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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:06:00 -
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As I posted in another thread, CCP only listens to feedback on certain things. Other stuff they completely ignore ALL feedback, and do their own thing.
Going by spreadsheets and pub stats is what lead to Uprising being the way it is right now. A completely unbalanced, one dimensional, broken game.
The sad part is, I'm not even exaggerating |
Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
580
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. Then explain why my large reppers on my soma never over repairs to the point I have to install a second small repper just to compliment and top off my measly 4k hp, they don't pulse every second. Once you understand the conditions to where I get something working as normal maybe you can start to understand how harmful this bug is.
no... it deffenetly reps every second |
Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
580
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:14:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:As I posted in another thread, CCP only listens to feedback on certain things. Other stuff they completely ignore ALL feedback, and do their own thing. Going by spreadsheets and pub stats is what lead to Uprising being the way it is right now. A completely unbalanced, one dimensional, broken game. The sad part is, I'm not even exaggerating sadly :/ |
Exmaple Core
Who Gives A Flux
580
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Posted - 2013.07.21 19:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. nerfs or buffs that are based on bugs are the worst kind last time I checked. It's how we got the OP shotgun, Breach SMGs, Breach ARs last time and by not buffing or nerfing around a bug is what lead to the mass driver to its comfortable spot right now without the bug.
All of those were OP. The armor tank is currently balanced. Nerfing the armor reps will make them more UP than shield tanks. Shield tanks are UP. imbalance is bad. fixing this bug creates more imbalance than there is now. Can a tanker be any more clear??? |
fancy britches
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:17:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You do realize that the existence of this bug is probably what is screwing with trying to balance the damn things. Iron you do relize that this bug has kept armor tanks balanced with through the whole of dust. Ahh I forgot you did not get on CPM because of your smarts. You where just one of those that followed everything CCP did from the beginning and was their little IRC pet. Sorry it is not creating balancing issues. And never created this mass fail of imbalance CCP is creating. You know I rather see a working game than a broken one. I mean the lot of you sound like a bunch of idiots wanting the game to be broken on purpose. Iron Wolf I have put more knowledgeable feedback on where vehicles need to go then you could imagine in your whole damn life. You understand so little about vehicles it makes me laugh. You have always been a CCP dog and you know it. Saying I am a idiot is like saying you understand the game mechanics of vehicles. Personally I can challenge any dev on ingame knowledge for vehicle mechanics and not a single one of them would know more then me. Yes they can repeat their code. And they can speak the numbers that they get back. But they understand so little about their game it is sad.
wait what? He gives specific reasoning, and you get to just go harr harr harr I'm betta dan all joooo nubs. You expect to be taken seriously by anyone like that? |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI EoN.
347
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:31:00 -
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Can I have your isk? |
Alldin Kan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
420
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:47:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:As I posted in another thread, CCP only listens to feedback on certain things. Other stuff they completely ignore ALL feedback, and do their own thing. Going by spreadsheets and pub stats is what lead to Uprising being the way it is right now. A completely unbalanced, one dimensional, broken game. The sad part is, I'm not even exaggerating
Yeah... you're exaggerating a little. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:57:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. nerfs or buffs that are based on bugs are the worst kind last time I checked. It's how we got the OP shotgun, Breach SMGs, Breach ARs last time and by not buffing or nerfing around a bug is what lead to the mass driver to its comfortable spot right now without the bug. All of those were OP. The armor tank is currently balanced. Nerfing the armor reps will make them more UP than shield tanks. Shield tanks are UP. imbalance is bad. fixing this bug creates more imbalance than there is now. Can a tanker be any more clear??? I posted about MILITIA Soma versus prototype AV grenades Lai Day and folks ignored my post.
If the data contradicted the general consensus then just pretend the data does not exist?
I keep hearing three prototype AV grenades Lai Day to kill a MADRUGAR.
But why does a MILITIA Soma SURVIVE versus prototype AV grenades Lai Day ????????? |
Sephirian Fair
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
81
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. nerfs or buffs that are based on bugs are the worst kind last time I checked. It's how we got the OP shotgun, Breach SMGs, Breach ARs last time and by not buffing or nerfing around a bug is what lead to the mass driver to its comfortable spot right now without the bug.
Nerfs and buffs based on unintentional gameplay mechanics happen in multiple games. DOTA and League of Legends have it happen every so often where something unintentional has created a unique mechanic that the developer saw the need to work around because it added an extra dimension for play.
The drastic nerf to Breach AR's and SMG's after the E3 build was based around those weapons being the only weapons that could actually hit an enemy target because the hit detection was so damn awful. Rather than see how gameplay would change once hit detection was halfway decent, they nerfed them into oblivion and they remain in that state almost a year later.
CCP's balance passes are some of the most knee-jerk and heavy-handed of any game I have ever played, their QA team is damn terrible, and their communication remains nonexistent save for a two members of CCP. The CPM is just as bad, just regurgitating the same things that CCP says. SOONTM.
I want this ******* game to succeed or else I wouldn't have been here for over a year now. But it is becoming extremely frustrating at the lack of communication we've received compared to companies such as RIOT Games. Instead, they hide in their shell and continue to make similar mistakes one after another. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
638
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. Then explain why my large reppers on my soma never over repairs to the point I have to install a second small repper just to compliment and top off my measly 4k hp, they don't pulse every second. Once you understand the conditions to where I get something working as normal maybe you can start to understand how harmful this bug is. This just shows how little iron knows about vehicles.
Armor Reps pulse ever second for 15 seconds. No matter what rep your doing or what accout your on your armor reps are going to pulse ever second for 15 seconds. Now their are times that bugs seem to either not give you any armor from the reps or the reps shut down half ways through. But that happens to everyone. It is not just some people that are effected. Most of the times people actually kill their reps themself because of CCPs ****** ass set up for selecting active modules alose for easily missing your intended target or having it go back to zero and killing a active module
But sorry maybe your just that stupid and still taking damage so you do not rep back fully or you have on one of the ****** as militant rep or advanced rep that gives around 4k HP |
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
650
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Posted - 2013.07.22 01:58:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I only log in now to troll the forums for tears. None of the old vets are around anymore. Too bitter to bittervet.
There are still vets around
Anyways, I think CCP needs to realize that if they are fixing a bug that was balancing something they need to r-ebalance the tank at the same time as fixing the bug. The long multi-month waits between obviously in-balances has become worry some.
Kudos to Team True Grit on their communication and speed of updates. I would not have stuck around had it not been for their updates and talks in IRC where they constantly answer questions, ask for feedback and even offer some support. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2013.07.22 01:59:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:What is wrong? I am trying to fix the game because the thing is not everyone is experiencing the bug. Hey, Iron ;) umm... will you... please uninstall this game? Oh, and never come back to the forums, it's sad to look at your posts having severe lack of knowledge on gameplay balance. Just because there's a bug in a game does not necessarily mean it's bad. Then explain why my large reppers on my soma never over repairs to the point I have to install a second small repper just to compliment and top off my measly 4k hp, they don't pulse every second. Once you understand the conditions to where I get something working as normal maybe you can start to understand how harmful this bug is. This just shows how little iron knows about vehicles. Armor Reps pulse ever second for 15 seconds. No matter what rep your doing or what accout your on your armor reps are going to pulse ever second for 15 seconds. Now their are times that bugs seem to either not give you any armor from the reps or the reps shut down half ways through. But that happens to everyone. It is not just some people that are effected. Most of the times people actually kill their reps themself because of CCPs ****** ass set up for selecting active modules alose for easily missing your intended target or having it go back to zero and killing a active module But sorry maybe your just that stupid and still taking damage so you do not rep back fully or you have on one of the ****** as militant rep or advanced rep that gives around 4k HP
I thought you quit..... |
Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1241
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:09:00 -
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Caeli SineDeo wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sha Kharn Clone wrote:Caeli SineDeo I hate you an your IMP scum BUT please please dont uninstall just take a brake and come back when you hear good reports. Community needs you bro. Game cannot keep loosing people sadly it will ur right it cant keep losing ppl but ccp incompetence + game not being up to par + terrible for solo and new players is driving ppl away. Vets are gettin tired with CCP never listening, i used to be someone who defended ccp to a certain extent when there was room to defend them, also was one who gave alot of feedback constantly...now? i dont even care cuz its like feedback falls on deaf ears If all of the ppl working on DUST had the commitment and willingness to interact and listen to the community like Team True Grit then this game would be in a MUCH better state atm. Caeli hmu sometime dude where u and enigma goin btw? Enigma I have no idea where he is going to go. I think he is back to nerding on his PC games cause I never see him on PSN. Me I am playing WoT with slap here and there. BF3 means I got it for free from PSN +. Last of Us some times. and any other free game they throw at me on PSN+ You can always add me on PSN Mav. @ Alldin yes many good games with you. Maybe one day CCP will get their heads out of their asses and work with the vehicle community better or get someone with better insight. And I can return for you to lob forge rounds at me.
Confirming Enigma has given up on Dust, gone back to PC games.
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Ninjanomyx
One Who Bears Fangs At GOD
111
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:23:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Most of the people that cry for changes are the ones that ccp SHOULDN'T listen to. You guys have played FPSs for years is making you think you know everything. Your complaints are trying to change the core aspect of the game.
You guys ***** and complain, and you think that if you ask enough that you'll get what you want.
You're like that kid in the store asking mommy to get you something over and over again (Thinking you'll get what you want). Then when mommy says no, you get a temper tantrum and cry. CCP is doing a good job not listening to you people.
You think you know there is all to know about this game, well. You're wrong. This game won't and will never be a copy of another game.
You don't develop the game, so stop acting like you have infinite knowledge. CCP listens to good ideas. The ideas that people like you give are just horrible. Of course they won't listen to people who are the same ones saying this game is bad. What's the point in that?
You can call me a fanboi, stupid, ********, blind, or whatever, but I'm the one still playing the game, giving feedback. Rather than quitting the game, crying about it, then ***** at CCP for not listening.
Bye. Hope you come back when your high standards are satisfied.
1. Make a Game that punishes Choices. 2. Make Choice Paths separate to create SP Sink. 3. Create Branches to further SP Sink. 4. Delete Content for LULZ. 5. Make sure most expensive Path is the least desirable. 7. Nerf. 8. Keep Quiet. 9. Repeat Step 7. 10. ????? 11. PROFIT!!!!!!!
CCP Logic.....
Above is Blind Fanboi sippin' "Kool-Aid". IWS is bad @ Gaming & Logic. All 3 are wearing OP Duncecaps :P |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
176
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I understand enough about vehicles to survive enough matches to net positive in all three currently available platforms at militia grade.
Bugs need to get fixed. The quicker the better. Because that will help paint a real picture of how badly things are and thus real and honest fixes to the balance can go through.
New player Academy is not a solid testing ground for anything. Also you are a clueless hack, always have been. This game goes straight to **** the day you get your CCP Badge and are placed on the balancing department, we know its why your riding CCP so hard for. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
176
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:32:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Delta 749 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Seriously if a solo AV guy kills you then you are just a horrible driver and I say this as a guy thats killed tanks solo Sitting completely still trying to park on a spawn point with a blaster equipped tank is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Cruising around alone near a bunch of infantry cover is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Going solo in your tank at all without some infantry support is not good driving, its asking to get your **** wrecked Actually a great deal of what I see tank drivers doing is not good driving and its asking AV players to bend them over and **** them in the ass
On the occasion you see an actual decent tank driver with some decent infantry support they rule almost the entire ******* battlefield
"Waaah but I wanted to be the cool guy and go 50/0 without even my pain job getting scratched" For a ******* standard level vehicle tanks are fine where they are, you want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks thats cool, you want to talk about standard tanks standing up to squads of concentrated proto fire and you are a ******* moron U Sound like a ******* infantry ******* who wants tanks to be useless. as it stands these dumbass swarms followm me around the goddamn map doing 3k damage plus to me per volley and they u got these goddamn ******* av nades raping me and forge gunners who can hide everywhere. don't tell me how balanced it ******* is. As it stands swarms can shoot me from a tower or across the ******* map and are invisible. Or a person can get behind me throw 3 av nades in seconds before i can respond and ******* 1 shot me with a volley of swarms. Stop thinking TANKS R fine u dumbass infantry. and i can go 20/0 or 50/0 U know how WHEN THERE IS NO ******* AV. but when there is the slightest hint of AV i go 10/0 15/0 I mean **** i can do better as infantry. U think it takes skill to be in a proto suit and fire a duvolle into a bunch of scrubs and get the same amount of kills. Lol no skill u jump around and shoot the enemy brains out. 0 skill Heres what invalidates all your whining A swarm doing 3k to you A swarm of 6 missiles at a proto level with each missile doing 330 damage Thats 1980 damage for a swarm before the damage reduction from them hitting your shields first This is the swarm thats doing 3k damage to you? ******* idiot, QQ some more The following is the damage output for proto swarms, with proficiency 5 and two damage mods, against an armor tank: 3,648.77 HP per volly Even without the damage mods and only level three proficiency it is still three thousand. Did you factor in the shields resist to explosives and the diminishing returns on the damage mods
Dmg mods continue to stack and the diminishing returns does not work. Still displays 33% for 3 stack and we're told the numbers work as intended in game
Anyhoo someone just post a video already so dumbdumb can see it for himself.
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
176
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:48:00 -
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Rahl Draak wrote:OP is a delusion freakin' moron. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Said a random noob noone has ever heard from. Do us all a favor and go back to the kids table while the adults converse. |
MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
176
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:55:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Most of the people that cry for changes are the ones that ccp SHOULDN'T listen to. You guys have played FPSs for years is making you think you know everything. Your complaints are trying to change the core aspect of the game.
You guys ***** and complain, and you think that if you ask enough that you'll get what you want.
You're like that kid in the store asking mommy to get you something over and over again (Thinking you'll get what you want). Then when mommy says no, you get a temper tantrum and cry. CCP is doing a good job not listening to you people.
You think you know there is all to know about this game, well. You're wrong. This game won't and will never be a copy of another game.
You don't develop the game, so stop acting like you have infinite knowledge. CCP listens to good ideas. The ideas that people like you give are just horrible. Of course they won't listen to people who are the same ones saying this game is bad. What's the point in that?
You can call me a fanboi, stupid, ********, blind, or whatever, but I'm the one still playing the game, giving feedback. Rather than quitting the game, crying about it, then ***** at CCP for not listening.
Bye. Hope you come back when your high standards are satisfied.
We FPSers know more about game balance and mechanics of FPS then CCP, undisputable Fact. |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
1366
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Posted - 2013.07.22 02:59:00 -
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This thread has transformed into a rant/flamefest. Thank you for your constructive feedback on this specific issue, guys. Locking this down now. |
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