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Running with a sword and knives.... man that would be interesting wouldn't it lol

I'm not familiar with the "Wakizashi"

Unless they fix the hit detection for nova knifes and melee say bye-bye to this.

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Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe.

you mean like a lightsaber

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Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe.

Hm... variety is good, but I'm not sure they'd really fit in with the setting of DUST. ((EDIT-- By which I mean, we barely use swords now. It's a bit hard to believe they'd use them in the far off "Hey, we colonized other planets" future of the EVE universe. With Nova Knives, you can at least kinda halfway argue that you can use a knife in ways other than as a weapon, but even that falls apart when you consider how they work...)) Also, I think your fitting requirements are a bit low, but that may just be me overestimating what's a fair amount. It "feels" like they should have relatively high reqs based on how I've gathered the Nova Knives work-- by using an internal igniter and gravity field to make a "blade" of plasma. But then you look at the Nova Knife reqs, and they've actually got the second-lowest requirements of Sidearms, so... I dunno. No real opinion on swords, I guess.

I personally probably wouldn't use them, but I suppose they could be a pretty fun weapon to have on the field. Maybe give them something other than "better reach" to differentiate them from Nova Knives-- Compare the Flaylock and the Mass Driver-- the former fires straight, quickly, with a tight blast radius and high splash damage, while the latter arcs and has a larger clip and blast radius and much less splash. Perhaps a Halo Plasma Sword-esque "lunge" attack. It'd have to drain stamina quite a bit to prevent spamming for the quickstep.

As an aside, I always thought it was "wakazashi", with three As.

I've based the suggested fitting reqs on the differences of the light arms and the comparative fitting reqs of the nova knife. Also, the nova knives aren't plasma blades. When charged, the edge of the blade carries a high energy plasma charge to facilitate shield/armor penetration.

The differentiation is not just a larger blade, but a slower attack speed with a higher damage. Really want to differentiate it and generate a river of tears, give it a sweeping strike that hits all targets within a 165 degree ark across the aim reticule of the wielder's visual plane at full reach distance.

Nope. It's actually wakizashi with an "i".

Something I'd like to see is light arms classed charged weapons.

Example
Nova Sword: Basic / Advanced / Proto
Name: Wakizashi / Katana / Odachi
Damage: 150 / 250 / 333
Charge-Up Time: 2.25 sec
Reach* in meters: 1.14 / 1.33 / 1.52
Slot: Infantry Light Weapon
CPU: 16 / 39 / 69
PG: 3 / 7 / 11
Skill Reqs: Weaponry 3, Light Weapon Ops 3, Nova Sword Ops 1 / 3 / 5

Skill Tree
Nova Sword Ops: Unlocks at Light Weapon Ops 3. 3% reduction to charge time per level.
Nova Sword Prof: Unlocks at NS-Ops 3. 3% bonus to damage per level.
Nova Sword Wielding: Unlocks at NS-Prof 3. 2% bonus to attack speed per level.
Nova Sword Focusing: Unlocks at NS-Prof 4. 2% bonus to charge strike damage per level.

*Reach is not just blade length, it also assumes an average extended arm length from chest and shoulder meeting point to thumb webbing of aproximately .61 meters which should logically put the nova knife's reach around .81 meters.

I use Japanese swords for my example as they're the swords I'm most familiar with.

Heh.

Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.

If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P

Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.

Heh.

Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.

If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P

Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.

No swords or we lose Nova Knife.

- Shotty GoBang

Heh.

Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.

If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P

Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.

Heh.

Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.

If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P

Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.

+1 for a sword as a light weapon.

Better range and able to take out multiple opponents at once would be good. But it better make the user of the blade be more vulnerable (to prevent it being both way better than the shotgun and easier to use by a large margin) by causing damage to the user every time the user takes a swing (over heat damage would not need to prevent weapon switching or throwing grenades in this case probably) and the overheat period would only need to be roughly 1.4 seconds.

Having animations for the overheating event of the sword would not be necessary if the sword overheated with every swing and had a very short over heat period. The reason being that the animation would become too boring and monotonous.

If this weapon is put into the game it would be necessary to have certain game mechanics in place to prevent the sword being a weapon of preference over the shotgun. (don't want the shotgun becoming extinct)

Edit: I would be ok with other ways of making the sword user more vulnerable. (making the sword user more vulnerable would probably only be needed if the basic sword could OHK well fit medium frame proto suits and the proto sword OHKing fully tanked heavy proto suits)

Well nothing should be able to OHK a fully tanked heavy.
As for the over heat, it should only completely overheat if it's a full charge. This way you would choose between safe, quick strikes that deal low dmg or a dangerous heavy attack that could 2-hit kill a full tanked out heavy. (Flux + Full charge = assassination)