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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:39:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Gogo O'Dell wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:axis alpha wrote:You are taking the ten year plan and changing words around. I'm sure they meant ten years after release ;) lol, good luck with this game being viable 10 months after release Is it even viable now? Player counts are trending down, there doesn't seem to be any meaningful content due for the next couple of months, and the fixes are coming slow and with their own problems. How few players does Dust need to be called a flop? Well since it was 5000 last time we could see, at the rate it dropped (4000 in 2 weeks from 9000), that'd put it somewhere around 1500-3000 right now. When people stop buying Aurum and logging in and the numbers drop below 1000, maybe they'll take notice as to how all of their hardcore playerbase left and it's just clueless noobs that dont have the patience to understand this stupid game. The EvE API log in tracker has dust at a pretty steady 4600-4800 actually... on weekends at least. However... whats more interesting is looking at the newborn player chart. It says over 9000 people per week are making new dust accounts, and yet the player numbers never increase. I find that very interesting myself... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Blame the IMPS, we go through a lot Alts to keep posting on the forums, seriously i think at one point 70% of the 200 players we had had multiple account bans cause you know we are monitored like hawks |
BGoat
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:57:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:BGoat wrote:Surt gods end wrote:BGoat wrote:Surt gods end wrote:Complimentary. A simple word. Too bad the word you were looking for is Complementary. Sometimes, trying to sound smarter than you are can backfire. Sometimes corrected one spelling without noticing that ALL his posts are edited cause he just flies through can make you look like a bloody Nerd. But not the I like comics and games kind. You didn't misspell the word, you used the wrong word entirely. Judging by your response, you still don't know the difference. I'm just trying to help you. Don't use big words when you have a limited vocabulary, it will save you from sounding ignorant. Who cares? So he used the wrong word that sounds exactly like the right word. The only people that care are other grammer n@zis and English teachers. How about arguing the topic rather than being a petty little nothing?
I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
160
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:02:00 -
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BGoat wrote:
I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
We have stopped playing, the in game client but WE WILL NEVER STOP PLAYING THE REAL GAME.
Didnt anyone tell you, you dont play dust on a PS3 you play it like EVE, ON THE FORUMS. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1114
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:14:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:BGoat wrote:
I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
We have stopped playing, the in game client but WE WILL NEVER STOP PLAYING THE REAL GAME. Didnt anyone tell you, you dont play dust on a PS3 you play it like EVE, ON THE FORUMS.
https://forums.dust514.com. Where the real metagame is. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2631
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:20:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. Old saying, if it aint broke don't fix it. You heard it here first, gents!
Any attempt at innovation is bad. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
29
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:11:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:BGoat wrote:
I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
We have stopped playing, the in game client but WE WILL NEVER STOP PLAYING THE REAL GAME. Didnt anyone tell you, you dont play dust on a PS3 you play it like EVE, ON THE FORUMS. https://forums.dust514.com. Where the real metagame is.
DUST 514orum |
Gogo O'Dell
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:20:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:BGoat wrote:
I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
We have stopped playing, the in game client but WE WILL NEVER STOP PLAYING THE REAL GAME. Didnt anyone tell you, you dont play dust on a PS3 you play it like EVE, ON THE FORUMS. https://forums.dust514.com. Where the real metagame is.
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fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.22 07:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. Old saying, if it aint broke don't fix it. True true but it gets boring after a while if the vomit doesn't at least change colors or smells.
But they could of used it and added and adjusted it slightly just to get the Fps part of the game to work instead of what we have now.
If the shooting mechanics were spot on ccp would be in a better position than they are now.
The game is just not good enough the sp portion of the game locks you into a role that you cant alter , if you go assault and your in a game with lots of vehicles thats it your pretty much stuffed and if most of your team is the same build you may as well afk.
At least other games give you the option to change load outs to counter the situation, hence half the problem with dust.
Sure you can start another character but who wants to have to go through all that grind again |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
377
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Posted - 2013.07.22 07:21:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. Old saying, if it aint broke don't fix it. You heard it here first, gents! Any attempt at innovation is bad.
Thought you had a bit more insight than that tbh. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
174
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:06:00 -
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BGoat wrote: I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
Pretty much this. Though I think even the people who QQ and moan all the time love the game to bits deep down. Well, that's the conclusion that I come to because the alternatives are that they:
don't play and just come here to troll which indicates a sorry lack of other things to do in life. play the game, hate it, but feel obligated to play because they spent money on it. play the game, hate it, but feel obligated to play because they spent time on it. play the game, hate/dislike it but can't bare the idea of others overtaking their lifetime SP.
or one of many other ******** and unhealthy possibilities. Don't like a game, don't play it...and don't let your finite time be consumed by something you don't think is worth your time. Dem minutes ain't coming back. |
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meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
172
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:20:00 -
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Dust is an FPS with a long-term skill tree. That's the point. And I agree on this. What I donGÇÖt agree is when rookies getting instakilled because they are putt in the same matches as 10mil SP players, but hopefully this will be fixed. But I do agree that this game is lacking content and diversity.
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RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
169
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:33:00 -
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BGoat wrote: I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
People are stopping, all the time. Just look at the trending figures on eve-offline. As regards the novellas of criticism, would you prefer one-liners? You know, "This game sucks, you're all gay for playing, I'm quitting to wait for Destiny"?
If you don't want to read constructive feedback that people have put thought into then I suggest you stop playing the forum. If people didn't care about the game they'd just leave quietly and move onto the next thing. |
KR-91N
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:30:00 -
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Go watch 13 year old videos of Unreal Tournament or Quake 3 on the PS2 or, dare I say, the superior Dreamcast.
Notice how they look (pre-HD) and handle perfectly fine. Impressive, in fact.
Then think how the **** did they mess up the gun game so badly in Dust.
Get this, they use the Unreal engine, but throw out the responsive controls and gameplay that they know the engine supports.
I just don't ******* get it. And it breaks my heart. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:20:00 -
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RedRebelCork wrote:BGoat wrote: I'm obviously trolling this thread because I'm sick of people writing novel-sized forum posts about why they hate this game, yet continue to play it. This topic is a dead horse that has been beaten beyond recognition and I have absolutely no desire to "argue the topic". I would much prefer that people just STFU or HTFU. Don't like the game and don't think it will ever succeed? STOP PLAYING.
People are stopping, all the time. Just look at the trending figures on eve-offline. As regards the novellas of criticism, would you prefer one-liners? You know, "This game sucks, you're all gay for playing, I'm quitting to wait for Destiny"? If you don't want to read constructive feedback that people have put thought into then I suggest you stop playing the forum. If people didn't care about the game they'd just leave quietly and move onto the next thing.
^This.
If I or my clan/corp didnt care about this game, we would have quietly moved on to something else.
Personally, I did invest money, time and hope into this game because I thought it could be something special. The issue is not the premise but the execution here.
CCP keeps telling us that they will have more interaction with the playerbase and they even created the CPM to be a set of delegates for us. Oh, they try for a bit here and there but then the apathy sets in again and they go silent.
I do appreciate that they are moving to this monthly patch system and that they are alternating between content and balance but I fear that it might be too late to keep people interested at this point.
I might be wrong and 1.4 may have enough content in it to keep people going but that is yet to be seen as we have no clue what is going to be in it.
The problem is that CCP doesnt understand the power of anticipation nor do they understand exactly where they are at with their playerbase.
Give us an idea of what is coming and some sort of roadmap and you might see more people stick around. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
240
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:14:00 -
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everything you said was spot on...except for the competition part....i hate competition and i do not like competitive people...there mentality is usually....GET GUD SCRUB RUN AND GUN....WHY ARE CAMPING THIS IS A SPORTS GAME WITH GUNS! yea i dont think so.....i think if the games is about war then we should be able to treat it like war....other than that everything you said is spot on. |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:30:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. Found the error in your statement.
IWS is one dude that doesn't know his arse from his ********! |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:47:00 -
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LOL
DUST is dead,
Quote:Executive Prodcer-DUST514 CCP is looking for an Executive Producer to take on DUST 514 continued development since its initial launch on the PlayStation 3 on May 14, 2013. In a similar way as CCP made EVE Online growth and prosper for over a decade the plan is the same for DUST 514 and in a similar way as with EVE, expand platforms in the future beyond the initial PS3 version. The EP is responsible for reconciling business and creative needs to create an inspirational product with successful business model. This position will lead overall development and will work closely with publishing and operations activities for DUST 514. The EP is responsible for the overall success of the title. The Executive Producer will need to build and lead strong teams of senior people from across the project in order to develop, communicate and execute the creative vision and business plans for DUST 514. As the key business leader for the project, the Executive Producer maintains a strategic focus on the overall goals of the project and a long term perspective in respect to creativity, quality, budget and timelines. |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:33:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:LOL DUST is dead, Quote:Executive Prodcer-DUST514 CCP is looking for an Executive Producer to take on DUST 514 continued development since its initial launch on the PlayStation 3 on May 14, 2013. In a similar way as CCP made EVE Online growth and prosper for over a decade the plan is the same for DUST 514 and in a similar way as with EVE, expand platforms in the future beyond the initial PS3 version. The EP is responsible for reconciling business and creative needs to create an inspirational product with successful business model. This position will lead overall development and will work closely with publishing and operations activities for DUST 514. The EP is responsible for the overall success of the title. The Executive Producer will need to build and lead strong teams of senior people from across the project in order to develop, communicate and execute the creative vision and business plans for DUST 514. As the key business leader for the project, the Executive Producer maintains a strategic focus on the overall goals of the project and a long term perspective in respect to creativity, quality, budget and timelines.
LMFAO! |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
424
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:34:00 -
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Oh boy. |
Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
184
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:37:00 -
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Linking it for the tards! |
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
502
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:43:00 -
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Banned From Forums wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:LOL DUST is dead, Quote:Executive Prodcer-DUST514 CCP is looking for an Executive Producer to take on DUST 514 continued development since its initial launch on the PlayStation 3 on May 14, 2013. In a similar way as CCP made EVE Online growth and prosper for over a decade the plan is the same for DUST 514 and in a similar way as with EVE, expand platforms in the future beyond the initial PS3 version. The EP is responsible for reconciling business and creative needs to create an inspirational product with successful business model. This position will lead overall development and will work closely with publishing and operations activities for DUST 514. The EP is responsible for the overall success of the title. The Executive Producer will need to build and lead strong teams of senior people from across the project in order to develop, communicate and execute the creative vision and business plans for DUST 514. As the key business leader for the project, the Executive Producer maintains a strategic focus on the overall goals of the project and a long term perspective in respect to creativity, quality, budget and timelines. LMFAO!
They got rid of the other thread talking about it pretty quickly.
Watch this space for more moderation. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:43:00 -
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Banned From Forums wrote:
Thanks, I also started a thread here,
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1087289#post1087289
Feel free to LOL with me on that thread as well. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
813
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:41:00 -
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Banned From Forums wrote:
Vindication!!!!!! AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!!!
Quote: Executive Prodcer-DUST514 CCP is looking for an Executive Producer to take on DUST 514 continued development since its initial launch on the PlayStation 3 on May 14, 2013. In a similar way as CCP made EVE Online growth and prosper for over a decade the plan is the same for DUST 514 and in a similar way as with EVE, expand platforms in the future beyond the initial PS3 version. The EP is responsible for reconciling business and creative needs to create an inspirational product with successful business model. This position will lead overall development and will work closely with publishing and operations activities for DUST 514. The EP is responsible for the overall success of the title. The Executive Producer will need to build and lead strong teams of senior people from across the project in order to develop, communicate and execute the creative vision and business plans for DUST 514. As the key business leader for the project, the Executive Producer maintains a strategic focus on the overall goals of the project and a long term perspective in respect to creativity, quality, budget and timelines.
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs/job-details.aspx?jobid=476 |
dazlb72
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
49
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already.
i thought you were meant to represent the playing community of this game, but it seems to me all you do is peddle ccp's propaganda
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
183
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:49:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. You meant the "working formula" that everyone uses because they know that it works ? A car have 4 wheels right ? Why try to put 3 wheels on, when you know that isn't going to work ? Why try to use 20 wheels, when you know that isn't going to make any difference ?
Completely ridiculous analogy. |
GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:00:00 -
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Don't get to excited there big boy.
New leadership might mean another 8-10 years to turn this pile of crap around. At the very least maybe 2-3 years to get it going in the correct direction.
Meh and who knows new leadership my run this crap pile even further into the ground.
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2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
813
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:04:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Don't get to excited there big boy. New leadership might mean another 8-10 years to turn this pile of crap around. At the very least maybe 2-3 years to get it going in the correct direction. Meh and who knows new leadership my run this crap pile even further into the ground.
Nah i just meant that what I was saying finally had some facts out in the open that could back it up without me getting banned. |
Viktor Zokas
187. League of Infamy
63
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:08:00 -
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TL;DR: 'I am too lazy to start a new free account with friends. I am no expert in the game industry, but the way things look, Dust is dead.'
Sums it up folks, move on. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
864
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:13:00 -
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I don't believe the job posting necessarily supports any of your claims. Brandon Laurino was looking somewhat haggard at fanfest this year and may just be going on to something new, of his own free will. He could just be burnt out. Or looking to get the hell out of the FPS genre. People do change jobs from time to time and look for new opportunities.
But I did not log in to counter your dramatic arm waving. Or even write about Dust's Executive Producer. Since the add does not suggest that they are looking for a replacement. So much as a Prodcer.
I really just wanted to suggest that CCP add another job posting to the list.
Proofreader for job postings.
Also, Budgie! One of the all time greatest rock bands ever.
Rock on, Breadfriend. Sorry. Breadfan! |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
243
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:10:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I thought most competitive shooters just regurgitate what works even if some other game chewed it for them already. Old saying, if it aint broke don't fix it. Isn't that what lead Medal of Honor getting stomped out of existence almost though? MoH failed cuz nobody WANTED a MoH. Why would anyone want a clone CoD game with BF mechanics? 2 very different markets colliding to create a mediocre game that wasn't good in any department. People want a DUST. People want a reason to play. Problem is CCP don't even know what they want for DUST themselves. You know how many people expected PVE at this point? How great that would have been for new comers AND vets alike? People are tired of the same 4 map pubstomp. PC means nothing anymore, FW has always meant nothing, and lolpubs.
QFT!! |
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