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Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
1204
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:24:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote: Why a Tank will sit in the red-line if they can potentially change the full battle ? Why LAV's will just run around looking for Road kills, if they could try to hack an undefended objective ? Why snipers don't try to drop up-links behind the other team lines ?
Think about that....and ffs... try to play the game more often.
Mostly because my corpmates don't have my same aversion to protogear and just ROFLstomp them. They will redline the enemy and then camp the borders, any red dot that crosses the line gets shot in the face. Any tank trying to cross gets destroyed. LAVs can get past sometimes. They drive in, try to hack an objective, I'll just be sitting there chilling out defending the far point objective. I'll shoot the one or two guys and then just continue to sit on the objective while the others are busy pubstomping.
[Edit]: And we usually have a good spotter, if they drop off an uplink, someone will just go kill it real fast. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
309
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:29:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. it would help add some perspective to know what game types your were playing and what fits your run. Did you snipe? Did you run AV? Are you a heavy/Logi/Scout/Assault?
So what...? maybe with other classes are :
132. Run over 38. By sniper 87. By tank
Still the same problem.. just different stats.
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
611
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:05:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:I remember shooting a guy called ice breaking like 20+ times over 3 games
I tend to remember the simple names, more so if they attempt to shoot me back.
probably not you, butj ust in case I figured I'd point out you might of just gotten matched up in sequence to teh same group of people.
No it most definitely is not me. That guy is useless and copied my name from FC2 years ago. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
611
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:10:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. it would help add some perspective to know what game types your were playing and what fits your run. Did you snipe? Did you run AV? Are you a heavy/Logi/Scout/Assault?
It would also help if you actually read the thread.
As if by magic your answers will appear. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
152
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:17:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Master Crimson Reaper wrote:well if you die buy snipers the most its easy dont stand there or run in a line its very rare for me to die by red line snipers or get run over not saying it dont happen but i die mostly from mass fire from flay lock noobs that need to dump 2+ clips at my feet when that fails they stat tossing contact nades at me lol.
but when you know what most people are doing its not hard to foresee whats to come an stay out if its way, now if you are like most of the blue dots that seem to run around some times on the field like they are headless chickens which is rather funny to watch some times. Yup, you're right, thanks. I have only been playing a month or so. I will stop standing still in the middle of the map and learn to take cover and zig zag. Thanks for this insight I will try to put it into practice next time I play.
dude you got 611 likes on the fourms, so you say you only played the game for a month and all you did was talk on the fourms? something is wrong... |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:42:00 -
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theres only more people in the hill cuz that ******** rocket you city slickers run around with, numbers like that are probably why CCP nerfed the snipers. Even tho numbers miss huge factors. because they are just numbers. Next time list for every sniper kill what you were doing. most snipes now are on the braindead, due to terrible rendering, nerfs to damage versus shields, movement speed rendering at distance, and flaring(blue shield) when you fire the Kaaly it its r.o.f |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
357
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:43:00 -
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Popularity of something =/= OP |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
611
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:04:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:theres only more people in the hill cuz that ******** rocket you city slickers run around with, numbers like that are probably why CCP nerfed the snipers. Even tho numbers miss huge factors. because they are just numbers. Next time list for every sniper kill what you were doing. most snipes now are on the braindead, due to terrible rendering, nerfs to damage versus shields, movement speed rendering at distance, and flaring(blue shield) when you fire the Kaaly it its r.o.f
I have at least two snipers in my corp on Thales now.
You are on crack, or just one of the braindead you talk of.
It was bad enough bothering to keep track of what I did. If you think I'm recording details that you and others want, think again.
Why don't you try it if you want to be more an al about it. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
611
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:19:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Popularity of something =/= OP
As I said to CCP, ''make of it what you will '' |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
4009
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:20:00 -
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300 deaths by every weapon sounds painful |
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:38:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:300 deaths by every weapon sounds painful
33,000 kills make it feel better. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:41:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:theres only more people in the hill cuz that ******** rocket you city slickers run around with, numbers like that are probably why CCP nerfed the snipers. Even tho numbers miss huge factors. because they are just numbers. Next time list for every sniper kill what you were doing. most snipes now are on the braindead, due to terrible rendering, nerfs to damage versus shields, movement speed rendering at distance, and flaring(blue shield) when you fire the Kaaly it its r.o.f I have at least two snipers in my corp on Thales now. You are on crack, or just one of the braindead you talk of. It was bad enough bothering to keep track of what I did. If you think I'm recording details that you and others want, think again. Why don't you try it if you want to be more an al about it.
So yesterday when you were stood on a hill top, spamming swarms at my tank, you wouldn't consider yourself, a sniper target and a tank target. Thats a self induced result. simple as
A better version of your test would be to not highlight yourself on hilltop, with swarm cloads/trails, and play as the infantry you are. Of course the majority of kills were snipers and tanks if you jumping around in an opening on a hill, with flares in your hands and nano hives everywhere |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:46:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:theres only more people in the hill cuz that ******** rocket you city slickers run around with, numbers like that are probably why CCP nerfed the snipers. Even tho numbers miss huge factors. because they are just numbers. Next time list for every sniper kill what you were doing. most snipes now are on the braindead, due to terrible rendering, nerfs to damage versus shields, movement speed rendering at distance, and flaring(blue shield) when you fire the Kaaly it its r.o.f I have at least two snipers in my corp on Thales now. You are on crack, or just one of the braindead you talk of. It was bad enough bothering to keep track of what I did. If you think I'm recording details that you and others want, think again. Why don't you try it if you want to be more an al about it. So yesterday when you were stood on a hill top, spamming swarms at my tank, you wouldn't consider yourself, a sniper target and a tank target. Thats a self induced result. simple as A better version of your test would be to not highlight yourself on hilltop, with swarm cloads/trails, and play as the infantry you are. Of course the majority of kills were snipers and tanks if you jumping around in an opening on a hill, with flares in your hands and nano hives everywhere
I take it you did not here about the event running this week then.
Try moar. |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
496
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:48:00 -
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Hmmm, can get a panel of people to record their deaths as well?
I'd like to help with this. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:55:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:[quote=Sgt Buttscratch]theres only more people in the hill cuz that ******** rocket you city slickers run around with, numbers like that are probably why CCP nerfed the snipers. Even tho numbers miss huge factors. because they are just numbers. Next time list for every sniper kill what you were doing. most snipes now are on the braindead, due to terrible rendering, nerfs to damage versus shields, movement speed rendering at distance, and flaring(blue shield) when you fire the Kaaly it its r.o.f I have at least two snipers in my corp on Thales now. You are on crack, or just one of the braindead you talk of. It was bad enough bothering to keep track of what I did. If you think I'm recording details that you and others want, think again. Why don't you try it if you want to be more an al about it. So yesterday when you were stood on a hill top, spamming swarms at my tank, you wouldn't consider yourself, a sniper target and a tank target. Thats a self induced result. simple as A better version of your test would be to not highlight yourself on hilltop, with swarm cloads/trails, and play as the infantry you are. Of course the majority of kills were snipers and tanks if you jumping around in an opening on a hill, with flares in your hands and nano hives everywhere I take it you did not here about the event running this week then. Try moar. EDIT. LMAO. I bet if I had said you killed me when I was infantry, you woulda said '' get a swarm launcher '' Try again.
That map had 3 installations for you, that 2/3 were gone before you got there... dunno who got the turret at C "RDV and vehicle kills do not count"
so you're moaning listing deaths from unual circumstances(this event), when obviously, te results are marred by your own carelessness, thats like me standing in front of LAV runs all day and saying 82% of my kills were from LAV's.
All I'm saying is, that people record kill types, but purposley leave of the part were they were looking to be killed by certain weapons.
.raom yrT |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:02:00 -
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@ butthead.
I finished recording before the event week.
My corp m8s told me not to post because of numbnuts like you that feed on the forums.
But, meh I love seeing people like you post on here, makes me feel all warm inside.
Oh and affirm how dumb 90% of this player base is. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:06:00 -
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dumb becuase we actually look at these numbers, and before acknowledging them, want to know the circumstances behind them. Anyone can post numbers, just like you "90% of the player base.." comment, source? |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:09:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:dumb becuase we actually look at these numbers, and before acknowledging them, want to know the circumstances behind them. Anyone can post numbers, just like you "90% of the player base.." comment, source?
Your name............Yup perfect. |
Sgt Buttscratch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
455
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:12:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:dumb becuase we actually look at these numbers, and before acknowledging them, want to know the circumstances behind them. Anyone can post numbers, just like you "90% of the player base.." comment, source? Your name............Yup perfect.
Theres that predictable pattern us snipers love. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
612
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:25:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:dumb becuase we actually look at these numbers, and before acknowledging them, want to know the circumstances behind them. Anyone can post numbers, just like you "90% of the player base.." comment, source? Your name............Yup perfect. Theres that predictable pattern us snipers love.
Thanks, now the BS butthurt posts make complete sense. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
707
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:25:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP.
I've been run over a total of 45 times in the last six months, and rarely am I sniped compared to ARed. Also to people who've done other ones with actual posted public spreadsheets, they also don't have these obviously fictional numbers.
Something tells me your numbers were pulled out of your ass, or you like to park your butt in the middle of roads waiting for snipers and LAVs. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
843
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:36:00 -
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i think i got it, this guy doesn't avoid things that kill him IE snipers, must be easy meat for them, two stands out in the open (also helps to be sniper meat) so gets ran over and beaten down by tanks. 3 avoids combat with infantry(IE standing in the wide open areas where most infantry don't try and cross). so there im done... i can tell how you play without even seeing you. you should switch over to a scout suit, learn the snipers dance and pick up SL or Plasma cannon if you want a something differcult and use flaylock as a sidearm and run uplinks because well you hide from conflicts this will reduce your deaths a ton load. |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
614
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:37:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. I've been run over a total of 45 times in the last six months, and rarely am I sniped compared to ARed. Also to people who've done other ones with actual posted public spreadsheets, they also don't have these obviously fictional numbers. Something tells me your numbers were pulled out of your ass, or you like to park your butt in the middle of roads waiting for snipers and LAVs.
And something tells me.
A. you don't play.
B. you hide in the red line.
C. you don't play.
D. you hide in the redline. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
843
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:40:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. I've been run over a total of 45 times in the last six months, and rarely am I sniped compared to ARed. Also to people who've done other ones with actual posted public spreadsheets, they also don't have these obviously fictional numbers. Something tells me your numbers were pulled out of your ass, or you like to park your butt in the middle of roads waiting for snipers and LAVs. And something tells me. A. you don't play. B. you hide in the red line. C. you don't play. D. you hide in the redline. or you just stand out in the middle of the road being sniper meat/vehicles you know |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
614
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:43:00 -
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@ ladwar.
I didn't answer your post. It's way too stupid and does not deserve a reply. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
707
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:46:00 -
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Step one: Call in an LAV Step two, drive to your destination. Step three, hold and keep playing in cover at destination at city with a team, learn where you can cross to other parts without becoming roadkill. Step four: profit.
Oh, and never stop moving no matter what no matter where and never run or do anything in a predictable pattern, always assume there are snipers pointing at you at all times.
There, I just increased your survivability three-fold that way. When I get home later today I'll look up your KDR as well as WP/D ratio out of insane curiosity. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
72
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:50:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:DickMason wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP. Raw numbers? Taken with grains of salt Actually they look very accurate ...Red-line snipers are swarming all over the place, LAV kills are as regular as re-spawning in the battle, Tanks with their HIGH resistances are every where.. specially in the red-line. High Resists? You're a funny guy. More info please, such as what game mode and what suit/weapon do you run? Adv Commando / Adv Plasma Cannon / Adv Swarm Launcher ... AV specialist class.. so trust me, i know everything about SNIPERS and TANKS in the red-line. You use the plasma cannon as AV and say you know everything about AV? *laughs like a girl* I'll just step off this forum I know what the rest will be... |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1109
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:55:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:I thought I would keep track of 300 deaths in game. These are the results.
132. By sniper.
87. Run over.
38. By tank.
43. By every other weapon in game, from grenades to knives.
Over 85% of these deaths were to 3 weapons. I think this says a lot about this game.
Make of it what you will CCP.
+1 because this is the first time I can remember Warriors being helpful on the forums. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
843
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:55:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:@ ladwar. I didn't answer your post. It's way too stupid and does not deserve a reply. but you just did so lie much |
Cere Harkens
Cerulean Systems
7
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:01:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:KingBabar wrote:I Perhaps its time for Dust to "adapt or die"?
This ^ ... People are "adapting" by leaving the game, so people "adapting" = Dust death.
This type of attitude is often just a disguised way of saying that Dust needs to play like Call of Duty, despite the two games being vastly different. Dust is a tactical shooter and CoD is an arcade shooter.
People approach Dust with expectations based on what they're accustomed to and play this game as if it should be CoD. They do things in Dust that are apparently common in CoD like zerging the other team and standing around like idiots without making use of cover. They play the game they expect, not the game they have. When that gets them dead in Dust, they blame the game, not their game-play.
As an example, I was playing in a game recently where my side had lost all four objectives. What followed is what I've seen repeatedly; the enemy team pushed all the way to our redline, where our players were responding with sniper fire and tanks. The opposing team kept this up despite taking significantly more casualties than our team. This continued up until they ran out of clones and they lost the match, despite having locked the objectives down.
That's bad game-play, not a bad game. People need to stop playing with old (and bad) habits and instead play with smart tactics.
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