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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:08:00 -
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DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt
Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:13:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line. High Resists? You're a funny guy. More info please, such as what game mode and what suit/weapon do you run?
Adv Commando / Adv Plasma Cannon / Adv Swarm Launcher ... AV specialist class.. so trust me, i know everything about SNIPERS and TANKS in the red-line.
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:21:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I somewhat agree.
I reckon about 70% of my deaths come from being run over by LAVs. They don't seem to need much speed to do so, and sometimes, well, a lot of times, they are quiet to the point where its already too late.
Its not that my REs or indeed my flux MD combo don't kill enough of them, its just that its not really any fun. I know HTFU go to fish and whatnot.
Say whatever you want, having a FPS game where getting run over by free LAVs is the biggest threat in a standard pub game is just in serious bad taste. All the "adapt or die" and HTFU people can be my guess and keep saying that until the rest of this puny playerbase takes their hats and leaves....
Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:40:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers. Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP.
I always in the heat of the battle... which is why i get kill by snipers, road kill by LAV's, and ambush by tanks ...what you just said doesn't make any sense. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:50:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: 132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
The only thing these numbers tell me is that you spend WAY to much time out in the open playing with yourself. How about instead.. You train up your Shotgun skills get get into the middle of the battle. Then we would see different numbers. Stop giving biased information, Playstyle affects these numbers alot more then anything being OP. I always in the heat of the battle... which is why i get kill by snipers, road kill by LAV's, and ambush by tanks ...what you just said doesn't make any sense. To the part I bolded, If you are mixing it up you won't die to snipers and LAVs. I rarely ever die to snipers and I play at AR range around central objectives. I do die alot to LAVs, but thats mostly because I'm ditzy and walk out into traffic before looking both ways. Thats a playstyle choice. As for people shooting you from the redline.... Well.. Stop wearing all protogear, pubstomping and redlining them. Keep the fight in the middle of the map. Thats a playstyle choice.
So.. trying to win the battle, and helping my team mates, is the WRONG playstyle ? THAT IS NEW |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:04:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote: As for people shooting you from the redline.... Well.. Stop wearing all protogear, pubstomping and redlining them. Keep the fight in the middle of the map. Thats a playstyle choice. So.. trying to win the battle, and helping my team mates, is the WRONG playstyle ? THAT IS NEW So you admit it then, well then I say you are full of ****. Oh wow look at me. I wore all protogear, pubstomped the other team and then once we redlined them, they got out their sniper rifles and sniper tanks and shot at me. But because I only use an AR and Flaylock, I didn't have the range to shoot them back. I am so mad that CCP will not let me get into their spawn and base **** them all day
I quote from "this" thread ;
"Adv Commando / Adv Plasma Cannon / Adv Swarm Launcher ... AV specialist class.. so trust me, i know everything about SNIPERS and TANKS in the red-line."
And my other fit is "Commando AR / PC".. and ammo supplier...if you going to Troll, at least READ the full thread... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:30:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Well, instead of trolling the forums, maybe you could put that time into playing instead. I can get your total kill tally in just one days play. Lol, I wish. I'm at work and I'll be stuck here for another 11 hours. Then I gotta go home and take my kids to the park, then take my wife out to a nice dinner, then come home and do adult things, then pick up the kids and read to them and put them to bed. and maybe, just maybe... I might get in 1 match before I pass out. I mostly play Dust 514ums.
How can you possibly give feedback about a game that you never play ? Maybe THIS is what is wrong with this game....People like you. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:41:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: How can you possibly give feedback about a game that you never play ? Maybe THIS is what is wrong with this game....People like you.
Maybe.. Maybe indeed. I look at myself as the most interesting man in the world. I don't always play Dust 514, but when I do, I offer my feedback. Stay frosty my friends
Yeah... I can't wait to read you constructive feedback... ;
Remember that the game is call " Dust 514 " ... just in case you forgot which game we talking about, you welcome .. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 13:54:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Yeah... I can't wait to read you constructive feedback... ; Remember that the game is call " Dust 514 " ... just in case you forgot which game we talking about, you welcome .. I write constructive feedback all the time. I gave this thread somewhat constructive feedback. I related my own experience that I didn't die very often to snipers, and that when I talk to corpmates, they never complain about snipers. They do complain about clown cars though. And I found my experience differed from yours, I mostly die to ARs and grenades, then after that LAVs. Looking at the differences, the only conclusion I had was that we had different playstyles. Therefore I told you that your numbers are biased on playstyle and if you changed your playstyle you would see different numbers.
Trying to win the battle and helping you team mates, IS NOT A PLAYSTYLE... It is actually ; PLAYING THE GAME. Maybe you should try that more often.... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:06:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: Trying to win the battle and helping you team mates, IS NOT A PLAYSTYLE... It is actually ; PLAYING THE GAME. Maybe you should try that more often....
Pubstomping people isn't fun. I don't enjoy ROFLstomping everyone. Redlining the enemy team and forcing them to just give up and switch to sniper rifles and clown cars isn't fun. It isn't fun for them either, so they quit. For me, I like a close match against a tough opponent. In many different games, when you sit down to play, you can select a difficulty setting, easy, normal or hard. I always choose Hard. I enjoy games like Dark Souls. And as such, I choose Milita gear beacuse I consider it hardmode. This is my playstyle. The problem you are encoutering is not that snipers are OP. It is that you are OP compared to who you are fighting, which shows there are matchmaking issues. If you adopt your playstyle you may find more enjoyment from closer matches. Unless of course you do just like bending people over and base raping them
What ? ...seriously dude... go and play Dust 514 for a bit, because you really have not idea what you talking about...Pub Storming have nothing to do with red-line snipers and tanks, or LAV's. Yes Pub storming is bad.. but that is a DIFFERENT problem.. |
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:18:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote: What ? ...seriously dude... go and play Dust 514 for a bit, because you really have not idea what you talking about...Pub Storming have nothing to do with red-line snipers and tanks, or LAV's. Yes Pub storming is bad.. but that is a DIFFERENT problem.. I played a half dozen matches last week. didn't notice a problem with redline snipers or sniper tanks until after we redlined them. Sometimes I may catch a stray bullet every once and again, but I typically never stand still, even to shoot. LAVs are always a issue, but it becomes a crazy issue once the enemy is redlined and they just want to drive around and have fun. I'll check it out if your telling me this is some new crazy thing.
Why a Tank will sit in the red-line if they can potentially change the full battle ? Why LAV's will just run around looking for Road kills, if they could try to hack an undefended objective ? Why snipers don't try to drop up-links behind the other team lines ?
Think about that....and ffs... try to play the game more often. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:29:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. it would help add some perspective to know what game types your were playing and what fits your run. Did you snipe? Did you run AV? Are you a heavy/Logi/Scout/Assault?
So what...? maybe with other classes are :
132. Run over 38. By sniper 87. By tank
Still the same problem.. just different stats.
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:30:00 -
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Cere Harkens wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:KingBabar wrote:I Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death. This type of attitude is often just a disguised way of saying that Dust needs to play like Call of Duty, despite the two games being vastly different. Dust is a tactical shooter and CoD is an arcade shooter. People approach Dust with expectations based on what they're accustomed to and play this game as if it should be CoD. They do things in Dust that are apparently common in CoD like zerging the other team and standing around like idiots without making use of cover. They play the game they expect, not the game they have. When that gets them dead in Dust, they blame the game, not their game-play. As an example, I was playing in a game recently where my side had lost all four objectives. What followed is what I've seen repeatedly; the enemy team pushed all the way to our redline, where our players were responding with sniper fire and tanks. The opposing team kept this up despite taking significantly more casualties than our team. This continued up until they ran out of clones and they lost the match, despite having locked the objectives down. That's bad game-play, not a bad game. People need to stop playing with old (and bad) habits and instead play with smart tactics.
Again with the CoD crap... you guys are so obsess with not making Dust a CoD clone.. that you forcing CCP to make a crappy FPS game.. ;
- That gun is shooting bullets !! CoD clone !! - That gun looks like an Assault Rifle !! CoD clone !! - I got killed by someone very quickly !! CoD clone !! - I can move left and right to quickly !! CoD clone ! - The graphics looks to good !! CoD clone !! - We have guns in the game !! CoD clone !!
And you wonder why this game FPS mechanics sucks so much...I actually feel sorry for CCP, having to cope with this crap every time they do ANYTHING. |
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