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Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
154
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Posted - 2013.06.25 06:51:00 -
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echo47 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:lol @ everybody critiquing the size of his post and tone. None of them even attempting to counter the issues he brought to light.
Skill does not matter in this game 'skill points' do. Ever here that voice before matches that says something a long the lines of, 'don't have skill? Buy Aur!'. Smh There is no point to counter the issues he brought up are all true, and everyone knows it. To send hate mail and post in GD about topics that have pretty much been "discussed" to death serves no purpose.
Lol, I just went back and read that hate mail I sent you. I don't know why you keep crying about it, that **** was hilarious, lol. It's a free country, I'll discuss what I want, so hush up. Go get your own topic, fatty. |
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:49:00 -
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So let me get this straight. You said that waaaaa waa wa waaa waaaa because of waaa waa waaa wa wa which is waaa wa wa waaa waaa. Correct me if I'm wrong but it kind of sounds like your whining. Sorry, that was kind of harsh. Try this. Put the controller down and walk away from the game for a week before you have game rage and break something which we will end up seeing on YouTube because your friend recorded you raging over a game. Bye now |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
42
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:07:00 -
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Eventually you'll rage so hard you wont want to play anymore, at that stage you'll buy aurum because you just don't care anymore.
Mission accomplished CCP, gj. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
486
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:10:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game. . . OP POST . .
Most those things can really happen in games. BUT There a kazillion other things which you didn't/couldn't list. Many of those are things requiring talent.
True, there are few brainfarts in dust still which all of us hope to get fixed. But saying there's no player skill involved in the game is dead wrong. |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
38
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:22:00 -
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"This game requires no talent"
Hmm...
Well if that was true...
I'd be kicking a$$ and taking names.
So far., I am just taking a lot of names of those kicking my a$$...
DD |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:23:00 -
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Yeah your whole monologue is bullcrap. If 70% of your deaths don't come from assault rifles with the next 20% coming from HMGs, scram-riflles, and snipers then we must not be playing the same game.
Well, and your terrible, because only people who are terrible die to LAVs on a frequent basis. Like your mommy told you, look both ways before crossing the street, and don't play in the road. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:28:00 -
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80% of my deaths during the day are from retards driving cars. it is just ridiculous when there is over six cars on the field. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:33:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:Yeah your whole monologue is bullcrap. If 70% of your deaths don't come from assault rifles with the next 20% coming from HMGs, scram-riflles, and snipers then we must not be playing the same game.
Well, and you're terrible, because only people who are terrible die to LAVs on a frequent basis. Like your mommy told you, look both ways before crossing the street, and don't play in the road.
I won't deny I do much better in this game than most FPSes. Most FPSes are complete twitch fests. This one requires you to use your brain, and it sounds like yours has atrophy from playing too much Call of Duty. it is annoying when there is over three cars plus your team mates cars that make you paranoid into thinking that they are enemy cars too, you just cant even play comfortably because all of these cars everywhere. this saying of looking both ways is just pure bullcrap and you can shove it up your ass. |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:35:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:80% of my deaths during the day are from retards driving cars. it is just ridiculous when there is over six cars on the field.
If 80% of your deaths are from LAVs then the ones driving them aren't the retards in this situation. Get out of the damn road. |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:37:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:80% of my deaths during the day are from retards driving cars. it is just ridiculous when there is over six cars on the field. If 80% of your deaths are from LAVs then the ones driving them aren't the retards in this situation. Get out of the damn road. not just the roads desperate drives even try to run me over when i am on top of a rock or hill.
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
98
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:38:00 -
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18 likes? For a QQ essay on:
Contact grenades MCC Sniping Murder taxis
Unbelievable.
While annoying, the above can easily be countered with changing your tactics/situational awareness. And in this, yes you are correct, no innate talent needed, just a small capacity to think. |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:41:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:echo47 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:lol @ everybody critiquing the size of his post and tone. None of them even attempting to counter the issues he brought to light.
Skill does not matter in this game 'skill points' do. Ever here that voice before matches that says something a long the lines of, 'don't have skill? Buy Aur!'. Smh There is no point to counter the issues he brought up are all true, and everyone knows it. To send hate mail and post in GD about topics that have pretty much been "discussed" to death serves no purpose. Lol, I just went back and read that hate mail I sent you. I don't know why you keep crying about it, that **** was hilarious, lol. It's a free country, I'll discuss what I want, so hush up. Go get your own topic, fatty.
Yeah it was hilarious, I laughed myself. For a game that is a joke you are taking it kind of serious. No tears here. I take my deaths like a true scrub.
Who, playing this game hasn't experienced what you described.
Why don't you rewrite your original post remove the unnecessary expletives and post it in Feedback/Requests then maybe, just maybe it wouldn't sound like such a whine.
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Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:43:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:80% of my deaths during the day are from retards driving cars. it is just ridiculous when there is over six cars on the field. If 80% of your deaths are from LAVs then the ones driving them aren't the retards in this situation. Get out of the damn road. Kalante Schiffer wrote:it is annoying when there is over three cars plus your team mates cars that make you paranoid into thinking that they are enemy cars too, you just cant even play comfortably because all of these cars everywhere. this saying of looking both ways is just pure bullcrap and you can shove it up your ass. I'd rather shove an LAV up yours because apparently you are too dumb and oblivious to move to safer ground and/or pull out AV when the enemy team is saturated with them. oh please i can sh*t on you. i fixed your error betwen |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:46:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:oh please dont bring me that bs desperate drivers will try to run you over no matter where you are.
First off no they won't, because most maps are filled with spots that are nearly impossie to reach with an LAV, 2nd if they go for the more questionable spots they have a very high chance of getting stuck or flipping themselves which is the number one way to get killed as an LAV driver.
Those that can smash you in a questionable spot have skills and deserve the kill, just like if you got 1-shotted by a skilled forge gunner. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1275
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:51:00 -
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This is a depressingly accurate summary. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
115
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:54:00 -
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Vehicle problems have you? Are you in: Open areas? -Swarm launcher, or forge gun for us husky types. Close quarters? -Same as above but with either AV or Flux (if thrown first) grenades. All areas? -RE's/Proxy mines. Not sure what the problem is. Rock paper scissors lizard Spock guys... |
Tharak Meuridiar
The Empyrean Agency
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 08:57:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:[quote=Tharak Meuridiar]how about you get down from your lav and see how tough you are.
I do all the time when I'm not fighting teams packed full of idiots. Ive found my HMG played strategically is a great source of easy kills. More importantly I get a lot of LAVs with my 0-ISK SL build.
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Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.06.25 09:51:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:@ Acturus
No, what's frustrating is not being able to do anything or having a valid chance at survival just because others want to pad their KDR and not go for objectives. Note how I said in most of my examples that I was heading to objectives, not looking for enemies to kill, where as the majority of people who use these tactics are not capping objectives. They are just camping one single square foot of space they know someone will have to step into.
@ hooc roht You can't do that when the maximum vehicle count has been hit for the map, which happens pretty often nowadays. Definitely good advice though.
Hi Asher
You are right, thank you for the reply. I have personally stopped getting frustrated being run over for the following reasons, I used to get really mad.
I changed my dropsuits and added packed av grenades. It is actually fun to hunt down the LAVs as they give allot of warpoints. I have made cheap dedicated LAV hunting suits.
Be very carefull if I am in a proto suit or other expensive suit, pay close attention to the sounds as you can hear the LAV before it reaches you or becomes visible on the radar.
It would be boring without LAVs, grenades, HAVs and dropships. The LAVs makes the battlefield more dynamic, I prefer getting run over by a LAV that I can counter with packet AV grenades then being sniped. |
Baku Amad
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:08:00 -
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My method of choice is to coax them into a wall,.jump on Hood, shotgun to face. Then drive it to recline.. especially if it a logi |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
120
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:lol @ everybody critiquing the size of his post and tone. None of them even attempting to counter the issues he brought to light.
Skill does not matter in this game 'skill points' do. Ever here that voice before matches that says something a long the lines of, 'don't have skill? Buy Aur!'. Smh
nobody will because they are all assholes who would rather sit around and call people n00bs for bringing up VERY valid points which NEED to be addressed. They are adding to the problem and are testament to why this game is failing and will fail.
Mr. X says "this is gamebreaking".
Mr. Y says " but I like doing that".
Pretty much, the babies just want their bottle. Unfortunately CCP will pander to their whim because developers only ever listen to people who complain and generally suck at the game and complain because of how much they suck.
Anything positive and constructive will be misconstrued as purely complaining. People gloss over the details and go straight to attacks.
Good job kids. Enjoy your game kids. |
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CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
120
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:28:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Tharak Meuridiar wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:80% of my deaths during the day are from retards driving cars. it is just ridiculous when there is over six cars on the field. If 80% of your deaths are from LAVs then the ones driving them aren't the retards in this situation. Get out of the damn road. oh please dont bring me that bs desperate drivers will try to run you over no matter where you are.
yup. especially when you HAVE to cross a large open part of terrain to get to the next objective and there are 3-4 LAVS driving up stairscases and cliffs to kill you. |
Crash Bandit
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:29:00 -
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Asher Night wrote: Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off
Possible fix to this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89523 |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
776
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:52:00 -
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Asher Night wrote: 1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare. OR 4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
1) Or make our TACNET actually reflect the capabilities that it should bloody well possess when technology has advanced so far. I wouldn't even mind a list view, like EVE, of all nearby units. It'd get a little long; I'd say make it optional and have an adjustable radius, with a transparency slider.
2) Many have discussed ideas to get people off the MCC. I especially liked the 'no floor' idea, although there are some gaping pitfalls () to that idea. Perhaps when people try to fire from the MCC, the bullet rebounds and kills the shooter, which results in -50WP?
3) Nerf the damage instead of remove it. The fused locus grenade has drawbacks: if you suck at throwing grenades, you may just kill yourself. Not to mention the possibility in PC to accidently kill your teammate because your finger slipped. Or perhaps introduce explosive damage-nullifying modules. Hell, a whole branch of modules could be introduced to nullify different damage types. Imagine a heavy tanking a blaster turret... lol.
4) Snipers should have perches, but dropships should have ways of getting around to those perches via routes which keep them safe from swarm launchers. Equip a Myron for speed and grab a shotgun scout and voila, the hills are yours. Basically , I agree maps should be altered to make sniper spots more accessible to the other team, but not by forcing snipers to lose their range. There should be ravines and gorges and canyons which snake around the outside of the map that dropships can fly in and pop up from, behind the snipers.
5) There should definitely be maps with more enclosed areas. Cityscapes are really tiny currently. Imagine the pyramidal structure that houses B in one of the maps currently, multiply its size by 5, and add even more interior pathing. The walls should also be wrapped in aluminium foil to screw with our radars.
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:32:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game.
Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.
Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.
Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar
Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC
Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV
Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade
Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over and urinated on.
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.
This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.
1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
OR
4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.
EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
The easiest solution would be.
1. When grenades explode there should be fireworks and some music, maybe the national anthem of the player throwing it.
2. Snipers should be given binoculars only, no weapons. These binoculars will have a mini strobe attached so everyone can see where they are.
3. LAV's should only be able to go from one "Taxi Rank" to the next along a predetermined route, if they deviate from this route, the player is fined. If they run on the pavement they will be instakilled. If they continue to deviate from the route a Concord LAV will chase them until they stop.
4. All Null Cannons should be inside buildings, through several doors, down some narrow steps so heavies cannot go in there.
5. All maps should have an area where the true skilled players can strip to the waist, get oiled up, and participate in Greco-Roman wrestling.
6 A high KDR should be rewarded with Trophies, Achievements, free AUR and Medals, Perhaps even a title next to your name.
Will CCP introduce these simple changes, I do not know, one can dream I suppose.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
334
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:00:00 -
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not sure why people are defending the OP.
it's a rant, he makes 3 complaints about 3 issue, he bitches and moans about everyone killing him, and calling anyone not fighting his style no skills scrubs, etc.
it's a rant nothing more and nothing less, all these issues have been discussed previously and to far greater detail, and with far more self control.
if this is the person you trolls wish to rally behind I feel sad for you.
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
596
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:08:00 -
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WOW............. This thread sure brought out the fanbois in force.
OP, those of us who know, know what you mean, as for most of the idiots on this post.
One of the biggest problems with this game, and what we have ended up with, is CCP seems to listen to these morons because they inhabit the forums rather than the game itself, yet think they know what they're talking about.
Chin up mate, PS4 is on the way, with a whole swathe of new and hopefully playable FPS's. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
334
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:17:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:WOW............. This thread sure brought out the fanbois in force. OP, those of us who know, know what you mean, as for most of the idiots on this post. One of the biggest problems with this game, and what we have ended up with, is CCP seems to listen to these morons because they inhabit the forums rather than the game itself, yet think they know what they're talking about. Chin up mate, PS4 is on the way, with a whole swathe of new and hopefully playable FPS's.
case in point |
ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
596
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:43:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:ICECREAMK1NG wrote:WOW............. This thread sure brought out the fanbois in force. OP, those of us who know, know what you mean, as for most of the idiots on this post. One of the biggest problems with this game, and what we have ended up with, is CCP seems to listen to these morons because they inhabit the forums rather than the game itself, yet think they know what they're talking about. Chin up mate, PS4 is on the way, with a whole swathe of new and hopefully playable FPS's. case in point seriously just quit....
All in good time scrubby mcscrub. |
Jay Westen
Atlantis Prime Mercenary Group
48
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Posted - 2013.06.25 14:01:00 -
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This post was quite entertaining.
Asher Night wrote:
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Obviously you weren't as skilled as you thought. There's counters to practically everything... AV I hear is really effective against Vehicles maybe you should try that. As for the grenades, maybe you should scout an area for players prior to running in all willy-nilly.
Asher Night wrote: 3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
Because these Contact Grenades are NOTHING like Noob-Tubes in CoD?
Asher Night wrote: 4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
OR
4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This one I'm going to rip apart. Panders to Distance?! ARE YOU MAD?! Do you know where people stop rendering in this game (I.E. They aren't visible.) 450meters... Your argument that, that is pandering to distance, GTFO. We're SNIPERS WE'RE SUPPOSE TO BE AWAY FROM THE COMBAT YOU IMBECILE! Plus there was something about 2 little pixels, sounds just like a sniper doing his job. BTW, if you spot a sniper and you get killed by a sniper like the 27 other times I've said it on this forum, get your basic free sniper fit and counter snipe. Easy Peasy.
BTW If he shot you while you were capping a point its not called camping its called defending, and it's doing ones job. Sorry bud. Did you expect him to let you just run in there and cap it and say here ya go? Maybe get you and espresso while you wait for your hack to finish?
Asher Night wrote: EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
Anytime people start asking for KDR from any other game, or mention KDR, You lose your validity in arguing. This isn't any other game. This isn't your precious COD, This isn't your sweet battlefield, where nothing matters but your KDR... Actually think about the situations before you charge in all craze like.
And to all you who say we're just 'fanboys' You're whats wrong with this, not the mechanics. Because you're the ones who are on this forum day in day out complaining just because you can't actually get any kills in this game.
Here this may help... Yes I am linking my own post.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=975478#post975478 |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
66
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Posted - 2013.06.25 14:05:00 -
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Jay Westen wrote:This post was quite entertaining. Asher Night wrote:
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Obviously you weren't as skilled as you thought. There's counters to practically everything... AV I hear is really effective against Vehicles maybe you should try that. As for the grenades, maybe you should scout an area for players prior to running in all willy-nilly. Asher Night wrote: 3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
Because these Contact Grenades are NOTHING like Noob-Tubes in CoD? Asher Night wrote: 4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
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4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This one I'm going to rip apart. Panders to Distance?! ARE YOU MAD?! Do you know where people stop rendering in this game (I.E. They aren't visible.) 450meters... Your argument that, that is pandering to distance, GTFO. We're SNIPERS WE'RE SUPPOSE TO BE AWAY FROM THE COMBAT YOU IMBECILE! Plus there was something about 2 little pixels, sounds just like a sniper doing his job. BTW, if you spot a sniper and you get killed by a sniper like the 27 other times I've said it on this forum, get your basic free sniper fit and counter snipe. Easy Peasy. BTW If he shot you while you were capping a point its not called camping its called defending, and it's doing ones job. Sorry bud. Did you expect him to let you just run in there and cap it and say here ya go? Maybe get you and espresso while you wait for your hack to finish? Asher Night wrote: EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
Anytime people start asking for KDR from any other game, or mention KDR, You lose your validity in arguing. This isn't any other game. This isn't your precious COD, This isn't your sweet battlefield, where nothing matters but your KDR... Actually think about the situations before you charge in all craze like. And to all you who say we're just 'fanboys' You're whats wrong with this, not the mechanics. Because you're the ones who are on this forum day in day out complaining just because you can't actually get any kills in this game.
You do realize that quite a bit of the folks qqing about dust are in top tier corps that straight out murder folks. take jumpman for example, he hates this game and jump is a straight out murder machine on every game he plays.
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