it would make no sense to hit you full speed and you to get away or kill me afterwards

it would make no sense to hit you full speed and you to get away or kill me afterwards

They're treated the same way in Battlefield games, except you can also drive straight at a team mate, then bail out and let the vehicle coast into them to kill them.

-In most other games i can kill the driver with 1 clean shot to the head
-In most other games i can kill the vehicle before it reaches me
-In most other games i can kill the owner and then get into the car without it ever slowling down
-In most other games driving over someone is a last resort kind of action
-In most other games i can outmove / Outturn the vehicle on foot
-In most other games the vehicle needs to be doing near full-speed to get a kill
-In most other games if i stub my pinkey toenail to the side of the car, it wont hit me for 10.000 damage
-In most other games the front bumper of the vehicle isnt its main weapon system
-In most other games there are not 6 of them trying to mow you over on a 25 feet piece of land

I can find some more if i put in some more effort then 60 seconds but i guess this will have to do

Talking physics and logic in the sci fi space shooter about immortal clones who jump out of big space ships and land on planets unscathed.

Drawing the line at killer car bumpers though, regardless of game balance.

What this guy said, its a giant mashed potato of issues that come together in one horrible whole. I'll add two more:

-In most other games vehicles show up on radar well before they are anywhere near you
-In most other games high speed, high maneuverability vehicles are easily damaged4 by small arms fire thereby creating equal levels of risk for the driver, rocket launchers are reserved for tanks.

Basically the only people defending the LAVs "as is" are people who lack the ability to compete using shooter skills, but are enjoying having a KRD higher than 0.02

Comparing it to games without vehicles is pointless. Console has nothing to do with it. Do you play a lot of FPS games?

the only people "attacking" LAV's are the greedy ones that care only to shoot and nothing else , go CoD

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-In most other games the vehicle needs to be doing near full-speed to get a kill

ok , then lets remove physics and logics , your bullets wont be able to kill anyone

btw u need to press X when you jump from MCC , if you dont you take damage or die

i dont understand why do you keep continue your charade but feel free to try again

And how easy do jeeps or any vehicle for that matter go down in BF3 ? 1 shoulder fired RPG = dead. 1 javelin = dead, 1 land mine = dead. You might survive a tank shot jist long enough to bail, and you may survive one hit from other AV but even so the vehicle is done for. **** a M203 Would disable the open top Jeeps in one hit!

Spending a whole match attempting to run people down in BF3 will only result in a terrible score, many death and 11 pissed off teammates because you weren't PTFO'ing.

Honestly IMO you're a fool for even comparing the two, Balance is handled entirely different on BF3.

Most games seem to get along just fine with jeeps and warthogs running people over, what is it about Dust's mechanics that make this an unacceptable phenomenon? When you run someone over in Halo or Battlefield the community doesn't cry out in anguish and demand nerfs, they deal with it and pay more attention.

I propose a simple solution to all of the complaints, a large increase on the scan profile of ALL LAVs so as to make them always show up on the mini-map. I think that with that much warning, if you cannot get out of the way then you deserve to die.

Thoughts on the issue and on my solution?

Murder Taxi wasn't a huge issue before they buffed the LAV health by 70%. Pre-buff the mechanics were similar to other shooters that it wasn't an issue - 1-2 standard AV nades took out a standard or militia LAV. Higher tier LAV's took more hits or higher tier AV. Now, I can barely scratch a militia LAV with AV nades and that moron driving a FREE LAV just racks up kills like nobodies business.

Solution - remove the health buff from free LAV's, lower it for the other tiers. Limit the number of Free LAV's per team and add collision damage for all (even friendly).

In other FPS games the car just dents your pride, in Dust it completely destroys my wallet. And sometimes those cars drive like they had electric engines - I'm shooting people feeling like a badass and a bumble bee just pins me on a rock

One other thought..

BF3 is mostly a game of skill. Anyone besides a COD fanboy would agree. For the most part all players are on equal footing regarding weapons minus a few small upgrades like scopes, extended mags, etc. Everyone has the same HP, movements speed, etc.

Dust is a game of skill points and ISK. People who are not so good at killing the traditional way will resort to any means necessary to obtain as many SP as they can. Some drive tanks, others logibro, and the really Terribad scum of the earth literally drive around the entire match in a nearly indestructible OHK machine of death.


Now I know we have all run someone over with an LAV from time to time heading to where we need to be. The simple and easiest short term solution would be to eliminate SP earned for running someone over.