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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:05:00 -
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As contact leaderboard is just one of the many brokeass things in this game I'll save you the trouble.
KILLS... 33,302
DEATHS...8,609
KDR...3.88
WP...2,776,662
W/L... 1.38
Not that the boards mean too much as they were broken for months too. |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:09:00 -
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Cere Harkens wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:KingBabar wrote:I Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death. This type of attitude is often just a disguised way of saying that Dust needs to play like Call of Duty, despite the two games being vastly different. Dust is a tactical shooter and CoD is an arcade shooter. People approach Dust with expectations based on what they're accustomed to and play this game as if it should be CoD. They do things in Dust that are apparently common in CoD like zerging the other team and standing around like idiots without making use of cover. They play the game they expect, not the game they have. When that gets them dead in Dust, they blame the game, not their game-play. As an example, I was playing in a game recently where my side had lost all four objectives. What followed is what I've seen repeatedly; the enemy team pushed all the way to our redline, where our players were responding with sniper fire and tanks. The opposing team kept this up despite taking significantly more casualties than our team. This continued up until they ran out of clones and they lost the match, despite having locked the objectives down. That's bad game-play, not a bad game. People need to stop playing with old (and bad) habits and instead play with smart tactics.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
The maps are terrible.
The game modes and design are awful.
These are two of the main things that promote this type of game, after game after game. |
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Cere Harkens
Cerulean Systems
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:17:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote: Wrong, wrong, wrong.
The maps are terrible.
The game modes and design are awful.
These are two of the main things that promote this type of game, after game after game.
Yeah? terrible relative to what game, exactly? Call of Duty? The maps and modes are fine if played properly. Where they feel "terrible", it's because people keep tryng to force a round CoD peg into a square hole. How exactly is the team losing the game in the example I provided terrible design and not terrible players?
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Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
457
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:21:00 -
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OP seems to not understand this. Post something in general discussions then calls anyone who questions his methods "stupid" or "dumb". Don't get upset we question stuff, as I said in prior post, throwing numbers around on the internet is a very common and usually faulty process. My advice would be not for CCP to look at this, but for the OP to look at it, and focus on how he can improve his play, 1st priority seems to be not becomming an easy target |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:22:00 -
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Cere Harkens wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote: Wrong, wrong, wrong.
The maps are terrible.
The game modes and design are awful.
These are two of the main things that promote this type of game, after game after game.
Yeah? terrible relative to what game, exactly? Call of Duty? The maps and modes are fine if played properly. Where they feel "terrible", it's because people keep tryng to force a round CoD peg into a square hole. How exactly is the team losing the game in the example I provided terrible design and not terrible players?
You're an eve player and this is your first FPS isn't it. Don't tell porkys, I know. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:30:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:OP seems to not understand this. Post something in general discussions then calls anyone who questions his methods "stupid" or "dumb". Don't get upset we question stuff, as I said in prior post, throwing numbers around on the internet is a very common and usually faulty process. My advice would be not for CCP to look at this, but for the OP to look at it, and focus on how he can improve his play, 1st priority seems to be not becomming an easy target
If you post dumb. Expect to be told.
If you post stupid. Expect to be told.
Can't have your ilk thinking your being clever. Try to engage brain before posting, you only make yourself look bad. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:30:00 -
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Cere Harkens wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:KingBabar wrote:I Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death. This type of attitude is often just a disguised way of saying that Dust needs to play like Call of Duty, despite the two games being vastly different. Dust is a tactical shooter and CoD is an arcade shooter. People approach Dust with expectations based on what they're accustomed to and play this game as if it should be CoD. They do things in Dust that are apparently common in CoD like zerging the other team and standing around like idiots without making use of cover. They play the game they expect, not the game they have. When that gets them dead in Dust, they blame the game, not their game-play. As an example, I was playing in a game recently where my side had lost all four objectives. What followed is what I've seen repeatedly; the enemy team pushed all the way to our redline, where our players were responding with sniper fire and tanks. The opposing team kept this up despite taking significantly more casualties than our team. This continued up until they ran out of clones and they lost the match, despite having locked the objectives down. That's bad game-play, not a bad game. People need to stop playing with old (and bad) habits and instead play with smart tactics.
Again with the CoD crap... you guys are so obsess with not making Dust a CoD clone.. that you forcing CCP to make a crappy FPS game.. ;
- That gun is shooting bullets !! CoD clone !! - That gun looks like an Assault Rifle !! CoD clone !! - I got killed by someone very quickly !! CoD clone !! - I can move left and right to quickly !! CoD clone ! - The graphics looks to good !! CoD clone !! - We have guns in the game !! CoD clone !!
And you wonder why this game FPS mechanics sucks so much...I actually feel sorry for CCP, having to cope with this crap every time they do ANYTHING. |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:20:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Step one: Call in an LAV Step two, drive to your destination. Step three, hold and keep playing in cover at destination at city with a team, learn where you can cross to other parts without becoming roadkill. Step four: profit.
Oh, and never stop moving no matter what no matter where and never run or do anything in a predictable pattern, always assume there are snipers pointing at you at all times.
There, I just increased your survivability three-fold that way. When I get home later today I'll look up your KDR as well as WP/D ratio out of insane curiosity.
EDIT: If you really want to learn something, watch a real corp team run skirmish, like for example Quickgloves and his boys, none of those fools get sniped or run over and they all hit the ground as infantryman in the thick of things. They survive because they don't act like total tactic-less tards
Says the guy with 1,400 kills.
STFU and play the game, then I might listen.
I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
710
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:22:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Says the guy with 1,400 kills. STFU and play the game, then I might listen. I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Too many alts and got burned out after a year of beta, you're still the guy who keeps getting sniped an absurd amount. *shrugs* |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Says the guy with 1,400 kills. STFU and play the game, then I might listen. I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Too many alts and got burned out after a year of beta, you're still the guy who keeps getting sniped an absurd amount. *shrugs* EDIT: Also given your WP/Death ratio is half of mine, I'm not going to take anything you say too seriously, especially seeing your adorable behavior in-game of going to the same killzone after dying and magically expecting different results.
My WP are from kills, yours from hacking. Well done. At least this game caters for those of you that cant FPS eh. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:46:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:My WP are from kills, yours from hacking. Well done. At least this game caters for those of you that cant FPS eh. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
And yet we have about the same KDR, and I don't get my teeth pushed in by snipers and LAVs, strange that.
At least this game caters to those who are smart enough to avoid obvious killzones, eh? ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
I'll take my GunGame and survival instinct over your... Gungame and sniper-magnet anyday. |
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dogmanpig
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:47:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Says the guy with 1,400 kills. STFU and play the game, then I might listen. I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Too many alts and got burned out after a year of beta, you're still the guy who keeps getting sniped an absurd amount. *shrugs* EDIT: Also given your WP/Death ratio is half of mine, I'm not going to take anything you say too seriously, especially seeing your adorable behavior in-game of going to the same killzone after dying and magically expecting different results. My WP are from kills, yours from hacking. Well done. At least this game caters for those of you that cant FPS eh. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) noob attack number 32!!! *vooom*(LAV smash yo face in) *voom vooooooooooom*
noob attack number 83!!!! *click.....* hey he fell over! *BANG!*
rich noob attack number 2!!! *insert blaster noise* lol... nub in road ME KILL *vvvvooo.....oooo....om...mm...mmmm* |
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Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:47:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Says the guy with 1,400 kills. STFU and play the game, then I might listen. I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Too many alts and got burned out after a year of beta, you're still the guy who keeps getting sniped an absurd amount. *shrugs* EDIT: Also given your WP/Death ratio is half of mine, I'm not going to take anything you say too seriously, especially seeing your adorable behavior in-game of going to the same killzone after dying and magically expecting different results. My WP are from kills, yours from hacking. Well done. At least this game caters for those of you that cant FPS eh. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
King - don't point fingers about points. We all know your sole goal in the beta was to farm points (ram LAV in wall, rep, ram LAV in wall, rep, etc). Don't pretend all of your points are from kills when we all know better and watched you farm to get them.
You did something good by starting the thread, now you are reverting to form. My hope for your ability to be constructive and actually helpful is dashed. |
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Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:51:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Says the guy with 1,400 kills. STFU and play the game, then I might listen. I love people like you that post on here and don't even play. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Too many alts and got burned out after a year of beta, you're still the guy who keeps getting sniped an absurd amount. *shrugs* EDIT: Also given your WP/Death ratio is half of mine, I'm not going to take anything you say too seriously, especially seeing your adorable behavior in-game of going to the same killzone after dying and magically expecting different results. My WP are from kills, yours from hacking. Well done. At least this game caters for those of you that cant FPS eh. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) noob attack number 32!!! *vooom*(LAV smash yo face in) *voom vooooooooooom* noob attack number 83!!!! *click.....* hey he fell over! *BANG!* rich noob attack number 2!!! *insert blaster noise* lol... nub in road ME KILL *vvvvooo.....oooo....om...mm...mmmm* said it best^ |
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Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:01:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP.
you are the biggest noob in the game if sniper deaths is your top killer, wtf can you not grasp the concept of staying near cover or using free LAVs to get through open areas? that applies to getting ran over too, get real good soon |
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Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:02:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:300 deaths by every weapon sounds painful 33,000 kills make it feel better. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Yes it does |
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:30:00 -
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This game is ment to be a fps not sniper elite or death race 2000 |
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:32:00 -
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And the AV is awful now because little girls were crying their vehicles got destroyed to easily at the start of the build |
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Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:36:00 -
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Misleading.
44% of these deaths were due to sniper rifles.
29% of these deaths were from being ran over.
12.7% of these deaths were from tanks.
14.3% of these deaths were from none of the above.
This has me interested and I may actually track some amount of deaths, the difference being with EVERY weapon. Sounds like it'll be pretty interesting. |
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Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:42:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP.
And so you play a sniper
*shrugs*
Looks right to me. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:44:00 -
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I should just AFK in the MCC for ten Skirmish matches once my SP is depleted and just record each match's kill feed, then post it on the forums with associated weapon types. |
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:48:00 -
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hooc order wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. And so you play a sniper *shrugs* Looks right to me.
I was kinda thinking he dog fights snipers with a GLU way to much, and possibly gets him self run over not paying attention..
just tellin it like it looks, no troll here..![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:25:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:hooc order wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. And so you play a sniper *shrugs* Looks right to me. I was kinda thinking he dog fights snipers with a GLU way to much, and possibly gets him self run over not paying attention.. just tellin it like it looks, no troll here.. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
I take care of the snipers in are clan m8 well the red line ones and a few AS guys while i am at it TAR-07![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:07:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:hooc order wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. And so you play a sniper *shrugs* Looks right to me. I was kinda thinking he dog fights snipers with a GLU way to much, and possibly gets him self run over not paying attention.. just tellin it like it looks, no troll here.. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
I thought dog fights were an aerial thing.
My glu5 wont reach the top of the MCC, towers or the back of the red line.
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BLENDEDDAVE
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:07:00 -
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1/3 of my death's are due to getting run over was not always like this what happened ![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png) |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:51:00 -
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Lol, I very rarely die to snipers. Why? Because I THINK |
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D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:57:00 -
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Icecreamk1ng still knows how to troll in style I see ;) |
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ICECREAMK1NG
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:58:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Lol, I very rarely die to snipers. Why? Because I THINK
Bet you do. You ''THINK'' '' I must hide in a tank or the redline or the MCC. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:12:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. To die from any of these you must stand still the entire match. It takes 3 rounds from most sniper rifles to kill anyone other than another scout. I can probably count on one hand how many times I've been killed by them this build. They are virtually useless. Tanks are the slowest thing in the game and they are basically made of glass. There is also a lot more cover now than in previous builds. Lav,s are annoying and I hate them, but generally the only time they can run you over is if you're distracted. So this list is one of two things. 1. You suck hard or 2 you are a complete liar and have just listed things that annoy you in hopes that ccp will further gimp them. Probably a little if both. Posting lies will not help balance the game. Choke yourself dbag |
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karlossowen wrote:This game is ment to be a fps not sniper elite or death race 2000 This game is meant to be enjoyed no matter what role someone chooses. If it wasn't meant to have snipers scouting the hills it wouldn't have sniper rifles or hills and if they didn't want people racing around they wouldnt have vehicles. If they didn't want explosions they wouldnt have explosives. I hope you get where I'm going with this. You don't get to decide how other people have fun. |
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