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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1390
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:04:00 -
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Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
216
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:04:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things. u realize tht bug is wat kept armor tanks alive from av? now they will all die and burn. u really know nothing don't u? No I realize that bugs like these can cloud the picture up of what is really going on verses what the developers thinking what is SUPPOSED to go on. Maybe the damn bug lead us to the nerfs in the first place that brought them to the levels that they currently are. It's also probably related to other armor repair bugs such as the infinite repper or locked reppers. Either way there are plenty of things changing concerning shields armor and vehicles very soon and I will try to work to get the information out to you guys quickly as possible. Don't worry now you can depend on the LOGI's you guys laugh about when you support our nerf :) Armor tankers you will get repped by the Logi's you want us to become Bout time CCP listens and takes god mode away. Assuming CCP left you any CPU to equip it.
Will be tankers problem not mine :) |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1390
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:06:00 -
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Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
617
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things. Iron you do relize that this bug has kept armor tanks balanced with through the whole of dust. Ahh I forgot you did not get on CPM because of your smarts. You where just one of those that followed everything CCP did from the beginning and was their little IRC pet. Sorry it is not creating balancing issues. And never created this mass fail of imbalance CCP is creating. You know I rather see a working game than a broken one. I mean the lot of you sound like a bunch of idiots wanting the game to be broken on purpose.
Iron Wolf I have put more knowledgeable feedback on where vehicles need to go then you could imagine in your whole damn life.
You understand so little about vehicles it makes me laugh. You have always been a CCP dog and you know it. Saying I am a idiot is like saying you understand the game mechanics of vehicles.
Personally I can challenge any dev on ingame knowledge for vehicle mechanics and not a single one of them would know more then me. Yes they can repeat their code. And they can speak the numbers that they get back. But they understand so little about their game it is sad. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
42
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:10:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things. Iron you do relize that this bug has kept armor tanks balanced with through the whole of dust. Ahh I forgot you did not get on CPM because of your smarts. You where just one of those that followed everything CCP did from the beginning and was their little IRC pet. Sorry it is not creating balancing issues. And never created this mass fail of imbalance CCP is creating. You know I rather see a working game than a broken one. I mean the lot of you sound like a bunch of idiots wanting the game to be broken on purpose. Iron Wolf I have put more knowledgeable feedback on where vehicles need to go then you could imagine in your whole damn life. You understand so little about vehicles it makes me laugh. You have always been a CCP dog and you know it. Saying I am a idiot is like saying you understand the game mechanics of vehicles. Personally I can challenge any dev on ingame knowledge for vehicle mechanics and not a single one of them would know more then me. Yes they can repeat their code. And they can speak the numbers that they get back. But they understand so little about their game it is sad.
HOW DARE YOU INSULT A CPM MEMBER! |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
619
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:11:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV
The thing is CCP has stated so many times that they do not want proto tanks to be better then standard they want them to be specialized.
So sorry if you do not understand that word.
That means standard are a base copy. It is the middle ground. Proto tanks are not going to be god like tanks coming in able to handle proto AV any better really. They are just going to be able to do certain things better. At the cost of other benifits that standard tanks give you. So many people are hopeful that oh when this comes out they come out with proto vehicles life is going to be easier. Sorry they already have had 2 proto tanks out the enforcers and the marauders.
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
353
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:12:00 -
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LOL!! Feedback section is that way <----
See you real soon |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
955
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things. this just goes to prove that CCP doesn't actually test or try out vehicles they put in, they just throw out numbers and hope no one says anything about it. you know kindof like the turret issue when uprising first came out with and the pg skill. this isn't new by any means. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:13:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible.
Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms.
Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
302
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:13:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps. This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread. I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers. Lame..just lame, of course when I come back |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6328
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:15:00 -
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I understand enough about vehicles to survive enough matches to net positive in all three currently available platforms at militia grade.
Bugs need to get fixed. The quicker the better. Because that will help paint a real picture of how badly things are and thus real and honest fixes to the balance can go through. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1390
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:15:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV The thing is CCP has stated so many times that they do not want proto tanks to be better then standard they want them to be specialized. So sorry if you do not understand that word. That means standard are a base copy. It is the middle ground. Proto tanks are not going to be god like tanks coming in able to handle proto AV any better really. They are just going to be able to do certain things better. At the cost of other benifits that standard tanks give you. So many people are hopeful that oh when this comes out they come out with proto vehicles life is going to be easier. Sorry they already have had 2 proto tanks out the enforcers and the marauders.
Explain how "We want tanks to be specialized" excludes the possibility and tanks geared towards even more defense in a way that enforcers and specialized towards ranged battles See when you use this thing called logic your argument falls apart |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things.
The real thing ******* with a lot of balance in this game (dropsuits included) is that explosive damage is hitting at between 135% and 150% against armor, instead of the lol120% like CCP continues to insist that does. This has been tested in game by the players and found to be true, yet CCP continues to ingnore this.
To OP, should have skill some other than just tanks dude. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
619
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:18:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:I held high hopes like most vehicle players in this game. I have been around since April 2012. This post about armor rep bug for vehicles shows CCP is just a bunch of monkeys. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1074323#post1074323They have no idea what the problems are and do not listen to the player base. Armor reps on vehicles is only one of the two good modules out their the second being Active Armor Hardeners. Instead of relizing it balances and somewhat makes armor tanks work in this game they get the bright idea that owe its a bug we got to fix it. They do not have any understanding on how fixing that bug will throw armor tanks back to the stone age again. Making shield tanks the king of a dieing race again. Currently after this fix they plan comes out their will be no reason for competitive play in vehicles. None of the great teams will have a reason to run tanks in Faction warfare or Planetary Conquest. Already tanks are rare amongs the top corps. This is part of the reason why I am quitting. The other part is the fail to listen. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=606300#post606300Perfect example. They say they are looking into it and what happens is shield tanks got nerfed off the fighting block. I predicted it for CCP a month before they brought out their patch and yet they comment on the thread and a month later they do the opposite of what I said in my thread. I will miss playing with good players. People from SI, IMPs, IE, SYN, and PFBHz(old crew). But hopefully I will see you in other games. I relize dust is never going to reach its potential until they fire half the crew working on the game and pull in some devs that actually pay attention to whats going on in the game and not their ******* numbers. Lame..just lame, of course when I come back Ya nothing I can do. The game I once enjoyed has been ripped apart slowly from precursor build. There is no joy left in this game. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1390
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:18:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill
Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you?
******* idiot, QQ some more |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
620
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:21:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV The thing is CCP has stated so many times that they do not want proto tanks to be better then standard they want them to be specialized. So sorry if you do not understand that word. That means standard are a base copy. It is the middle ground. Proto tanks are not going to be god like tanks coming in able to handle proto AV any better really. They are just going to be able to do certain things better. At the cost of other benifits that standard tanks give you. So many people are hopeful that oh when this comes out they come out with proto vehicles life is going to be easier. Sorry they already have had 2 proto tanks out the enforcers and the marauders. Explain how "We want tanks to be specialized" excludes the possibility and tanks geared towards even more defense in a way that enforcers and specialized towards ranged battles See when you use this thing called logic your argument falls apart Enforcers prove my logic 100%. Enforcers are **** compared to standard tanks. Just to earn all that extra tank against AV you will be moving at a snails pace and unable to get away. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:22:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1390
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:26:00 -
[48] - Quote
Caeli SineDeo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im sorry Caeli you just show how little you understand game mechanics if you think standard tanks should be untouchable by proto AV The thing is CCP has stated so many times that they do not want proto tanks to be better then standard they want them to be specialized. So sorry if you do not understand that word. That means standard are a base copy. It is the middle ground. Proto tanks are not going to be god like tanks coming in able to handle proto AV any better really. They are just going to be able to do certain things better. At the cost of other benifits that standard tanks give you. So many people are hopeful that oh when this comes out they come out with proto vehicles life is going to be easier. Sorry they already have had 2 proto tanks out the enforcers and the marauders. Explain how "We want tanks to be specialized" excludes the possibility and tanks geared towards even more defense in a way that enforcers and specialized towards ranged battles See when you use this thing called logic your argument falls apart Enforcers prove my logic 100%. Enforcers are **** compared to standard tanks. Just to earn all that extra tank against AV you will be moving at a snails pace and unable to get away.
Wow you are just grasping at straws, saying enforcers prove your point that a potential defense specialization tank will suck is like saying you can kill a heavy with 3 bullets because you can do that to a scout Take a debate course and learn to back up your BS with something besides "Waaaaaaaaaah" |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
955
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I understand enough about vehicles to survive enough matches to net positive in all three currently available platforms at militia grade.
Bugs need to get fixed. The quicker the better. Because that will help paint a real picture of how badly things are and thus real and honest fixes to the balance can go through. i would love to see you in a mlt ds for a round and see how many times you would die. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:27:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more
The following is the damage output for proto swarms, with proficiency 5 and two damage mods, against an armor tank:
3,648.77 HP per volly
Even without the damage mods and only level three proficiency it is still three thousand. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1391
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:28:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u.
Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1391
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:31:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more The following is the damage output for proto swarms, with proficiency 5 and two damage mods, against an armor tank: 3,648.77 HP per volly Even without the damage mods and only level three proficiency it is still three thousand.
Did you factor in the shields resist to explosives and the diminishing returns on the damage mods |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
621
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:32:00 -
[53] - Quote
Just to put it in special kid language.
Current bug allows a total rep of 6210 that means a armor tank can take 2 extra volleys of swarms if you fix the bug you put the armor tanks back to 2,070 HP repped. That means a armor tank can not even gain the HP to defend against one extra volley of swarms that do 3k damage+
Armor tanks depend on reps to live. because they do not naturally repair their armor. If armor tanks get hit hard enough they also take burn damage. With the current set up. If they fix the bug Armor reps will actually have trouble repairing through the burn damage. It will take a total of 4 whole runs to repair a fully damage tank that puts a tank out of battle for a whole 2 mins to rep up if it has been put down into low armor.
Also I will be able to rep back less damage then a forge puts out and a rail turret. This means after the reps get fixed things will become useless almost because it will not even allow you the ability to take a extra hit. it is better to go buffer run through kill some people get out of their and use a logi tool out of sight or recall your tank and bring in a new one.
Sorry no idea where fixing this bug makes anything more balanced. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
955
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:32:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u. actually its more then your whole repper does if the nerf goes into effect. so one SL volley will do more then best armor repair will do. (2070(repper) vs proto SL 2574(no mods or skills applied but using nature damage bonus of 30%, for 20% its2376 )) |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:33:00 -
[55] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u. Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with
Your dead wrong dude. Open mouth insert foot. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:35:00 -
[56] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u. Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with yea cause 1k shields is so hard to get through. i'm ur basing all ur facts on the assumtion i have full shields which most of the time i don't because of random av attacks here and there. and i've died to proto av so many times it's stupid u want to know why. cause it's unbalanced cause u can hide everywhere and anywhere while i'm a gigantic target.
And tht is tht.
i have no counters to av. and av can destroy me instantly if they so desired. especially those goddamn AV nades. so overpowered. 2k per nade and can be spammed.
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
353
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:37:00 -
[57] - Quote
On the forums they crying while the mercenaries in New Eden are dying.
And its funny. All the dev gotta do is post in here and the whiners transform into brown nosers lol!
"Oh thanks CCP you really do listen"
Once they leave
"They better fix this game now!! How many times must ask you this CCP?! I'm leaving!!"
Yea...okay. Please...shut up. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
621
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible.
Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms.
Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill
Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more 3 k is half my health and more than one cycle of reps of repairing if this nerf goes through. ur a ******* idiot i'm not even going to bother. and considering i can't see them my resist won't even be on and by the time they are on the next swarms r on there way. XD i'm done arguing with u. Yeah and 3k is still more than a proto swarm does to you in one volley, hell its less than two proto volleys if they all hit against shields Learn how to do some basic ******* math before you start crying how you die so easily, if you got the numbers right and didnt make wildly inflated statements you might have some credibility and be worth arguing with Your dead wrong dude. Open mouth insert foot. Ya he is a guy that thinks he knows something about something. But delta is just another idiot.
And Son. WHen I have to invest 16m SP to fully spec down the gallente line of tanks it is hard to have extra SP to put into suits. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more The following is the damage output for proto swarms, with proficiency 5 and two damage mods, against an armor tank: 3,648.77 HP per volly Even without the damage mods and only level three proficiency it is still three thousand. Did you factor in the shields resist to explosives and the diminishing returns on the damage mods
1. The calculations were for armor which i am pretty sure he was talking about.
2. My calculation are never wrong. And if by some odd chance they were to be I would be the fist to correct them.
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Mintqueer
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:39:00 -
[60] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote: Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you?
******* idiot, QQ some more
Swarms do additional damage to armor Damage incrementa from damage mods and Proficiency level 5 increases exponentially and does not compounds Additional damage for being hit through the rear area of the tank or under
Dust has been in development for so long that speaking of balancing OLD weapons, OLD gear and OLD items at this point is just mere stupidity from CCP Shangai, but what is more silly is how CCP is working on "new" items when they can't even get what they have right now to be balanced. Personally I was about to quit during the week because I was really pissed that they keep changing things so that the SP that players hold devalues faster than Argentina's currency during their depression, but then I was like "hey, I still have my alt tanker with 10+ million SP in both armor andshield tanks" after reading the announcement I am done with Dust, I will uninstall and never look back at this grinding sauce. |
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