its not really a big problem as someone who uses proto forge guns and uses vehicles
the only REAL problem with them is the skyscraper/building they're standing on 90% of the time which makes
forge gunning easy mode as there's pretty much nothing that can stop them
since the ONLY way to get up there is via dropship and they'll just shoot it down on sight.

or you can try to kill him with a sniper but have you EVER seen a sniper kill a heavy in one hit?
and hes usually got a logi up there with him that can just rep him
so he can get back to his easy mode forge sniping.

the only way i see this being fixed short term is adding a ladder to every building so its at least possible to get to them
without a dropship.

long term i would love to see either stairs with all the climbing ability of a ladder but you can shoot people while
climbing them.

or an elevator just like a ladder but without the vulnerability.

i understand that this is in fact a valid tactic but my problem with it is it counters its only counters.

Team of snipers, Get 2-3 with proto guns and we can take Heavies down before they can rep.

Hahaha. It's just that easy.
Coordinate 3 guys with proto sniper rifles. Gee, why didn't anyone think of that before.

I think the real solution is mother ******* jet packs.

Hahaha. It's just that easy.
Coordinate 3 guys with proto sniper rifles. Gee, why didn't anyone think of that before.

I think the real solution is mother ******* jet packs.

When your in a good corp with good snipers, it can be that easy. But if we could get mother fracking jet packs, I'd be all for that also....

My corp sucks.

I don't think the answer should ever be "have a spare couple million skill points for the only 1 answer to the problem."

A decent DS can do a fly-by and drop people onto the building.

We want them nerfed cuz the only thing we hate more than foreguns in tall places is trying to stop them from getting there.

And a decent Forge gunner will never ever let that happen.

Do you fly dropships? Tell me how your 600k-1mil isk dropship does against a forge gun... bet it doesn't last more than 2 shots.

When you all are flying your derpships up to my position to take me out, do you come straight at me or do you even try to sneak around the backside?

If I am on a skyscraper looking over the edge down at an objective or tank, that leaves 3 other sides of the building that I cannot see.. and at least 1/2 the battlefield that is not in my direct line of sight. Yes I can hear your dropship, sometimes its hard to hear over the ambiant noise created by uplinks/nanohives sitting at my feet. Most dropships I see trying to counter my position just come straight at me.. no maneuvering.. no sneaking.. and generally very bad pilots who dont know how to quickly get in, land, and unload passengers. Do you run Afterburners and Thrusters (whatever mod that adds 10% torque)?

Someday CCP will listen to all your complaints and either nerf the forge gun, or nerf the ability to get up high, instead of buffing ******* dropships like they need to do.

This has never been about the forge gun... or people positioning themselves up on roofs... it when the two are combined that people simply throw their hands up and give up. More about people who dont think about that position when they enter a battle, and then get pissed off when someone else got up their and they have neither the brainpower, skill, ability or even willingness to go up there and counter it.

- Snipers? waaaah its too hard to kill heavy with a sniper. And what do you MEAN I should have another sniper.. that would be teamwork... whats teamwork lol that doesnt belong in a FPS game right?
- Dropships? waaaah forge gunner will just one shot me, whats the point?
- Fly your dumbass up there before they do at the beginning of the match? waaaah this tactic is lame, all I wanna do is Duvolle on the ground, why should I have to go up there and fight those noobs who will eventually destroy my team?
- Orbital? waaaah why should i have to waste my orbital on one guy destroying my team.. he is OP NERF HIM AND HIS BUILDING then give me cookies!

Sneak the DShip around? Well you must be a terrible forge gun sniper, you can easily see the RDV dropping the DShip off, puts you on high alert. Hoping you aren't paying attention is NOT a counter.

Sniping is inconsistent as you cannot get to equal ground so the forge can just pull behind roof edge. Plus you want 2+ snipers to deal with a poorly designed mechanic?

Orbitals are inconsistent at high altitude, they often will do NOTHING. Plus it takes time to get an orbital.

Getting up to the area before them is great as a preemptive strike but doesn't remove the fact that there is no real counter

They shouldn't nerf the forge or nerf the ability to get on top of buildings via dropships but need to fix a poorly designed mechanic. Give troops a way onto the roof and this tactic will disappear as forgers lose the advantage.

its not really a big problem as someone who uses proto forge guns and uses vehicles
the only REAL problem with them is the skyscraper/building they're standing on 90% of the time which makes
forge gunning easy mode as there's pretty much nothing that can stop them
since the ONLY way to get up there is via dropship and they'll just shoot it down on sight.

or you can try to kill him with a sniper but have you EVER seen a sniper kill a heavy in one hit?
and hes usually got a logi up there with him that can just rep him
so he can get back to his easy mode forge sniping.

the only way i see this being fixed short term is adding a ladder to every building so its at least possible to get to them
without a dropship.

long term i would love to see either stairs with all the climbing ability of a ladder but you can shoot people while
climbing them.

or an elevator just like a ladder but without the vulnerability.

i understand that this is in fact a valid tactic but my problem with it is it counters its only counters.

I cant shoot two dropships at once, ever think of that. But that would require teamwork and coordination, are you up for the challenge? Or do you feel you should not have to stoop to the low low levels of strategy, teamwork and coordination.... are you above that idea? Is taking the tactically advantageous highground beneath you? Based on all the forum complaining, it sounds like it might be.

Shoot if I keep giving you guys all my secrets I may actualy have to watch out on my rooftop in the future.

Come get some, my SMG is waiting for you :P

You'd rather waste two dropships trying to get a tower forge gunner than just pull out your sniper fit and kill him?

Lmao.

Good luck getting your ships up against an Ishokune Assault, 4 million ISK says any forge gunner worth his salt toasts two if not three dropships trying to get to him. I know I can do it with my basic Assault Forge.

Stop theorycrafting. Everything I have suggested you haters to try I have personally used to counter forge gunners. And others have used to counter me when I am forge gunning. Does it work 100% of the time? Of course not, but thats what makes a game challenging. You want to be able to counter the forge gunner/roof top tactic easily.. sorry bub, you may actually have to try a bit harder.

its not really a big problem as someone who uses proto forge guns and uses vehicles
the only REAL problem with them is the skyscraper/building they're standing on 90% of the time which makes
forge gunning easy mode as there's pretty much nothing that can stop them
since the ONLY way to get up there is via dropship and they'll just shoot it down on sight.

or you can try to kill him with a sniper but have you EVER seen a sniper kill a heavy in one hit?
and hes usually got a logi up there with him that can just rep him
so he can get back to his easy mode forge sniping.

the only way i see this being fixed short term is adding a ladder to every building so its at least possible to get to them
without a dropship.

long term i would love to see either stairs with all the climbing ability of a ladder but you can shoot people while
climbing them.

or an elevator just like a ladder but without the vulnerability.

i understand that this is in fact a valid tactic but my problem with it is it counters its only counters.