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Orin Issa
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:32:00 -
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Two things I noticed about those not supporting respecs
1. Played since at least beginning of open beta where they got the chance to make their mistakes and then were given two respecs upon release of Uprising to fix them.
2. All of the dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles they want are already in the game. |
Orin Issa
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Orin Issa wrote:Two things I noticed about those not supporting respecs
1. Played since at least beginning of open beta where they got the chance to make their mistakes and then were given two respecs upon release of Uprising to fix them.
2. All of the dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles they want are already in the game. 3. Because EVE doesn't let you. 4. Your choices matter. I've argued this plenty, I don't really give a flying **** about anything related to this game right now, sooo, have at it, oh forum warriors of righteous whine. Reverting to claiming someone is "whining" when they disagree with your viewpoint only goes to show that you do not have the capacity to provide a proper counter argument. Both points you just made do not address what I pointed out.
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Orin Issa
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:40:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Orin Issa wrote:Two things I noticed about those not supporting respecs
1. Played since at least beginning of open beta where they got the chance to make their mistakes and then were given two respecs upon release of Uprising to fix them.
2. All of the dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles they want are already in the game. 1. That's because CCP made some major screwups with the skill system and were forced to give one more final respec. 2. Not sure you're trolling here. But last I checked even the anti-respec folks acknowledge the lack of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles.
1. Though that may be, it doesn't reflect the countless others who were not effected by any changes in the skill tree and still were given the opportunity to take advantage of a respec and now wave the "anti-respec" flag.
2. Not trolling. What do you say happens for the people who want to use the Combat Rifle, Gallente Heavy, or Amarr Dropship and have no option to? Are they supposed to just sit on their SP until who knows when? |
Orin Issa
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Dust Fiend
@Orin Issa
I don't want this thread to go out of control here. This thread is meant to point out what I have observed over the 12 months about pro-respec folks. I have also been kind enough to show alternatives that could appease the camp I referenced.
I am not taking anything out of hand, I am merely wishing to constructively argue. Your alternatives are not that great, however. The skill-back thing I never understood, why would anyone want to buy something to wait for a skill to partially respec while losing out on passive SP? The amount of wasted SP you are paying for with Aurum makes little sense.
As for your second point, I do not believe the majority of people asking for a respec feel that way. Sure there are some who want frequent respecs so they can keep trying out whatever they want, but they are in the minority. I am fairly confident that most people regardless of their position on respecs agree that your decisions should have long term consequences.
My counter suggestions would be to give all new players a one time offer for a respec that they can cash in whenever they want, and perhaps impose a limit whether it be a time frame from your character's creation date or an certain amount of lifetime SP in which you forfeit your one time offer. Also provide a respec for those who have skills into racial variants of newly released core content (core content being basic dropsuit frames, basic weapon archetypes, and vehicles). |
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