Haha I love that forge gun snipers defend this so vehemently.

NO STAIRS RAWR!!!

Dropships come in quicker? Still 15 secs unless you are 1 of the first to call in. You still have time to notice it, watch some tank snipers and you will see what I mean. Again you not paying attention does not equal counter.

I think we are talking about different towers as the ones im thinking of are the tallest thing in that map. Snipers cannot get on equal level.

I've still had inconsistency with orbitals at great height, perhaps you have better luck.

Again I'm not calling for nerfs I just want ladders and stairs, it makes 0 sense why all buildings don't have these.

You suggest to use two dropships to try and fly up to a tower forge gunner.

I suggest sniping him.

And I'm the one theory crafting?

Puff puff pass bro, you're preaching to choir. I've done just about everything there is to do in this game, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I've got a tad more in game experience under my belt than you.

Have fun though. And I'm not bitching, when have I bitched about forge tower snipers? If anything I've said it's the best part of 1.2 because of the sheer amount of laughter it invokes in me as I rain hell upon the foolish mortals below.

Get better with orbitals.

Forge guns need damage decay over a distance. Keep the splash radius, but lower the splash damage a little.

You heard it here folks.

The counter to tower forge snipers is in fact, orbitals!!

Praise be to ER-Bullitt, lord of all the tactix.

LOL... aww man, you done with your counter argument now?

Gonna pick pieces of my post and come up with a nifty little counter to make yourself look smart?

Dust Fiend, Mr. Veteran, you know I was responding to the guy who says he still has problems placing orbitals on roofs. Therefore he needs to get better. One orbital centered on a roof will take out everyone up there including all equipment. Happens to me on a daily basis.

Come on now, I never said that was the ONLY counter to the forge/tower issue you guys are having, but it is one of them.

Come on.

EDIT: Oh wait, before you say anything master Dust player extraordinaire.. I have admitted that yes, on a daily basis, I die to an orbital. I am sorry, but I realize I am a noob and only noobs die to orbitals.. please forgive me oh veteran of veterans. lol

Dude, my range is 300m. Are you saying you are too inept to call a dropship outside of the 300m range? And no, if you call in a vehicle in the middle of a battle it does not take 15 seconds.. try 5. Do you even play this game? These maps are like 1km long or more... wow.

Yes, I agree regarding towers you have no idea what you are talking about. Get good. I have given you noobs all the advice I can for now... the next step is for you to give me your account password so I can play the game for you while you watch.

Get better with orbitals.

Ladders, stairs, whatever you need to compete. Easiest fix to this consistent QQ is to buff dropships.. But then you tards will stil be too lazy to learn how to fly them or... wait for it... call them in outside of the forge gunners range. WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP TO CALL IN MY VEHICLE? I WANT TO CALL IT IN HERE AND THAT BIG BAD FORGE GUN MONSTER KEEPS EATING THEM UP! DADDY HELPPPP!

You don't shoot a Dship as it is brought in, you see it and think hmm maybe I should watch out for that DShip. Seriously do you play the game? Haha. Still much longer than 5 secs I assure you.

Every other argument you didn't even refute so I'll assume by your caps you are just trying to SPEAK VERY LOUDLY!

You give plausible counters to the tactic but none of them are practical. I could just call in 10 DSHIPS to come get you too, losses be damned.

You and I both know you would not do this if you were more approachable. Get good at ground game!

And why arent they practical. Have you tried them? No, you havent... how do I know this, because if you were any good you wouldnt be complainig you would be out playing and practicing your DS piloting skills. 4 million isk says you dont know how to fly. I will gladly teach you.

My ground game is just fine, thanks. Sorry if I enjoy the challenge of different playsyltes and blowing **** up... its fun, gets me lots of WP and tons of ISK for my teammates so they can buy more suits and take care of the ground while I watch everything else.

Are you kidding me, I'm horrible compared to most vets. Still far better than most of the playerbase...somehow....

Anyways, I didn't say it was the only counter either. Just saying, blowing an orbital on a guy you could have just sniped seems.....pointless. Unless you've already won, then by all means.

I'm not counter arguing because I'm not arguing.

I'm just making points and having a good time, relax bro, it's a game.

Yup, forge gun rooftop sniping is SO challenging.

Don't know why your so against having stairs or a ladder to get to the top of ridiculously tall buildings. Your dropship would get you there faster, taking the ladders is asking to get sniped or shot down, and you sound pro enough to be able to adapt to there being a flight of stairs leading to your camp site.

Ive seen people blow orbitals on a redline rail tanker who is 2-0... Just because you arent getting 6-7-8 kills with your orbital doesnt mean it shouldnt be put to good use... and if that rooftop forge sniper is giving your team enough trouble, then take him out with whatever means you have available... or dont, and just continue crying about it.

I am pleanty of relaxed, its alot more fun to correct you noobs than actually do my job. Only a few more hours before I can make you all cry some more :)

Again while plausible an orbital is not practical. One must earn these and what do you do if you don't have one?

I'm sorry but paper route does not equal job.

Again while plausible an orbital is not practical. One must earn these and what do you do if you don't have one?

I'm sorry but paper route does not equal job.

I hate Forge Guns because they can pop out, hit my HAV, dealing well over 2k damage and quickly pop back in again and begin to charge another shot.

Of course this isn't a problem with the Breach, but with the Assault and Basic its pretty annoying, give it damage fall off, make it lose accuracy the longer a Charge is held, the Assault stats seem to be flipped, it does more damage than the Basic, and with a quicker charge time with the only drawback being a charge cannot be held.

On Mass Drivers its pretty much the opposite, Assault has a larger Splash radius but with less Direct and Splash damage.

So flip the Assault and Basic damage so it matches other weapons in the game.

or you can try to kill him with a sniper but have you EVER seen a sniper kill a heavy in one hit?

OBs are easy to earn, especially with the new 6 man squads, even with 5 players, all everyone has to do is earn 500 WP each, which is pretty goddamn easy, I got two with my squad today.

When you all are flying your derpships up to my position to take me out, do you come straight at me or do you even try to sneak around the backside?

You have to be a worthless player to NOT hear the map-filling god-aweful noise that announces to the entire universe "HEY! There's a dropship in the map!" and not look accordingly.

Even in my noisy HAV I always know when there's a dropship, and have never been surprised once.

You're a forgegunner just camping a roof, lord knows you are paying even more attention to your surroundings then some HAV on the move.

I hate Forge Guns because they can pop out, hit my HAV, dealing well over 2k damage and quickly pop back in again and begin to charge another shot.
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Of course this isn't a problem with the Breach, but with the Assault and Basic its pretty annoying, give it damage fall off, make it lose accuracy the longer a Charge is held, the Assault stats seem to be flipped, it does more damage than the Basic, and with a quicker charge time with the only drawback being a charge cannot be held.

On Mass Drivers its pretty much the opposite, Assault has a larger Splash radius but with less Direct and Splash damage.

So flip the Assault and Basic damage so it matches other weapons in the game.
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+1 for jet packs