Skillback Booster (3 days) - Fits into Passive Booster slot. Returns ~300,000 sp and only one skill can have it on at a time, as long as there are no skills that depend on it. You can't use the skill and lose it's bonuses once its active. If the booster timer expires before the skill points are returned, you lose all remaining skill points for that skill. Passive SP gains are disabled while this booster is active.

[SUGGESTION] Skillback booster
Update: An intriguing idea that the dev team will discuss further.

Two things I noticed about those not supporting respecs

1. Played since at least beginning of open beta where they got the chance to make their mistakes and then were given two respecs upon release of Uprising to fix them.

2. All of the dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles they want are already in the game.

Two things I noticed about those not supporting respecs

1. Played since at least beginning of open beta where they got the chance to make their mistakes and then were given two respecs upon release of Uprising to fix them.

2. All of the dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles they want are already in the game.

3. Because EVE doesn't let you.

4. Your choices matter.

I've argued this plenty, I don't really give a flying **** about anything related to this game right now, sooo, have at it, oh forum warriors of righteous whine.

1. That's because CCP made some major screwups with the skill system and were forced to give one more final respec.

2. Not sure you're trolling here. But last I checked even the anti-respec folks acknowledge the lack of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles.

1. Though that may be, it doesn't reflect the countless others who were not effected by any changes in the skill tree and still were given the opportunity to take advantage of a respec and now wave the "anti-respec" flag.

2. Not trolling. What do you say happens for the people who want to use the Combat Rifle, Gallente Heavy, or Amarr Dropship and have no option to? Are they supposed to just sit on their SP until who knows when?

@Dust Fiend
@Orin Issa

I don't want this thread to go out of control here. This thread is meant to point out what I have observed over the 12 months about pro-respec folks. I have also been kind enough to show alternatives that could appease the camp I referenced.

1. Though that may be, it doesn't reflect the countless others who were not effected by any changes in the skill tree and still were given the opportunity to take advantage of a respec and now wave the "anti-respec" flag.

2. Not trolling. What do you say happens for the people who want to use the Combat Rifle, Gallente Heavy, or Amarr Dropship and have no option to? Are they supposed to just sit on their SP until who knows when?

I am not taking anything out of hand, I am merely wishing to constructively argue. Your alternatives are not that great, however. The skill-back thing I never understood, why would anyone want to buy something to wait for a skill to partially respec while losing out on passive SP? The amount of wasted SP you are paying for with Aurum makes little sense.

As for your second point, I do not believe the majority of people asking for a respec feel that way. Sure there are some who want frequent respecs so they can keep trying out whatever they want, but they are in the minority. I am fairly confident that most people regardless of their position on respecs agree that your decisions should have long term consequences.

My counter suggestions would be to give all new players a one time offer for a respec that they can cash in whenever they want, and perhaps impose a limit whether it be a time frame from your character's creation date or an certain amount of lifetime SP in which you forfeit your one time offer. Also provide a respec for those who have skills into racial variants of newly released core content (core content being basic dropsuit frames, basic weapon archetypes, and vehicles).

Over the course of 12 calendar months I have been observing the folks around here on the forums to see why so many of them have posted constant requests for an optional respec system. During that time I have noticed that there are two sides of these supporters.

First Side: Misplaced SP

This is a very common one, but not as common as the other one. These people say that they have misspent their available SP into skills that didn't work out for them and thus feel that they should be allowed to rearrange the few SP they misplaced into other skills they are interested in. The opponents of this would say that choices need to have meaning and that requires accepting permanent consequences of those choices whether you failed to do your research or not. I am among those who against respeccing over the excuse of missplaced SP mainly because we are operating under the rules of New Eden that have been established for ten years already.

However, there is one compromise I found in regards to this. I thought about it and figured this may be a proper solution.

Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=86041&find=unread



I find this to be completely fair and something that will suit those who misplaced their SP. Please note that this is not a typical respec primarily because it is slowly pulling away SP from a skill book and you are forced to lose precious time that you would have used gaining the passive SP. It also increases the risk of potentially losing some of the SP you already gain if you misuse it. The discussion is still going on. In addition to that, CCP Cmdr Wang noted that this is being looking into.

Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009985#post1009985



Second Side: Respecs Make It More Fun

This is the most common excuse we see. To be honest with you, this will just make the game more boring much quicker in a game that is suppose to take 7-10 years to max out. Besides, there are better alternatives to this if these people are looking for more fun. Some of the alternatives can be implemented now or within the next 2 months (considering 1.3 is content locked).

1. Better Matchmaking.
2. District owners to change the layout of the structures and installations of their districts for PC battles.
3. Trade window of sorts since we already have ISK transfers.
4. Bringing back Skirmish 1.0 - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89032
5. Fighters and hover bikes.
6. The cloaking equipment module. This is mentioned in the Dev Blogs.
7. The bubble shield equipment module. This is mentioned in the Dev Blogs.
8. More racial variant suits, vehicles, and weapons.
9. Ability to commingle with other mercs without having to go into battle.
10. Better tutorials.
11. Basic frame suits with some minor bonuses so they won't be so useless.
12. Some basic form of PVE against rogue drones.
13. Remove the entire red zone that covers the entire terrain during factional warfare or during PC battles but keep the red zone for public matches.
14. Fix hit detection and aiming.
15. Resolve the issues of the constant disconnects.

These and more can do more than enough give players more content, more fun, and will likely help retain more players introduced to Dust 514. As you can see, the respec is not the end-all-be-all of game development. Halo doesn't have a respec system and that game is doing just fine because of the content alone.

In conclusion, there are better alternatives to those in both side of the pro-respec camp.

Neural Remaps.

Eve Online has a Neural Ramp system in place. It doesn't directly affect SP but it does affect how much SP becomes needed to train a skill book over time. This is done by giving each skill book at least two of the five attributes: willpower, perception, charisma, intelligence, and memory. Each player is given a set amount of attribute points per attribute.

Every year, an Eve player is given a chance to rearrange their attribute points to whichever attribute that they like. The more points given to willpower and perception will mean that skill books that share those attributes will require less skill books to train up. However, this also means that less points in intelligence, charisma, and memory will result in all other skill books that share those attributes to take much longer to train up. It's a trade off. Every choice must have a consequence.

I think we need 1 respec/year

I was once in the no-respecc side, till the commando come out.

I like the new suit, but after CCP drop it to the game i found that the suit need a particular set up, different from other suit.
So now im stuck with a Half commando.
yeah i have my Proto Amarr Logi ready to fight and have a better KDR with it, but i have more fun with the commando suit.

If we all have a "1 at year respec" people won't simply go to the FOTM but change when something fun for them come out.
For me, it's a good thing. More variety in the game.

Maken Tosch, I can't take much you say about respecs seriously considering you're dog in the hunt is you quitting both Dust and Eve Online and/or you trying to organize more Jita Riots.

I'm not in the mood to get into a heated discussion with you and I don't want this thread to get out of hand because of it. If you want to talk about my stance on the issue, do that elsewhere. Not here.

I'm not in the mood to get into a heated discussion with you and I don't want this thread to get out of hand because of it. If you want to talk about my stance on the issue, do that elsewhere. Not here.

I'm not in the mood to get into a heated discussion with you and I don't want this thread to get out of hand because of it. If you want to talk about my stance on the issue, do that elsewhere. Not here.

Players have a right to know your stake in respecs.