Queueing for faction warfare would be great if we can provide it, maybe even full team sync although this is particularly difficult to get working correctly.

The problem with divisions like certain classes of items is it splits up the pool of available players for the matching system to work effectively. So customization comes at the cost of reduced match quality or potentially long waiting times. This is all part of our experimentation at the moment though and balanced matches is the primary success criteria.

I'm genuinely confused why people want to continue to hold newbs hands even in lowsec.

I'm also worried that CCP would take requests like this seriously as if it would be a good thing.

At some point the training wheels come off and its time to fight and figure out how to getgoodGäó and you don't do that without playing "scary" players.

I'm concerned about the current very low population combining with this new queuing code.

When I asked Foxfour he said there is no method by which you attempt to keep people from being matched with the same people OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

If you deploy this and its horrible...you have a backout plan? You really don't need to leave something like this in place for a month and run the rest of us out of this game.

Actually the motivation for queueing in FW is more to improve the experience of getting into a battle because at the moment it is tricky to get an open spot. We are also designing out some changes to FW which should see it move to being more of a challenge than instant battle.

The new queueing is specifically designed to handle lower population which is one of the flaws of the current system.

If by "challenge" you mean some kind of wager like the old system? I don't like that. Complicated hasn't worked out so far. Leave it in PC.

Why not just have FW be simple.

We queue whatever size group we want into whatever side we want. Size 1-16 WHO CARES.

Matchmaking happens.

We either get a stacked team if available OR the queuing system brings together the best it can.

Fight.

Simple and gets us team fights.

Yes people might run into organized groups! SHOCKING

The might LEARN that its better if they organize by finding another squad to join them in queing first! What a concept.

Lets get some fights going.

Don't make it complicated.

"Hisec is where individuals learn to squad, lowsec is where squads learn to team"

The new queueing is specifically designed to handle lower population which is one of the flaws of the current system.

If there isn't something to fight over, that people want, that didn't exist before the fighting started, it isn't a good incentive.

Clones don't cut it. Gobs of ISK don't even really cut it. Heck maybe you should just give away ~10 AUR per 1000 WP in FW and call it a day.

FW officer weapon variants purchasable with loyalty points, in addition to increased SP/ISK rewards would go a long way in making FW the place to be for well geared players.

So as a few people have pointed out in this thread already that the academy itself is fine and actually meets our intended goal which is to provide a safe area to practice the first few games before being thrown in the deep end.

The problem is the deep end is very deep at the moment, and we need an improved matchmaking system to fix this. We are not happy with our current system and so are going back to the drawing board and creating a new matcher to provide more balanced teams. Think of it like a tier system but rather than discrete intervals of 0 - 10,000 WP then 10,000 - 30,000 WP etc we instead have a continuous sliding scale of difficulty and match players based on multiple criteria.

No ETA on delivering this just yet but it is a high priority (I am working on it as we speak).

Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make

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Something more like this, there is more to it but we're not ready to reveal details just yet.

So does this mean matchmaking won't take gear in consideration? Because I think its a good thing if it doesn't and just split population and create longer ques for proto , etc .

I think its better to balance the gear levels so one isn't better that the other .

You waited quite a while on PC to talk to us and all anyone could help with was fiddle numbers...

I'd like to be able to tell the boys that they will be able to login and get a team queue in 1.3

That and the FPS basics are what we need most.

You waited quite a while on PC to talk to us and all anyone could help with was fiddle numbers...

I'd like to be able to tell the boys that they will be able to login and get a team queue in 1.3

That and the FPS basics are what we need most.

We are still in the design phase, first step will be going through it all with the CPM then we can open it up for further discussion with players.

IMPS do us all a favor and not come inhere to ***** about **** thats irrelevant to the forum topic, seriously. You see a dev post and instantly go into troll mode, just shut up and not say anything if youre not even going to stay on topic.

Lick some more boots. I do not enjoy the taste.

What makes the CPM qualified to make that kind of decision?

So as a few people have pointed out in this thread already that the academy itself is fine and actually meets our intended goal which is to provide a safe area to practice the first few games before being thrown in the deep end.

The problem is the deep end is very deep at the moment, and we need an improved matchmaking system to fix this. We are not happy with our current system and so are going back to the drawing board and creating a new matcher to provide more balanced teams. Think of it like a tier system but rather than discrete intervals of 0 - 10,000 WP then 10,000 - 30,000 WP etc we instead have a continuous sliding scale of difficulty and match players based on multiple criteria.

No ETA on delivering this just yet but it is a high priority (I am working on it as we speak).

LOL.... i just have to bring this up because it is a crossover from similar games that can work. Planet side 2(two) has a real tutorial that not all front loaded text wall just thrown in and hey it does work for them, it throws new players with vets which we had before but without a real tutorial. so back to the point when is there going to be a real tutorial for in-game mechanics? the academy is w/e and doesn't scare away people right away but it is a band aid which doesn't help fix the issue just covers the area until new players leave the academy and then they come here dazed and confused while all kinds of scared of dieing a million times or they just leave all together because the skills they were meant to pick in the academy is not there 9 out of 10 and the deep end is not going better with a better match maker. but hey I'm leaving once PS4 comes out because of other more important issues so if you want to walk that road go ahead.

LOL.... i just have to bring this up because it is a crossover from similar games that can work. Planet side 2(two) has a real tutorial that not all front loaded text wall just thrown in and hey it does work for them, it throws new players with vets which we had before but without a real tutorial. so back to the point when is there going to be a real tutorial for in-game mechanics? the academy is w/e and doesn't scare away people right away but it is a band aid which doesn't help fix the issue just covers the area until new players leave the academy and then they come here dazed and confused while all kinds of scared of dieing a million times or they just leave all together because the skills they were meant to pick in the academy is not there 9 out of 10 and the deep end is not going better with a better match maker. but hey I'm leaving once PS4 comes out because of other more important issues so if you want to walk that road go ahead.

I never had a tutorial in planetside 2 ever and people still ask silly questions like how deploy sunder?

So as a few people have pointed out in this thread already that the academy itself is fine and actually meets our intended goal which is to provide a safe area to practice the first few games before being thrown in the deep end.

The problem is the deep end is very deep at the moment, and we need an improved matchmaking system to fix this. We are not happy with our current system and so are going back to the drawing board and creating a new matcher to provide more balanced teams. Think of it like a tier system but rather than discrete intervals of 0 - 10,000 WP then 10,000 - 30,000 WP etc we instead have a continuous sliding scale of difficulty and match players based on multiple criteria.

No ETA on delivering this just yet but it is a high priority (I am working on it as we speak).

+1

The OP speaks blistering truth.

Some of the guys in my corp have decided to make alts and try to reach out to these players. They would squad up with them and play.
Some of the new players felt it proper to just jump in an LAV and run people over.
They literally would say things like:
"It's better to just use the LAV, and run them over. Best way to get kills."
"My gun doesn't seem to do anything."
"I'm aiming at him but it won't hit."
"I'm going to skill into dropships because they seem really cool."

So from this we are seeing:
1. They have no idea how gun ranges work in this game (and the game offers no information on it).
2. Many issues with aiming and hit detection remain.
3. In light of the first 2, new players are resorting to LAVs and playing bumper cars, just to score.
4. They have no idea what they should skill into... Dropships is a BAD way to spend your money and SP as a noob.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.
10k WP later they leave academy, not even aware that they have "graduated", and get raped so hard (like in the match Aeon describes), that they quit.

Problem? Oh yeah....

Actually the motivation for queueing in FW is more to improve the experience of getting into a battle because at the moment it is tricky to get an open spot. We are also designing out some changes to FW which should see it move to being more of a challenge than instant battle.

The new queueing is specifically designed to handle lower population which is one of the flaws of the current system.