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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
601
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:01:00 -
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I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. |
DickMason
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:03:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP.
Raw numbers?
Taken with grains of salt |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
299
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:08:00 -
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DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt
Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1839
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:11:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line.
High Resists? You're a funny guy.
More info please, such as what game mode and what suit/weapon do you run? |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
231
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:12:00 -
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Actually, I think I need to know your play style for the numbers to start saying anything meaningful.
Do you drive a LAV? Stand around in a scout suit? Speed tank a shotgun/CAL Logi suit....? Are you a tanker yourself? Are you a sniper? Do you play point defense, hack objectives, run with a pack of wolves....? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
300
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:13:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line. High Resists? You're a funny guy. More info please, such as what game mode and what suit/weapon do you run?
Adv Commando / Adv Plasma Cannon / Adv Swarm Launcher ... AV specialist class.. so trust me, i know everything about SNIPERS and TANKS in the red-line.
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ChromeBreaker
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
766
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:16:00 -
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As a front line heavy i can confidantly say that around 90% of my deaths are down to getting overwhelmed by AR/SR fire, grenades, pistols/smg's... the rest is tanks, snipers, MD's, LAV's etc |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
601
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:17:00 -
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@ J Pearson.
Almost exclusively skirmish. Mostly on American servers.
Cko. Either GEK 38 or GLU 5.
50% solo 50% in squad. |
Master Crimson Reaper
Gravity Prone EoN.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:55:00 -
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well if you die buy snipers the most its easy dont stand there or run in a line its very rare for me to die by red line snipers or get run over not saying it dont happen but i die mostly from mass fire from flay lock noobs that need to dump 2+ clips at my feet when that fails they stat tossing contact nades at me lol.
but when you know what most people are doing its not hard to foresee whats to come an stay out if its way, now if you are like most of the blue dots that seem to run around some times on the field like they are headless chickens which is rather funny to watch some times. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
252
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:03:00 -
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If you get owned by HAV's, and you have AV on hand, you suck ass. |
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Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
252
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:03:00 -
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Same for LAV's. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
601
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:07:00 -
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Master Crimson Reaper wrote:well if you die buy snipers the most its easy dont stand there or run in a line its very rare for me to die by red line snipers or get run over not saying it dont happen but i die mostly from mass fire from flay lock noobs that need to dump 2+ clips at my feet when that fails they stat tossing contact nades at me lol.
but when you know what most people are doing its not hard to foresee whats to come an stay out if its way, now if you are like most of the blue dots that seem to run around some times on the field like they are headless chickens which is rather funny to watch some times.
Yup, you're right, thanks.
I have only been playing a month or so. I will stop standing still in the middle of the map and learn to take cover and zig zag. Thanks for this insight I will try to put it into practice next time I play. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
601
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:12:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Same for LAV's.
Yup, you're right too, I must get some of these vehicle grenades I've heard about, apparently it only takes 1 to take down one of those yellow jeeps.
Thanks for the help. |
LRMXxX
What The French CRONOS.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:14:00 -
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Lies. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
252
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:15:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Same for LAV's. Yup, you're right too, I must get some of these vehicle grenades I've heard about, apparently it only takes 1 to take down one of those yellow jeeps. Thanks for the help.
Lai Dai's take 4 to kill me. 1 PC shot and 1 swarm and 2 nades would do me in too. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
601
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:21:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Same for LAV's. Yup, you're right too, I must get some of these vehicle grenades I've heard about, apparently it only takes 1 to take down one of those yellow jeeps. Thanks for the help. Lai Dai's take 4 to kill me. 1 PC shot and 1 swarm and 2 nades would do me in too.
OH !
So you're saying I need to use millions of skill points to go against your 300 thou SP jeep, and stand a chance
Also more millions to get a decent suit and side arm to protect myself against infantry at the same time you're trying to run me down.
Yup, sounds legit I'll do that in six months or so, thanks again. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Covert Intervention
509
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:29:00 -
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My numbers are inverted compared to the OP. Yes, I die by snipers and Murder Taxis. Rarely though. A particular match might be horrible with either and will result in counter sniping (aka sniper hunting).
Most of the time I am a Logi Bro and I am too aggressive when it comes to saving a downed Merc. Which costs me, not them. Probably the biggest threat to me is HMGs in various forms. When driving Tanks or Gunning for others Forge Guns and Proto Swarm Launchers are the worst followed by packed AV grenades.
What you play, how you play, how quickly you get into cover (my weakness) and how you travel will all modify what kills you the most often. I love working with a Heavy that knows how to use cover. They rarely walk down the middle of the road but stick to the sides and exploit cover.
I come from RPGs and am used to charging in and killing the monster. It is am amazingly difficult task to change that behavior. In particular when I shut down DUST and fire up Dark Souls. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
473
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:34:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Same for LAV's. Yup, you're right too, I must get some of these vehicle grenades I've heard about, apparently it only takes 1 to take down one of those yellow jeeps. Thanks for the help. Lai Dai's take 4 to kill me. 1 PC shot and 1 swarm and 2 nades would do me in too. OH ! So you're saying I need to use millions of skill points to go against your 300 thou SP jeep, and stand a chance Also more millions to get a decent suit and side arm to protect myself against infantry at the same time you're trying to run me down. Yup, sounds legit I'll do that in six months or so, thanks again.
Lol hes talking about his tank duuu. Lol at thread. QQ I get killed by wepons designed to do just that. My AR cant solo everything waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa+á.
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Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1171
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:37:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:@ J Pearson.
Almost exclusively skirmish. Mostly on American servers.
Cko. Either GEK 38 or GLU 5.
50% solo 50% in squad.
I think its funny how the numbers change for the different roles in the game, that the only weapons that are lethal to a Shield Tanker, are Large Turrets, LAV Roadkilling, and Sniper Rifles, some of the most damaging weapons in the game.
When I done this before in my Scout Suit, the only weapons that didn't manage to kill me were the Plasma Cannon, Laser and Scrambler Pistol.
AR was at the top, it had a lead of I think, 40 kills.
When a Shield tanker can drop to nothing but the most damaging weapons in the game, yeah, it sure does say a lot. |
KingBabar
Internal Error. League of Infamy
882
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:55:00 -
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I somewhat agree.
I reckon about 70% of my deaths come from being run over by LAVs. They don't seem to need much speed to do so, and sometimes, well, a lot of times, they are quiet to the point where its already too late.
Its not that my REs or indeed my flux MD combo don't kill enough of them, its just that its not really any fun. I know HTFU go to fish and whatnot.
Say whatever you want, having a FPS game where getting run over by free LAVs is the biggest threat in a standard pub game is just in serious bad taste. All the "adapt or die" and HTFU people can be my guess and keep saying that until the rest of this puny playerbase takes their hats and leaves....
Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
604
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:59:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Same for LAV's. Yup, you're right too, I must get some of these vehicle grenades I've heard about, apparently it only takes 1 to take down one of those yellow jeeps. Thanks for the help. Lai Dai's take 4 to kill me. 1 PC shot and 1 swarm and 2 nades would do me in too. OH ! So you're saying I need to use millions of skill points to go against your 300 thou SP jeep, and stand a chance Also more millions to get a decent suit and side arm to protect myself against infantry at the same time you're trying to run me down. Yup, sounds legit I'll do that in six months or so, thanks again. Lol hes talking about his tank duuu. Lol at thread. QQ I get killed by wepons designed to do just that. My AR cant solo everything waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa+á.
No silly, read again, it's about a logi jeep, read convo above ^.
Yes getting run over is BS when I have proto nades and proto proxys.
But even more BS is being shot by red line camping rail tanks and snipers that I cannot get to. If they can shoot at me I should be able to get to them and shoot back. |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1171
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:00:00 -
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Heres my Scout version, this is over the course of ten Skirm matches, not 300 deaths. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
605
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:14:00 -
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I suppose being an FPS player I came from my last FPS, MAG, expecting this to be an FPS.
It is to an extent, but badly executed, and the fixes take way too long.
It's a shame, what promised so much delivered so little. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
303
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:21:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I somewhat agree.
I reckon about 70% of my deaths come from being run over by LAVs. They don't seem to need much speed to do so, and sometimes, well, a lot of times, they are quiet to the point where its already too late.
Its not that my REs or indeed my flux MD combo don't kill enough of them, its just that its not really any fun. I know HTFU go to fish and whatnot.
Say whatever you want, having a FPS game where getting run over by free LAVs is the biggest threat in a standard pub game is just in serious bad taste. All the "adapt or die" and HTFU people can be my guess and keep saying that until the rest of this puny playerbase takes their hats and leaves....
Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
911
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:26:00 -
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Wow I'm surprised anyone gets nearly half of their deaths from snipers - they're not that hard to avoid, especially after the first death from them so you know where to avoid.
The LAVs are a huge problem though and everyone knows it - CCP must be seeing the numbers but I'm astounded they haven't done anything about it yet. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
606
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:34:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Wow I'm surprised anyone gets nearly half of their deaths from snipers - they're not that hard to avoid, especially after the first death from them so you know where to avoid.
The LAVs are a huge problem though and everyone knows it - CCP must be seeing the numbers but I'm astounded they haven't done anything about it yet.
You're surprised I am on the non redline part of the map, running around trying to shoot people.
When involved in gun fights, I get sniped in the back by snipers and rail tanks in the red line, or ran over when I'm trying to fend off 2 or three assault guys.
Like I said, an FPS poorly executed. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
1197
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:37:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers.
Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
305
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:40:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers. Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP.
I always in the heat of the battle... which is why i get kill by snipers, road kill by LAV's, and ambush by tanks ...what you just said doesn't make any sense. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
608
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:44:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers. Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP.
LMAO.
'' out in the open '' ? ? ?
Do you play DUST at all ?
Have you seen the map design ? ? ?
Stop posting rubbish. Thank you. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
1197
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:46:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers. Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP. I always in the heat of the battle... which is why i get kill by snipers, road kill by LAV's, and ambush by tanks ...what you just said doesn't make any sense.
To the part I bolded, If you are mixing it up you won't die to snipers and LAVs. I rarely ever die to snipers and I play at AR range around central objectives. I do die alot to LAVs, but thats mostly because I'm ditzy and walk out into traffic before looking both ways. Thats a playstyle choice.
As for people shooting you from the redline.... Well.. Stop wearing all protogear, pubstomping and redlining them. Keep the fight in the middle of the map. Thats a playstyle choice. |
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