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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:12:00 -
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mmmm
Running with a sword and knives.... man that would be interesting wouldn't it lol
I'm not familiar with the "Wakizashi" |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 07:26:00 -
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bacon blaster wrote:*que music* DUST 514 It is 20,000 years into the future. Humanity has branched off and colonized the foreign galaxy called; "New Eden." It is a galaxy of war and conflict. 4 empires fight for dominance, but only one can stand. Across the galaxy, massive fleets are in a continuous state of battle and whole star systems burn. Man kind has become exceeding efficient at killing. And people still do it with sharp bits of metal, and pointy sticks. Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe.
You don't like it? Fine, don't use it. If you can't say something helpful or worth reading then turn off your PC as we really don't care about you...period.
@Shijima - oh ok I know what you're talking about, I just never knew what those were called. Thnx. |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:59:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Heh.
Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.
If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P
Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.
I must say, that is a very unexpected response... ya know... considering you name and all. But hey, everyone is entitled to there own opinions, right? |
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:01:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:No swords or we lose Nova Knife. - Shotty GoBang
GAH! You posted b4 me... still funny though o.o |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:49:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:+1 for a sword as a light weapon.
Better range and able to take out multiple opponents at once would be good. But it better make the user of the blade be more vulnerable (to prevent it being both way better than the shotgun and easier to use by a large margin) by causing damage to the user every time the user takes a swing (over heat damage would not need to prevent weapon switching or throwing grenades in this case probably) and the overheat period would only need to be roughly 1.4 seconds.
Having animations for the overheating event of the sword would not be necessary if the sword overheated with every swing and had a very short over heat period. The reason being that the animation would become too boring and monotonous.
If this weapon is put into the game it would be necessary to have certain game mechanics in place to prevent the sword being a weapon of preference over the shotgun. (don't want the shotgun becoming extinct)
Edit: I would be ok with other ways of making the sword user more vulnerable. (making the sword user more vulnerable would probably only be needed if the basic sword could OHK well fit medium frame proto suits and the proto sword OHKing fully tanked heavy proto suits)
Well nothing should be able to OHK a fully tanked heavy. As for the over heat, it should only completely overheat if it's a full charge. This way you would choose between safe, quick strikes that deal low dmg or a dangerous heavy attack that could 2-hit kill a full tanked out heavy. (Flux + Full charge = assassination) |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 04:49:00 -
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MMMMM Nova Sword *gargles* |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:35:00 -
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Chris F2112 wrote:Maybe instead of swords there should be heavy melee weapon?
You mean like hammers and axes? |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 11:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Going to keep bumping this because when we star fighting inside ships or mining rig, or on breaching missions how cool would it look to you guys if you saw a squad of fully armoured Amarrians led by a captain with a power spear?
LoL oh damn!
Now I'm amped for this game again |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:00:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote: I'm just spit balling here, but I have come up with a all new name for it too, I thought "Ninja" would work.
Laugh Out Loud! |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:07:00 -
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Doshneil Antaro wrote:Really swords? Hate to break it to you gents, but your on the wrong system with the wrong game. It's called Halo, it's on the xbox, you know where all of your kid buddy's play this sort of rubbish. Do the rest of the Dust 514 community a favor, and go play there. Your child antics are not needed here.
And your b**ching isn't needed either kind sir |
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:18:00 -
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If CCP decides to go with there Alt fire idea then Nova Knives should allow you to throw(and retrieve) one of your knives. Kinda helps with the whole "can't run while charging" issue as you could charge up then throw it at the enemy's head! Until recovered you will be stuck with only a single slash so one would have to be cautious when doing this. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:42:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Let me stop you right here :P The knives in dust are anything but a stealth weapon. Enemies can both hear when they're charged and an incredibly loud and distinct noise when you swipe them.
I greatly enjoy melee in dust, and the use of knives. Some bugs/issues make them annoying sometimes to use, but there is nothing more satisfying than strafing through some guy's fire with a knife out, and watching him try to avoid you because he knows he's about to get stabbed while he reloads. The only thing that even comes close is squishing people with a dropship.
However, I highly disagree that just because there's one melee weapon, that CCP needs to turn it into a completely separate class. We're getting three more racial variants of Knives in the not too distant future, which is enough for me. "SWORDS" is something that a lot of FPS games are trying to gimmick these days, and I'm not a fan. This is a gun game. If some wierdos like myself want to run up and spam the melee button, cool. However, CCP needs to focus their attention on the "Shooter" part of FPS.
I'd much rather have them spending time improving the movement and controls, and smoothening the animations we already have than trying to make the melee system more robust to accomodate a whole lineup of hand to hand weapons.
Besides... Something tells me that when MTACS come out, you're going to have all the fun in the world just clobbering things with a giant robot fist, and you'll forget all about something as silly as "SWORDS" :P
You would not have gotten bashed if you had said this in the first place. Doesn't change anyone's view on the matter but at least we can see your view as your opinion instead of "my way or the highway"
Oh and a source would be nice |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:48:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Niuvo wrote:knife the clone u just killed, he'll turn to a dull color. In his screen it should switch from clone failure imminent to CLONE TERMINATED lol Interesting...
yea this works, I do it whenever I kill a proto cuz I hate when ppl use proto gear in pub matches. I've even gotten myself killed to ensure that the guy never gets back up.
If they guy isn't taken out by a head shot or explosion then he can still get back up via needle. Troublesome reds should never be given the chance to get back up (FG, MD, Proto ANYTHING,etc).
P.S. If you see a red getting into a knife fight with a blue then just remember to NEVER GET IN THERE WAY! They will BOTH hate you for it. Ginja and minja have a code that they would rather not go against.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:04:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:I admit that I've never had my clone knifed when it was down, but I have had my clone shot and it never affected my clone failure timer.
The game is bugged and will, at times, not registure the bullets as hitting you but instead going through you. This happens when I shoot at corpses quit often. Knives and explosives have this problem a lot less then bullets.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:38:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Maybe not a japanese sword, but we could use something reminiscent of ninjas. Also a heavy weapon thats a hammer, does like 1.6k damage Any non AV weapon doing that kind of damage in one hit would be way WAY over powered.
well he did say "heavy weapon" meaning only a slow a** heavy could wield it in place of there HMG or FG.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:32:00 -
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Please reconsider racial Knives ^A similar topic.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
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