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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
292
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:39:00 -
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knife the clone u just killed, he'll turn to a dull color. In his screen it should switch from clone failure imminent to CLONE TERMINATED lol |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
275
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:59:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:knife the clone u just killed, he'll turn to a dull color. In his screen it should switch from clone failure imminent to CLONE TERMINATED lol
Interesting... |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
278
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:36:00 -
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Bump. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
294
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Posted - 2013.07.25 21:31:00 -
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There's a slight coloration to the knives after a charged hit, They turn blue, I think it should be more noticeable. check it out. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
296
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:28:00 -
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Bump... |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
251
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Posted - 2013.08.12 02:48:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Niuvo wrote:knife the clone u just killed, he'll turn to a dull color. In his screen it should switch from clone failure imminent to CLONE TERMINATED lol Interesting...
yea this works, I do it whenever I kill a proto cuz I hate when ppl use proto gear in pub matches. I've even gotten myself killed to ensure that the guy never gets back up.
If they guy isn't taken out by a head shot or explosion then he can still get back up via needle. Troublesome reds should never be given the chance to get back up (FG, MD, Proto ANYTHING,etc).
P.S. If you see a red getting into a knife fight with a blue then just remember to NEVER GET IN THERE WAY! They will BOTH hate you for it. Ginja and minja have a code that they would rather not go against.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
325
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Posted - 2013.08.12 08:26:00 -
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watching 1v1 knife fights are interesting. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1168
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Posted - 2013.08.12 08:27:00 -
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Still want to see Power Spears and Glaives. |
Lazy Scumbag
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
18
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:05:00 -
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Fed a nova knifer the butt of my AR today for the kill. That was hilarious. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
301
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:11:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Niuvo wrote:knife the clone u just killed, he'll turn to a dull color. In his screen it should switch from clone failure imminent to CLONE TERMINATED lol Interesting... yea this works, I do it whenever I kill a proto cuz I hate when ppl use proto gear in pub matches. I've even gotten myself killed to ensure that the guy never gets back up. If they guy isn't taken out by a head shot or explosion then he can still get back up via needle. Troublesome reds should never be given the chance to get back up (FG, MD, Proto ANYTHING,etc). P.S. If you see a red getting into a knife fight with a blue then just remember to NEVER GET IN THERE WAY! They will BOTH hate you for it. Ginja and minja have a code that they would rather not go against.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
I admit that I've never had my clone knifed when it was down, but I have had my clone shot and it never affected my clone failure timer. |
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
266
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:04:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:I admit that I've never had my clone knifed when it was down, but I have had my clone shot and it never affected my clone failure timer.
The game is bugged and will, at times, not registure the bullets as hitting you but instead going through you. This happens when I shoot at corpses quit often. Knives and explosives have this problem a lot less then bullets.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
333
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:23:00 -
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Killing corpses is fun and an insult. back to topic. I want a short sword!! or let me throw my knifes and then detonate. |
NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:58:00 -
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OP |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
107
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:09:00 -
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Maybe not a japanese sword, but we could use something reminiscent of ninjas. Also a heavy weapon thats a hammer, does like 1.6k damage |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
335
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:41:00 -
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G.I. Joe movie has ninjas with short swords, havent seen it though. |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
108
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:45:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:G.I. Joe movie has ninjas with short swords, havent seen it though. I wad thinking that, but was afraid to comment on outside influences as 'this is new eden' doesn't mesh with cod or gi joe even... Made me laugh nonetheless |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
108
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:47:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:G.I. Joe movie has ninjas with short swords, havent seen it though.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
307
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:34:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:G.I. Joe movie has ninjas with short swords, havent seen it though.
Short Swords? You mean the Ninja-To or Shinobi-Katana. It didn't actually exist until it was created for pseudo-historic movies in Japan in the 1960s and made it's first appearance in America via "Black Belt" magazine in 1973. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
307
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:37:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Maybe not a japanese sword, but we could use something reminiscent of ninjas. Also a heavy weapon thats a hammer, does like 1.6k damage
Any non AV weapon doing that kind of damage in one hit would be way WAY over powered. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
273
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:38:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Maybe not a japanese sword, but we could use something reminiscent of ninjas. Also a heavy weapon thats a hammer, does like 1.6k damage Any non AV weapon doing that kind of damage in one hit would be way WAY over powered.
well he did say "heavy weapon" meaning only a slow a** heavy could wield it in place of there HMG or FG.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
309
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:42:00 -
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Weekly bump. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:44:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Something I'd like to see is light arms classed charged weapons.
Example Nova Sword: Basic / Advanced / Proto Name: Wakizashi / Katana / Odachi Damage: 150 / 250 / 333 Charge-Up Time: 2.25 sec Reach* in meters: 1.14 / 1.33 / 1.52 Slot: Infantry Light Weapon CPU: 16 / 39 / 69 PG: 3 / 7 / 11 Skill Reqs: Weaponry 3, Light Weapon Ops 3, Nova Sword Ops 1 / 3 / 5
Skill Tree Nova Sword Ops: Unlocks at Light Weapon Ops 3. 3% reduction to charge time per level. Nova Sword Prof: Unlocks at NS-Ops 3. 3% bonus to damage per level. Nova Sword Wielding: Unlocks at NS-Prof 3. 2% bonus to attack speed per level. Nova Sword Focusing: Unlocks at NS-Prof 4. 2% bonus to charge strike damage per level.
*Reach is not just blade length, it also assumes an average extended arm length from chest and shoulder meeting point to thumb webbing of aproximately .61 meters which should logically put the nova knife's reach around .81 meters.
I use Japanese swords for my example as they're the swords I'm most familiar with. This would take CQC to a whole new level :D +1 |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3650
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Posted - 2013.08.20 21:03:00 -
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bacon blaster wrote:*que music* DUST 514 It is 20,000 years into the future. Humanity has branched off and colonized the foreign galaxy called; "New Eden." It is a galaxy of war and conflict. 4 empires fight for dominance, but only one can stand. Across the galaxy, massive fleets are in a continuous state of battle and whole star systems burn. Man kind has become exceeding efficient at killing. And people still do it with sharp bits of metal, and pointy sticks. Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe.
20,000 years into the future and the Minmatar are still using duck tape as armor repairers. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
157
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Posted - 2013.08.20 21:17:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Heh.
Personally, I'm not a fan of swords in FPS games that are supposed to be about 'gun game'. While it's incredibly satisfying to run up and melee someone by showing them that you can out-strafe their gungame... I would much prefer if CCP stayed away from the crappy SPACE NINJA gimmick that seems to weasel it's way into every sci-fi game imaginable.
If you wanna play a gun game with swords and a proper melee system.. Play warframe. It has an engine actually designed for that sort of thing, and it's pretty damn fun :P
Swords in dust seem like nothing more than an unnecessary gimmick to me. Knives were mostly acceptable because every solider in the history of pretty much ever, carries a knife. It's standard gear. The dual wielding decision was a bit meh, but I can deal. Besides... I've said in the past. The day CCP puts in swords, is the day I quit dust. That's not to be read as an ultimatum to CCP or anything. If they want to put in swords, let them put in swords.That will just be the last straw for me personally, and I won't be able to take the game seriously anymore if they try to cater to the SPACE NINJA crowd.
So by getting swords we no longer have to worry over Nova Ninja, enemy of sidearms? CCP, sword please! Just one. It doesn't even need to be good at what it does. |
bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
144
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Posted - 2013.08.20 23:24:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:bacon blaster wrote:*que music* DUST 514 It is 20,000 years into the future. Humanity has branched off and colonized the foreign galaxy called; "New Eden." It is a galaxy of war and conflict. 4 empires fight for dominance, but only one can stand. Across the galaxy, massive fleets are in a continuous state of battle and whole star systems burn. Man kind has become exceeding efficient at killing. And people still do it with sharp bits of metal, and pointy sticks. Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe. 20,000 years into the future and the Minmatar are still using duck tape as armor repairers.
Former semi mechanic. Duct tape fixes everything. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1378
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Posted - 2013.08.20 23:47:00 -
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bacon blaster wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:bacon blaster wrote:*que music* DUST 514 It is 20,000 years into the future. Humanity has branched off and colonized the foreign galaxy called; "New Eden." It is a galaxy of war and conflict. 4 empires fight for dominance, but only one can stand. Across the galaxy, massive fleets are in a continuous state of battle and whole star systems burn. Man kind has become exceeding efficient at killing. And people still do it with sharp bits of metal, and pointy sticks. Really, guys, you want to go through a scifi game with swords? Go play warframe. 20,000 years into the future and the Minmatar are still using duck tape as armor repairers. Former semi mechanic. Duct tape fixes everything. Have you not seen the ceremonial weapons of the Amarrians? |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
628
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Posted - 2013.08.21 01:55:00 -
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A wakizashi is the short sword paired with the katana.
As to the OP's idea I have to say no. The whole space samurai idea is not only stupid but totally over played. Also, while knives make sense as a standard infantry tool (more for utility but also a weapon of last resort), swords have very little utility on a sci-fi battle field.
What would having swords bring to the game? A slightly longer reach for hand to hand combat? That really isn't a dramatic change and definitely won't increase survivability in hand to hand combat. I can still back away and throw tons of (insert deadly projectile here) at you. Also since there are no block/parry mechanics build into the game melee battles are just glorified slap fights (not a ton of fun for anyone).
That being said what we are left with is that you want to add swords, Japanese style swords in particular, to add more flavor to the game. I for one don't need more action movie/anime chich+Žs built into the game. Lets push CCP to build solid core mechanics, finish all the suits and planned vehicles, add in the ability to interact with EVE more fully, develop the non-fps elements of the game and then we can start talking flavor.
Question: What is with the modern obsession with Japanese swords? You know that the japanese did/do other really neat stuff too right? Dueling holiday shrines for example. Why don't young men in our country have a strange enduring love of this (kenka tanabata festival incase you were wondering), it is so much cooler than the swords. Or what about the amazing Japanese tatoos or even their great food (there is so much more to it than sushi). Come on folks lets end this ninja/samurai obsession here and now, its dated and silly. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
309
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Posted - 2013.08.21 02:29:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:A wakizashi is the short sword paired with the katana. As to the OP's idea I have to say no. The whole space samurai idea is not only stupid but totally over played. Also, while knives make sense as a standard infantry tool (more for utility but also a weapon of last resort), swords have very little utility on a sci-fi battle field. What would having swords bring to the game? A slightly longer reach for hand to hand combat? That really isn't a dramatic change and definitely won't increase survivability in hand to hand combat. I can still back away and throw tons of (insert deadly projectile here) at you. Also since there are no block/parry mechanics build into the game melee battles are just glorified slap fights (not a ton of fun for anyone). That being said what we are left with is that you want to add swords, Japanese style swords in particular, to add more flavor to the game. I for one don't need more action movie/anime chich+Žs built into the game. Lets push CCP to build solid core mechanics, finish all the suits and planned vehicles, add in the ability to interact with EVE more fully, develop the non-fps elements of the game and then we can start talking flavor. Question: What is with the modern obsession with Japanese swords? You know that the japanese did/do other really neat stuff too right? Dueling holiday shrines for example. Why don't young men in our country have a strange enduring love of this (kenka tanabata festival incase you were wondering), it is so much cooler than the swords. Or what about the amazing Japanese tatoos or even their great food (there is so much more to it than sushi). Come on folks lets end this ninja/samurai obsession here and now, its dated and silly.
First... In this game, knives either have no utility or light class melee weapons would have just as much utility as the knives. Also, in case you haven't noticed, Dust mercs are anything but standard infantry. As has been said many times by many people, this is a game where reality has very little to do with the way of things. And "Space Samurai/Ninja" has nothing to do with anything as far as my original post is concerned.
Second... Few hand to hand attacks come at you head on from across wide open terrain while you are already looking at them. Not to mention that we have a dropsuit (Minmatar Scout) that's specifically designed with a melee damage modifier. If light class melee weapons are such a dumb idea, why make a dropsuit that could make good use of them? Want to eliminate melee, fine. Make the damage bonus apply towards SMGs instead.
Third... You missed that part that says that I used these weapons as an example because they are what I'm familiar with. Any other type of light classed charged weapon would be fine with me. I'd be fine with Gladius, Scimitar, and a Hand and a Half Sword (Yes I know I mixed nationalities.).
Fourth... Yes, the Japanese do a lot of really neat stuff like what you mentioned above, however, food, festivals, and ceremonies have nothing to do with the mechanics and weapons of the game. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
376
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Posted - 2013.08.21 05:05:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:A wakizashi is the short sword paired with the katana. As to the OP's idea I have to say no. The whole space samurai idea is not only stupid but totally over played. Also, while knives make sense as a standard infantry tool (more for utility but also a weapon of last resort), swords have very little utility on a sci-fi battle field. What would having swords bring to the game? A slightly longer reach for hand to hand combat? That really isn't a dramatic change and definitely won't increase survivability in hand to hand combat. I can still back away and throw tons of (insert deadly projectile here) at you. Also since there are no block/parry mechanics build into the game melee battles are just glorified slap fights (not a ton of fun for anyone). That being said what we are left with is that you want to add swords, Japanese style swords in particular, to add more flavor to the game. I for one don't need more action movie/anime chich+Žs built into the game. Lets push CCP to build solid core mechanics, finish all the suits and planned vehicles, add in the ability to interact with EVE more fully, develop the non-fps elements of the game and then we can start talking flavor. Question: What is with the modern obsession with Japanese swords? You know that the japanese did/do other really neat stuff too right? Dueling holiday shrines for example. Why don't young men in our country have a strange enduring love of this (kenka tanabata festival incase you were wondering), it is so much cooler than the swords. Or what about the amazing Japanese tatoos or even their great food (there is so much more to it than sushi). Come on folks lets end this ninja/samurai obsession here and now, its dated and silly. I don't want a two-handed sword. A one-handed short blade is enough. Or better yet, upgrade the knives. So they can look cool and feel cool. That added sound effect sounds weak. They need to put some visible color to the blades, to indicate they are fully charged! We are going to get racial knives too. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
310
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:23:00 -
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This week's bump. |
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