I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

Vehicle players are the whiniest bunch of bastards in this game, why not wait for the full details of 1.4 before declaring the end of the world

Vehicle players are the whiniest bunch of bastards in this game, why not wait for the full details of 1.4 before declaring the end of the world

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

Vehicle players are the whiniest bunch of bastards in this game, why not wait for the full details of 1.4 before declaring the end of the world

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

then why is that you think your entitled to a respect because your logi suit is getting nerfed to become what its meant be, a logi suit, your not entitled to ****.... and you in fact are the biggest whiners here because every time infantry doesn't one shot something, and they get killed they cry "NERF" on EVERYTHING....

Show me where I asked for respec for myself due to the changes to a suit I dont even main
Have I said the CPU reduction was to much and shouldnt have been considered yes, did I ask for a respec no

But hey if you think you are right go ahead and go through my post history and show me where I asked that
Or just shut the **** up and take your whiny ass somewhere else *****

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

u complain about us tank drivers yet i see infantry whiners everywhere. Even thou the Cal logi is getting a pretty good buff other than CPU nerf IMO. now it might not be u but considering i see Flaylocks r OP, Cal logis r OP, or contact nades r OP all revolving around infantry i recommend u talk about something else. like i said might not have been u but infantry have done their fair share of ********.

u realize tht bug is wat kept armor tanks alive from av? now they will all die and burn. u really know nothing don't u?

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

Because those things actually are unbalanced
Losing your shiny toy because some people actually put in the time to skill into weapons that can harm you and worked together to focus fire on your cowardly ass and then hearing every single tanker under the sun make a thread about it and even organize to try and spam the boards with them so they take up the entire page is you being a whiny little ****

No I realize that bugs like these can cloud the picture up of what is really going on verses what the developers thinking what is SUPPOSED to go on.

Maybe the damn bug lead us to the nerfs in the first place that brought them to the levels that they currently are.

It's also probably related to other armor repair bugs such as the infinite repper or locked reppers.

Either way there are plenty of things changing concerning shields armor and vehicles very soon and I will try to work to get the information out to you guys quickly as possible.

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

Don't worry now you can depend on the LOGI's you guys laugh about when you support our nerf :) Armor tankers you will get repped by the Logi's you want us to become

Bout time CCP listens and takes god mode away.

Iron you do relize that this bug has kept armor tanks balanced with through the whole of dust. Ahh I forgot you did not get on CPM because of your smarts. You where just one of those that followed everything CCP did from the beginning and was their little IRC pet. Sorry it is not creating balancing issues. And never created this mass fail of imbalance CCP is creating.

Because those things actually are unbalanced
Losing your shiny toy because some people actually put in the time to skill into weapons that can harm you and worked together to focus fire on your cowardly ass and then hearing every single tanker under the sun make a thread about it and even organize to try and spam the boards with them so they take up the entire page is you being a whiny little ****

Assuming CCP left you any CPU to equip it.

You know I rather see a working game than a broken one. I mean the lot of you sound like a bunch of idiots wanting the game to be broken on purpose.

Iron Wolf I have put more knowledgeable feedback on where vehicles need to go then you could imagine in your whole damn life.

You understand so little about vehicles it makes me laugh. You have always been a CCP dog and you know it. Saying I am a idiot is like saying you understand the game mechanics of vehicles.

Personally I can challenge any dev on ingame knowledge for vehicle mechanics and not a single one of them would know more then me. Yes they can repeat their code. And they can speak the numbers that they get back. But they understand so little about their game it is sad.

Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo
Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked
Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked
Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked
Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass

On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield

"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched"
For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

The thing is CCP has stated so many times that they do not want proto tanks to be better then standard they want them to be specialized.

So sorry if you do not understand that word.

That means standard are a base copy. It is the middle ground. Proto tanks are not going to be god like tanks coming in able to handle proto AV any better really. They are just going to be able to do certain things better. At the cost of other benifits that standard tanks give you. So many people are hopeful that oh when this comes out they come out with proto vehicles life is going to be easier. Sorry they already have had 2 proto tanks out the enforcers and the marauders.

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

Lame..just lame, of course when I come back

U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible.

Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms.

Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill

Explain how "We want tanks to be specialized" excludes the possibility and tanks geared towards even more defense in a way that enforcers and specialized towards ranged battles
See when you use this thing called logic your argument falls apart

Heres what invalidates all your whining
A swarm doing 3k to you
A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage
Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first
This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you?

******* idiot, QQ some more

Enforcers prove my logic 100%. Enforcers are **** compared to standard tanks. Just to earn all that extra tank against AV you will be moving at a snails pace and unable to get away.

I understand enough about vehicles to survive enough matches to net positive in all three currently available platforms at militia grade.

Bugs need to get fixed. The quicker the better. Because that will help paint a real picture of how badly things are and thus real and honest fixes to the balance can go through.

Heres what invalidates all your whining
A swarm doing 3k to you
A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage
Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first
This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you?

******* idiot, QQ some more

3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD
i'm done arguing with u.

The following is the damage output for proto swarms, with proficiency 5 and two damage mods, against an armor tank:

3,648.77 HP per volly

Even without the damage mods and only level three proficiency it is still three thousand.

3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD
i'm done arguing with u.

Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields
Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with

Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields
Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with

Your dead wrong dude. Open mouth insert foot.

Did you factor in the shields resist to explosives and the diminishing returns on the damage mods

Heres what invalidates all your whining
A swarm doing 3k to you
A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage
Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first
This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you?

******* idiot, QQ some more

On the forums they crying while the mercenaries in New Eden are dying.

And its funny. All the dev gotta do is post in here and the whiners transform into brown nosers lol!

"Oh thanks CCP you really do listen"

Once they leave

"They better fix this game now!! How many times must ask you this CCP?! I'm leaving!!"

Yea...okay. Please...shut up.

just so you know a max sp proto SL with 5 damage mods can do 3588 per volley(using the 20% bonus on armor) on armor.

@Caeli SineDeo

I only have roughly 8 mil SP invested into shield tanks and I do amazingly well. The rest of my 18 mil SP is invested into Gal logi.

Inversely...

1. You know its a bug.

2. Why are you continuing to exploit it?

I honestly think its just a spelling error.

Is not 120% there is a bug. It is more like 135% to 150% it varies. This has been tested by player in game, or so I have heard form player claiming to have tested it.

Oh yes I agree 8m sp tanks and get a solid tank set up. BUt you forget I am first tanker so that means I want to invest all I can into tanks so I am able to best play against other tankers. That means fully skilling out to lvl 5 in all my skills that work. currently part of them do not. By doing this I am able to create better fits with either the extra CPU or PG I gain because Sheild extenders or armor plates cost less. So it cost me alot more. Their is a reason why I have taken on 3 tankers at once and can beat them. Because they may invest minimal to run proto gear on their tank but I have put my full SP into tanks so I can fit past what they can.

That means out of my 12m SP I have 10m into tanks and a addition 2m into having a okay ground set up. And I dare not invest much outside of that because I want to have that edge on other tankers.

Inversely...

1. You know its a bug.

2. Why are you continuing to exploit it?

I honestly think its just a spelling error.

What would be the equivalent of a burn jita for dust?

Son of a Gun I double checked your math
A proto swarm at 5 proficiency running two complex damage upgrades comes out to 2673 before adding any resistance bonuses or weaknesses
Adding in the 30% damage bonus to armor thats 3475 per swarm solely to armor but thats just ignoring the shield resistance bonus to get numbers we would prefer
Factor that in and you get 1871 damage per swarm and every tank has resistance amps and plates to further decrease those numbers

Now I know you felt like you struck a great blow but then here comes proper math and logic to show its not as bad you guys whine about

Today marks the day that the last of the great tankers left Dust. This is officially everybody who ever achieved the status of "great tanker" in the Vet community (those who actually played PC). Infantry, we toss in the towel. You have QQ'd us into the ground and CCP allowed it.

Before you tell us to learn how to tank, ask the guys who went against us in PC or CBs (in Chromosome...most of you weren't there) how good we were and they will tell you. The handful of us that truly learned the art of tanking and got it down to a science know exactly what is wrong with tanks and have all proposed every possible fix to it, but now it is over. Or for a more recent source, ask the tankers who tried to take us one on one without any help and ask them how well they did. We got to where we are by being the best in Chromosome and in Uprising. When we die, it is not because we are being stupid. We die because we have glass tanks against weapons that can take half of our HP away in 2 shots if our hardeners are not on.

You all troll us and say, "Can I haz ur stuff????", but that is the problem. in a few short months, you will look at the kill feed and see noting except Duvolle Assault Rifle, as eventually, everything will be nerfed. Look at weapons in Uprising, then look at the QQ threads in Uprising. Almost all of them were noted AR players asking for nerfs of non-ARs and now look at the effective weapons: snipers, ars, flaylocks, and mass drivers. Nothing comes close and the mass drivers and flaylocks will be soon to go.

All of the vets with half a brain in their head saw this coming and warned everyone, but trolls gaffed us off.

Tanks are why the last of us are leaving, but it is not the real issue. The issue is useless CPMs who only got to where they were by sucking CCP's ****, devs who are more concerned about pleasing the most common type of player (CalAssault AR nooblet), and a company that has failed to listen to its community during a beta. Again, tanks are just a symptom of a much larger problem. Tankers have been the first to quit, but others will follow, shortly. Unless you all stand together against the AR QQ-ing bitches, you will lose your combat effectiveness to a point where no amount of skill can save you, as we did.


Void, Bob, Caeli: It has been fun but this game is no longer for us; I hear Slap likes WoT. Hahaha.

-Charlotte O'Dell

No1 cares...

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

Ya nothing I can do. The game I once enjoyed has been ripped apart slowly from precursor build. There is no joy left in this game.

Inversely...

1. You know its a bug.

2. Why are you continuing to exploit it?

I honestly think its just a spelling error.

... sigh

@ Cali

Don't even bother with these loonies. I am done going out of my way to help CCP. They dug this hole and they can climb out.

@IWS

What is wrong with you man? You're a pretty chill dude but you say such stupid things. You pride yourself on being versatile and adaptive aka Jack of all trades. However, just because you can do everything does not make you an expert in everything. Honestly if I had to pick between Cali or IWS for tank advice, a 100% of the time I would choose Cali. Therefore, I am much more inclined to think that armour tanks will be broken if CCP fixes this bug.

I'm sorry IWS but there is no credibility behind your name because, in-game wise, you have done nothing.

Well if tanks are balanced I don't care if they fix the repair.

Because those things actually are unbalanced
Losing your shiny toy because some people actually put in the time to skill into weapons that can harm you and worked together to focus fire on your cowardly ass and then hearing every single tanker under the sun make a thread about it and even organize to try and spam the boards with them so they take up the entire page is you being a whiny little ****

No I realize that bugs like these can cloud the picture up of what is really going on verses what the developers thinking what is SUPPOSED to go on.

Maybe the damn bug lead us to the nerfs in the first place that brought them to the levels that they currently are.

It's also probably related to other armor repair bugs such as the infinite repper or locked reppers.

Either way there are plenty of things changing concerning shields armor and vehicles very soon and I will try to work to get the information out to you guys quickly as possible.

You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.

What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug.

Vehicle players are the whiniest bunch of bastards in this game, why not wait for the full details of 1.4 before declaring the end of the world

u realize tht bug is wat kept armor tanks alive from av? now they will all die and burn. u really know nothing don't u?

Not one person thinks this nerf is going to do anything but kill vehicle play and you decide that CCP is immaculate instead? WTF is wrong with you?

I'm not sure who the whiniest Bunch of Dust is, but the playerbase itself is pretty whiny.

"Fix vehicles!"

"Give us a respec!"

"AFK players!"

"Red line snipers!"

"Logi nerf!"

"Caldari Logi now too weak!"

"AV should cost more so I can park my tank out in the open!"

"Protos are too powerful because I suck at playing!".

Iron you do relize that this bug has kept armor tanks balanced with through the whole of dust. Ahh I forgot you did not get on CPM because of your smarts. You where just one of those that followed everything CCP did from the beginning and was their little IRC pet. Sorry it is not creating balancing issues. And never created this mass fail of imbalance CCP is creating.

Caeli SineDeo I hate you an your IMP scum BUT please please dont uninstall just take a brake and come back when you hear good reports. Community needs you bro.

Game cannot keep loosing people

What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug.

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323

They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps.

This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300
Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread.

I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers.

Inversely...

1. You know its a bug.

2. Why are you continuing to exploit it?

I honestly think its just a spelling error.

why not biomass your character, OP? Since you hate the game and everything...

Because they need attention.. This is the biggest accomplishments of their not only life but gaming career. Could you easily just delete it?

Who are you?

You are crying about nerfing armour tanks, stfu! They need a god damned nerf so our gunlogi and falchion can maybe venture out of redline and fight other tanks now instead of having to sit and snipe all match! Welcome to something called the red line good sir.

Did you honestly just call every armor tanker an exploiter? You are ******* mental.

HOW DARE YOU INSULT A CPM MEMBER!

sadly it will
ur right it cant keep losing ppl but ccp incompetence + game not being up to par + terrible for solo and new players is driving ppl away. Vets are gettin tired with CCP never listening, i used to be someone who defended ccp to a certain extent when there was room to defend them, also was one who gave alot of feedback constantly...now? i dont even care cuz its like feedback falls on deaf ears

If all of the ppl working on DUST had the commitment and willingness to interact and listen to the community like Team True Grit then this game would be in a MUCH better state atm.

Caeli hmu sometime dude where u and enigma goin btw?

Just to put it in special kid language.

Current bug allows a total rep of 6210 that means a armor tank can take 2 extra volleys of swarms if you fix the bug you put the armor tanks back to 2,070 HP repped. That means a armor tank can not even gain the HP to defend against one extra volley of swarms that do 3k damage+

Armor tanks depend on reps to live. because they do not naturally repair their armor. If armor tanks get hit hard enough they also take burn damage. With the current set up. If they fix the bug Armor reps will actually have trouble repairing through the burn damage. It will take a total of 4 whole runs to repair a fully damage tank that puts a tank out of battle for a whole 2 mins to rep up if it has been put down into low armor.

Also I will be able to rep back less damage then a forge puts out and a rail turret. This means after the reps get fixed things will become useless almost because it will not even allow you the ability to take a extra hit. it is better to go buffer run through kill some people get out of their and use a logi tool out of sight or recall your tank and bring in a new one.

Sorry no idea where fixing this bug makes anything more balanced.

Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad.

Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad.

Then explain why my large reppers on my soma never over repairs to the point I have to install a second small repper just to compliment and top off my measly 4k hp, they don't pulse every second.

Once you understand the conditions to where I get something working as normal maybe you can start to understand how harmful this bug is.

As I posted in another thread, CCP only listens to feedback on certain things. Other stuff they completely ignore ALL feedback, and do their own thing.

Going by spreadsheets and pub stats is what lead to Uprising being the way it is right now. A completely unbalanced, one dimensional, broken game.

The sad part is, I'm not even exaggerating

nerfs or buffs that are based on bugs are the worst kind last time I checked. It's how we got the OP shotgun, Breach SMGs, Breach ARs last time and by not buffing or nerfing around a bug is what lead to the mass driver to its comfortable spot right now without the bug.

Iron Wolf I have put more knowledgeable feedback on where vehicles need to go then you could imagine in your whole damn life.

You understand so little about vehicles it makes me laugh. You have always been a CCP dog and you know it. Saying I am a idiot is like saying you understand the game mechanics of vehicles.

Personally I can challenge any dev on ingame knowledge for vehicle mechanics and not a single one of them would know more then me. Yes they can repeat their code. And they can speak the numbers that they get back. But they understand so little about their game it is sad.

As I posted in another thread, CCP only listens to feedback on certain things. Other stuff they completely ignore ALL feedback, and do their own thing.

Going by spreadsheets and pub stats is what lead to Uprising being the way it is right now. A completely unbalanced, one dimensional, broken game.

The sad part is, I'm not even exaggerating

All of those were OP. The armor tank is currently balanced. Nerfing the armor reps will make them more UP than shield tanks. Shield tanks are UP. imbalance is bad. fixing this bug creates more imbalance than there is now. Can a tanker be any more clear???

nerfs or buffs that are based on bugs are the worst kind last time I checked. It's how we got the OP shotgun, Breach SMGs, Breach ARs last time and by not buffing or nerfing around a bug is what lead to the mass driver to its comfortable spot right now without the bug.

Then explain why my large reppers on my soma never over repairs to the point I have to install a second small repper just to compliment and top off my measly 4k hp, they don't pulse every second.

Once you understand the conditions to where I get something working as normal maybe you can start to understand how harmful this bug is.

I only log in now to troll the forums for tears. None of the old vets are around anymore. Too bitter to bittervet.

This just shows how little iron knows about vehicles.

Armor Reps pulse ever second for 15 seconds. No matter what rep your doing or what accout your on your armor reps are going to pulse ever second for 15 seconds. Now their are times that bugs seem to either not give you any armor from the reps or the reps shut down half ways through. But that happens to everyone. It is not just some people that are effected. Most of the times people actually kill their reps themself because of CCPs ****** ass set up for selecting active modules alose for easily missing your intended target or having it go back to zero and killing a active module

But sorry maybe your just that stupid and still taking damage so you do not rep back fully or you have on one of the ****** as militant rep or advanced rep that gives around 4k HP

Enigma I have no idea where he is going to go. I think he is back to nerding on his PC games cause I never see him on PSN.

Me I am playing WoT with slap here and there. BF3 means I got it for free from PSN +. Last of Us some times. and any other free game they throw at me on PSN+

You can always add me on PSN Mav.

@ Alldin yes many good games with you.

Maybe one day CCP will get their heads out of their asses and work with the vehicle community better or get someone with better insight. And I can return for you to lob forge rounds at me.

Most of the people that cry for changes are the ones that ccp SHOULDN'T listen to. You guys have played FPSs for years is making you think you know everything. Your complaints are trying to change the core aspect of the game.

You guys ***** and complain, and you think that if you ask enough that you'll get what you want.

You're like that kid in the store asking mommy to get you something over and over again (Thinking you'll get what you want). Then when mommy says no, you get a temper tantrum and cry. CCP is doing a good job not listening to you people.


You think you know there is all to know about this game, well. You're wrong. This game won't and will never be a copy of another game.


You don't develop the game, so stop acting like you have infinite knowledge. CCP listens to good ideas. The ideas that people like you give are just horrible. Of course they won't listen to people who are the same ones saying this game is bad. What's the point in that?

You can call me a fanboi, stupid, ********, blind, or whatever, but I'm the one still playing the game, giving feedback. Rather than quitting the game, crying about it, then ***** at CCP for not listening.


Bye. Hope you come back when your high standards are satisfied.

I understand enough about vehicles to survive enough matches to net positive in all three currently available platforms at militia grade.

Bugs need to get fixed. The quicker the better. Because that will help paint a real picture of how badly things are and thus real and honest fixes to the balance can go through.

Did you factor in the shields resist to explosives and the diminishing returns on the damage mods

OP is a delusion freakin' moron. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Most of the people that cry for changes are the ones that ccp SHOULDN'T listen to. You guys have played FPSs for years is making you think you know everything. Your complaints are trying to change the core aspect of the game.

You guys ***** and complain, and you think that if you ask enough that you'll get what you want.

You're like that kid in the store asking mommy to get you something over and over again (Thinking you'll get what you want). Then when mommy says no, you get a temper tantrum and cry. CCP is doing a good job not listening to you people.


You think you know there is all to know about this game, well. You're wrong. This game won't and will never be a copy of another game.


You don't develop the game, so stop acting like you have infinite knowledge. CCP listens to good ideas. The ideas that people like you give are just horrible. Of course they won't listen to people who are the same ones saying this game is bad. What's the point in that?

You can call me a fanboi, stupid, ********, blind, or whatever, but I'm the one still playing the game, giving feedback. Rather than quitting the game, crying about it, then ***** at CCP for not listening.


Bye. Hope you come back when your high standards are satisfied.