I'm not going to go into the details of how it works because it's complicated and will probably start a huge misinformed discussion. However the end result should be irrespective of whether a player is good because of their gear or their ability to shoot straight or out think the other player, they should be matched with equally challenging opponents.

Time (and many simulations) will tell if we are able to achieve that balance.

You HAVE to fix the Instant Battle Academy. There is absolutely no reason that New Players should be leaving the Academy after 10,000 WP. Theyre getting massacred.

My corporation did a Faction Warfare match in which the enemy team were all using starter sets ( Frontline - Assault/Sniper/Abti-Armor ) and some of us actually stopped firing altogether because it was so badly outmatched. We Q-Synched, which gave us the advantage of organization but this was just slaughter.

The final tally on their team was something akin to 07/93 with only the top five players landing kills. This is a PROBLEM.

New Players DESPERATELY need more time in the Academy and access to Faction Warfare needs to be cut off to Academy players, this is just senseless. To confirm this I have an Alt Character who doesnt even have 600,000 SP and just cleared 10,000 WP and is already out ofthe Academy. This BADLY hurting new player retention and it doesnt give them any semblance of a chance.

i would do matchmaking with 3 levels(until loads of people start hitting the 20 mill sp range):

1. they stay in the academy until they reach 15000 and have something like 1 million sp. if either of these if statements are not met they stay in academy.

2.From there matchmaking will take over and have a limit of 45000 war points and around 5-6 million skill point. again, if either of these requirements are not met they stay in this level of match making

3. after level 2 you get paired up with people that have more than the previous level's limit.

I think it would be hard for people to be abused if we switch to a similar system like this. could i get some feedback on this suggestion?

A. They were elected for being active inthe community, incidentally enough theyre actually pretty civil too.
B. You realize Kane Spero is part of the CPM as well, right? Youre basically questioning one of your own, lol.
C. They also dont propose bullshit solutions like 'leave it be' and then complain that its broken.

A. They were? Really?
B. I trust Kane as an excellent communicator. ALL CPM should be focused on connecting decision makers with those affected. The statement I quoted suggested CPM cannot even relay any conversations on THE make or break feature of this game. There is no reasonable explanation CCP considers it NDA.
C. No idea who you are talking about, but it sure as hell isn't me or anyone I respect. Perhaps projecting yourself?

They already said no to Loyalty Points. And the last thing we need right now is another broken market.

so i guess no one like this my idea?

+1

The OP speaks blistering truth.

Some of the guys in my corp have decided to make alts and try to reach out to these players. They would squad up with them and play.
Some of the new players felt it proper to just jump in an LAV and run people over.
They literally would say things like:
"It's better to just use the LAV, and run them over. Best way to get kills."
"My gun doesn't seem to do anything."
"I'm aiming at him but it won't hit."
"I'm going to skill into dropships because they seem really cool."

So from this we are seeing:
1. They have no idea how gun ranges work in this game (and the game offers no information on it).
2. Many issues with aiming and hit detection remain.
3. In light of the first 2, new players are resorting to LAVs and playing bumper cars, just to score.
4. They have no idea what they should skill into... Dropships is a BAD way to spend your money and SP as a noob.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.
10k WP later they leave academy, not even aware that they have "graduated", and get raped so hard (like in the match Aeon describes), that they quit.

Problem? Oh yeah....

starting off with 500,000 SP and 250,000ISK is a horrbible way to keep noobs in the game. what can you do with 500,000 SP?


I suggest that CCP adjust:

1. the new player initial unallocated SP to 2.5 million SP (with that much initial SP even if you randomly wasted it it wuld eventually become useful for you),
2. initial ISK to 1.5 million ISK.
3. they should have no skill CAP while in the academy,
4. should be able to respec at will while in the academy.
5. once they reach 4 million SP, they then graduate the academy and are informed that they are no longer part of the academy and that there will be no respecs, there is a skill CAP, etc.


most players now have way over 7 million SP. the least amoung experiences players is 5 million SP. with 5 million SP, you can take on even the toughest proto bear, if your skills are in the right spot. giving new players the chance to repec while in academy at will will give them a taste for what they like.

IMPS do us all a favor and not come inhere to ***** about **** thats irrelevant to the forum topic, seriously. You see a dev post and instantly go into troll mode, just shut up and not say anything if youre not even going to stay on topic.

The amount of total accumulated SP directly reflects the amount of player experience.

Directly.

Not necessarily. Someone could create a DUST account, create a character, and leave it be for, say, a year. During that year he accumulates cca. 8.5M SP just through passive skilpoint accrual. By current skillpoint standards that would almost make him a DUST veteran, and that's without playing a single match and firing a single shot. WPs have to be taken into account along with SPs to assess player experience and ability.
Actually, WPs are certainly more reflective of someone's player experience, since they are a measure of what the player achieved by actually playing the game, and not by doing nothing and/or camping in fights.

Not necessarily. Someone could create a DUST account, create a character, and leave it be for, say, a year. During that year he accumulates cca. 8.5M SP just through passive skilpoint accrual. By current skillpoint standards that would almost make him a DUST veteran, and that's without playing a single match and firing a single shot. WPs have to be taken into account along with SPs to assess player experience and ability.
Actually, WPs are certainly more reflective of someone's player experience, since they are a measure of what the player achieved by actually playing the game, and not by doing nothing and/or camping in fights.

Unless youre Logistics who hasno gun game but ridiculous repair/revive/resupply

Suffice to say, if the system can be abused it will be.