thats reasonable.

#3. Da ****? Thats a thing

#4. Thats not technically OHK, he took your shields, it was most likely CQC, y'know, where shotguns are at their most effective

#5. Thats what they're made to do, just like Armour Vs Mass Driver

#6. They're already being worked on.

People will complain about whatever they die most often to. Vehicle pilots complain about forge guns, infantry complain about flaylocks, ARs, and Super Assaults (Cal Logi).

If I had to choose it'd have to be all the noob tube explosive weapons, and that list includes flaylocks, grenades (Contact and Core Locus), and somewhat mass drivers. Explosions are the real bane of this game. You don't actually have to hit the person like you do with most other weapons. You just have to land your projectile in their general vicinity and claim your IWIN.

Player skill in, power out. Something that takes 2x the amount of player skill to use should not have 2x the amount of power. What this boils down to is that in any multilayer game involving PVP, (not just FPS) the most powerful game mechanics usually require the least amount of skill while the ones that require more skill aren't as effective, but are fun to use.
In Dust, the standard AR is the easy mode weapon. It's the first thing any new player will ever get their hands on. It's familiar and follows the boring but effective trope, making it the most widely used weapon in almost every situation. A player can literally invest all their SP into the AR and use the Duvolle for their entire merc career and be just fine, but it's not always the most effective weapon. The breach, burst (If they worked) and the TAR require more skill and are less effective than the standard AR, but are powerful within their given situation, I'm not talking about just aiming, but the skill to put those weapons in their niche situations to be used effectively. But due to over nerfing, bad aiming, hit detecting... etc, the breach and burst under perform while the TAC AR is underrated in its current rebalanced state. Without these variants properly balanced, the standard AR gets the most focus because it becomes the most effective weapon by default which throws off the delicate player skill < raw power balance. And that's just within the AR.
Believe it or not, but the other weapons in the game require more skill than the standard AR. Again, not talking about just aiming, but the ability to create a situation where they can perform in their respective niche. But the problem is that a lot of these weapons under perform, even in their respective niche situation where they should dominate the AR. Prime example, the HMG. Inside 30m a heavy with an HMG should be shredding an AR 9/10, but due to poor aiming mechanics, hit detection, and the HMG nerf the reality is that the weapon only wins ~4/10 of those engagements.
There's nothing wrong with the standard AR, the other variants and other niche weapons need to be more powerful in their respective niche situations. The hate comes from the fact that the AR is perceived as OP because it's the most consistent and serviceable weapon on the battlefield.
There's a completely unrelated, indirect issue with the AR that you can even find within this very topic. If you haven't realized it yet, it's doomed to continue.

*In b4 get good scrunb, learn2play EVEtard, GTFO... etc...

2# that's not reasonable.
They are safe from everyone but other snipers, they have huge damage output, especially the charge version that can OHK starter fits, and it's EXTREMELY easy to use.
Point, shoot, collect WP.
They all need either a dramatic ROF decrease or have ballistics.
CCP said their servers won't be able to handle it, so ROF is the answer.

2# that's not reasonable.
They are safe from everyone but other snipers, they have huge damage output, especially the charge version that can OHK starter fits, and it's EXTREMELY easy to use.
Point, shoot, collect WP.
They all need either a dramatic ROF decrease or have ballistics.
CCP said their servers won't be able to handle it, so ROF is the answer.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)
- Base damage for a militia forge gun is over 1000. How many suits have total HP of at least 1000? You figure it out.

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).
- Made stronger by skill and damage modifiers.

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)
- More like shooting a load over distance than an AV weapon.
What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)
- I don't see the problem here. It's the best CQ weapon ever devised for a reason.

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.
- CCP said they were going to do well against shields. Dunno what you're complaining about.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?
- A multi-ton vehicle colliding with something that probably weighs 700-1000lbs. You figure it out.

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.
- They used the incredible advantage that is a height advantage plus weapons with splash damage. Still don't know what you're complaining about. You figure it out.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.
Because, as was mentioned a while ago, 95% of the playerbase was using only one flavor of AR, the Tac AR. If when in a match, you get killed by an AR, and 9 times out of 10 it's the GLU or Duvolle TAR, then there's a problem. If people are running around with dual flaylocks because a sidearm is better than the mass driver, there's a problem. When your suit with 670 shield (remember kids, energy weapons are very effective against shields) loses out to a militia forge that does 1200 base damage, then it's working as intended.

Now that I basically made your thread useless, having my way with every argument you made, what do you have to say?

I think that some sniper rifles just do far too much damage. If I'm out in the open and someone shoots me it's my own fault. But WHY can you snipe Into the objective? I was hacking A and got shot by a sniper, that shouldn't be allowed.

LOL So you want some magic anti-kinetic force field around objectives so you can't be shot while hacking the terminal?

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

troll thread is troll
next he'll say tanks are op because he cant solo with mlt gear

The problem is that you still can Kill people with AR's .. and that annoys the FPS haters ALOT. If it was up to them, the AR will be remove from the game altogether.

I call it the "AR haters club" .... there they come... get ready...

In pub matches, the game most of us play, the AR is ridiculously overused to the point of removing any thought of diversity in the game. The AR kills as much as 10 of the 12 light /sidearms combined.

Hail AR 514, go AR or go home.

/Going home before I dirty my hands with any AR other than that found on a [STARTER FIT]

He's was obviously trolling...

Scrambler Rifle + SMG = Godly combo.

i think your #4 was meant to be #3 ? the shotgun did kil me, i just meant the suit had 670 shield.

well maybe the scrambler rifles do too much damage? if something is effective against shields or armour I can dig that. I like the fact that we have 2 versions of health and that EVENTUALLY you will have to suit up accordingly and weapons will be used to counter. because everybody has shields. and the SCRs absolutely melt them in less than a second

I guess I'd be labelled mad if I said you should use the weapon your comfortable with. Any weapon can be mastered with enough patience

They melt them because THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO! They say "Hello Cal logi. I like your sui. ohh now you're dead."


You really think that your Cal logi should be invisible don't you? Take a hit and move on.

That's just fucking ridiculous. Although there was an assault dropship that was causing trouble in a match I was playing in earlier..... I then continued to shoot it down with my swarm launcher.

The AR has no drawbacks and can kill anyone. Every other weapon has a drawback and, well, can't. That's poor balance.

Halo 4 is the ultimate example of how you properly balance out weapons. Every weapon is defined by a very specific range that it is strongest in. Just from the human weapons it is easy to see how the pattern works. The Halo AR devours the DMR and BR in closer ranges, but is useless beyond close-mid range. The BR dominates firmly at mid range while requiring extremely good headshot tracking to make the most of it, which the DMR is decent at mid range and dominates soundly at long ranges.

The alien weapons mimic this pattern somewhat, but tend to requiring more skill to use properly.



Unfortunately in this game, the AR is strongest in basically all ranges, minus extreme sniping. Lately this has become less true because of the poor shape the aiming is in, giving rise to splash based weapons as the primary threat on the field. That will be change in a month or so, and we will probably go right back to having AR's dominate everything again.

That dropship didn't happen to have a gunner named Nig Stompin did it?

I LOVE my AR/sub combo. Yes, i know its not very "out of the box" but it gets me from A to B with a trail of corpses behind me.

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

That dropship didn't happen to have a gunner named Nig Stompin did it?

What about 1 hit kill forge guns? (Yesterday I had a guy do 2300 damage to me)

What about the 1 hit kill sniper rifles? (there's not even any indication as to where the shot came from).

What about the 1 hit kill plasma cannon? (no idea what it really is)

What about the 1 hit kill shotgun? (I lost a 670 shield proto caldari logi suit to a militia shotgun from behind)

What about scrambler rifles? I had one take out my 670 shield in less than a second.

What about one hit kill LAVS going 5mph?

Assault rifles are awful. I played PC yesterday and every single player from Outer Heaven was spamming mass drivers and flaylocks or camping on roofs whilst doing so. If assault rifles were so good every player would use them religiously instead they flock to the unbalanced, over-powered FOTM weapon.

The game needs some major weapons re-balancing, I know I've named a lot of weapons here and somebody will come to their defense but I don't care, there are far too many one-hit-kill weapons in this game (used against infantry) which make assault rifles the least of your worries.

Do you guys just go down a list of things that needs to be changed? Leave the AR alone. It is the basic rifle of the assault mercenary. No need for yall to start opening yall mouths to fix a problem that isn't there.

Imagine that, ChangeARs...what a bunch of horse manure

OK then the guy got lucky or I was stood still and didn't see him.

But one guy the other day had a AU/2 Assault Forge Gun and was destroying our whole team with one hit kills. You literally couldn't get near him.

Yeh the shotgunner got me from behind but that's 769hp he just did to me with one shot, from a militia level weapon.

I know nothing about the plasma cannon, only that it killed me with one hit.

I think that some sniper rifles just do far too much damage. If I'm out in the open and someone shoots me it's my own fault. But WHY can you snipe Into the objective? I was hacking A and got shot by a sniper, that shouldn't be allowed.

bottom line, there are too many one hit kill weapons in this game. I'd like to have a decent 1v1 using assault rifles but instead I just get killed with one hit. that's not an FPS. that's just spamming explosive weapons.

OK then the guy got lucky or I was stood still and didn't see him.

But one guy the other day had a AU/2 Assault Forge Gun and was destroying our whole team with one hit kills. You literally couldn't get near him.

Yeh the shotgunner got me from behind but that's 769hp he just did to me with one shot, from a militia level weapon.

I know nothing about the plasma cannon, only that it killed me with one hit.

I think that some sniper rifles just do far too much damage. If I'm out in the open and someone shoots me it's my own fault. But WHY can you snipe Into the objective? I was hacking A and got shot by a sniper, that shouldn't be allowed.

bottom line, there are too many one hit kill weapons in this game. I'd like to have a decent 1v1 using assault rifles but instead I just get killed with one hit. that's not an FPS. that's just spamming explosive weapons.

You sound scared, buddy.

I already explained what was wrong with the rifle a page back.

It was inconvenient so you pretended the explanation did not exist.

I already explained what was wrong with the rifle a page back.

It was inconvenient so you pretended the explanation did not exist.

Will we continue to pretend the explanation does not exist, or can we finally move on to the next stage of the debate where you pretend that you DID read it, but the explanation was just so off-the-wall ridiculous that you just couldn't be to address the lowly peasant who wrote such drivel?

Then I can accuse you of being ignorant and a terrible player, and you can go back to accidentally flaylocking yourself in pubs.

I didn't see the name but do you use an incubus ADS?

the sniper one was stupid why would you want to know where my shot came from ? so u can kill from behind ? .-.

it doesn't make me happy. yeh I came here for a bit of a moan but really it's just to see what other people think. whether they have the same problems or think dying with one shot is fine.

If you look closely when you take damage, there is a little red arrow (I call it the blood arrow) that points off from the red damage circle that indicates where the shots are coming from (points down for shots coming from directly behind you, up for directly in front, right, left etc.) I've actually used this to respawn and find snipers and either flank them or snipe them myself. It's actually kind of fun. It becomes about me and him/her then.

I know what you mean. It can feel cheap but I still don't think it's a balance problem. A Forge Gun is quite difficult to use so if someone does kill me with one it isn't so bad because I know they're a skilled player.

#1. Ever use a Forge Gun? No? If you died instantly, he's either good with it, or got a lucky shot. To do that kind of damage it must be a direct hit. And with how ****** the aiming is in DUST, it's a miracle.

#2. It's a sniper rifle. It's a sniper rifle that fires rounds at 7000 meters per second. Yes. Getting shot in the head with that kind of kinetic energy should kill you pretty much instantly.

#3. Anyone that dies to a plasma cannon is either sleeping, not paying attention, or the guy on the other end is really ******* good with it. And if he's put the time in to get that good with it, he deserves it. Because the plasma cannon is ****.

#4. Again. Large caliber weapon firing multiple projectiles with huge delivery of kinetic energy. Problem physics?

#5. Scrambler rifles are supposed to be good against shield tank. Problem reading dev posts?

#6. LAV Roadkill at 5mph is broken and CCP is going to fix it.


Now. AR's are prolific for a number of reasons. You start out with it. It does equally well against shields or armor. Which means that anyone that is heavily tanked in either direction does not have an advantage either way. They are very accurate even without passive bonuses.

My only problem with them is they are good at all ranges barring at extreme sniping ranges. (God forbid they are left in this state and allowed to take magnified scopes) "Assault" or battle rifles are short to mid range weapons. Meaning 25 to 200 meters. Beyond that, projectile drift and gravity takes over and accuracy suffers. In our fantasy sci-fi world, AR's are good from 0 to around 400 meters (guessing).

The AR is actually quit well-balanced. That's why it's used so much. The question is; Why aren't the other weapons better?

And why does aiming with them suck so hard?

LOL So you want some magic anti-kinetic force field around objectives so you can't be shot while hacking the terminal?

They melt them because THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO! They say "Hello Cal logi. I like your sui. ohh now you're dead."


You really think that your Cal logi should be invisible don't you? Take a hit and move on.

troll thread is troll
next he'll say tanks are op because he cant solo with mlt gear