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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
120
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:27:00 -
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:I snipe from the mcc
bad company 1-2 + bf3 + 1943
every cod since 4-blops2
halo reach and 4
not counting obscure titles people might have possibly heard of
but never played.
you choose which game you want to compare your stats to mine and im almost positive theyre better than yours. but for what its worth; I agree this game takes no skill.
Then you should go in PC and rule the entire universe! What's holding you? |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
87
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:30:00 -
[92] - Quote
Any of the fanboys in this thread notice the 29 'likes' (people agreeing with) the OP?
Every complaint he has is 100000% valid. He did it in a bit of a bitchy way, but whatever. Obviously, no matter how obnoxious your responses are, he's correct in his complaints by a mile. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.06.26 13:11:00 -
[93] - Quote
Nemo Bluntz wrote:Any of the fanboys in this thread notice the 29 'likes' (people agreeing with) the OP?
Every complaint he has is 100000% valid. He did it in a bit of a bitchy way, but whatever. Obviously, no matter how obnoxious your responses are, he's correct in his complaints by a mile.
29/1200 x the coefficent of QQ does indeed = 100000%
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
794
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:24:00 -
[94] - Quote
Nemo Bluntz wrote:Any of the fanboys in this thread notice the 29 'likes' (people agreeing with) the OP?
Every complaint he has is 100000% valid. He did it in a bit of a bitchy way, but whatever. Obviously, no matter how obnoxious your responses are, he's correct in his complaints by a mile.
I don't think the fanboys are the people you think they are. |
Mightymedic
Atlantis Prime Mercenary Group
0
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:30:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:
Whenever I hear someone make this argument, I swear they've never even attempted to follow their own advice.
Try AV nades on a Logi LAV, see how many dozens of them you need to land before the thing blows up.
Funny thing, I was doing that last night. Not just AV grenades but swarm launchers, proxy mines, and AV grenades. Guess what it DID work. I know, must be magic. |
Vethosis
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
418
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:31:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:all this just to QQ about LAVs and sniping? o.0
You sir are full of rage - take a break, while I use my logi-lav to run over your team <3
and it DOES require skill.... points :D
I just realized you're a big fat troll. |
Devin789
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:41:00 -
[97] - Quote
Nemo Bluntz wrote:Any of the fanboys in this thread notice the 29 'likes' (people agreeing with) the OP?
Every complaint he has is 100000% valid. He did it in a bit of a bitchy way, but whatever. Obviously, no matter how obnoxious your responses are, he's correct in his complaints by a mile.
He is right, this game is created for pc players who would normally never stand a chance in fps, have the ability to dawn proto gear and beat up noobs. |
WamboTrout
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:20:00 -
[98] - Quote
Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game.
Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.
Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.
Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar
Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC
Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) Excruciatingly hop up half a hill. Run out of stamina Wait for stamina to recharge Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill.
Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade
Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on.
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.
This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.
1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
OR
4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.
EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics.
Let me solve your problem...
1.) LAVs: Look/Listen before crossing the street. Don't stand in the middle of the street like a dingus. LAVs make /a lot/ of noise, if you hear one, there is plenty of time to run for cover. Also: Proximity Explosives?
2.) MCC: This is a good idea but is in CCP's very capable hands.
3.) Nades: If people are using "Hacked" grenades, don't get close enough for them to be effective.
4.) Snipers/Forge Guns: Learn to dropship. Counter snipe. Cap a different objective.
You seem like the kind of player who is very stuck in their ways. DUST is about adapting to the task at hand. Try something different when you're losing. If you don't like it: Leave. Play a different game.
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freddy49 fix
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:39:00 -
[99] - Quote
Logi lav Proto vs starter fits Dropships lol
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2802
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:42:00 -
[100] - Quote
Vethosis wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:all this just to QQ about LAVs and sniping? o.0
You sir are full of rage - take a break, while I use my logi-lav to run over your team <3
and it DOES require skill.... points :D I just realized you're a big fat troll. Did that take you long to figure out? Must of been a real brain buster for you. |
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Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:41:00 -
[101] - Quote
WamboTrout wrote: Let me solve your problem...
1.) LAVs: Look/Listen before crossing the street. Don't stand in the middle of the street like a dingus. LAVs make /a lot/ of noise, if you hear one, there is plenty of time to run for cover. Also: Proximity Explosives?
2.) MCC: This is a good idea but is in CCP's very capable hands.
3.) Nades: If people are using "Hacked" grenades, don't get close enough for them to be effective.
4.) Snipers/Forge Guns: Learn to dropship. Counter snipe. Cap a different objective.
You seem like the kind of player who is very stuck in their ways. DUST is about adapting to the task at hand. Try something different when you're losing. If you don't like it: Leave. Play a different game.
So basically what your saying is: I need to be a dropship pilot who never gets close enough to anyone for them to throw a grenade, meaning I can't use the shotgun, knives, SMG's pistols, mass drivers, or HMG's, who has R.E.'s on him at all times and also snipes?
Dust isn't about adapting. It's about a game that has horrible gameplay issues and should not have been released from beta yet. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:59:00 -
[102] - Quote
pegasis prime wrote:
Wow firstly congratulations this must have taken a while ... now thst you have vented have a little thinkvabout this , if all these folks who pound you in various ways require or have no tallent how little tallent do you have being pounded in so many tallentless ways .
Not really, because I don't utilize these cheap methods for kills. What you basically just said is like saying I'm bad at poker because I don't cheat like everyone else at the table. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:23:00 -
[103] - Quote
I agree with this dude, he has the right to be mad over f'd mechanics. seriously this is war and people are playing GTA. I like that self-destruct option in the mcc. This game has a long, long way to go for it to be taken seriously, meaning playing how it's meant to be played. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:04:00 -
[104] - Quote
Talent? ITS A FREAKING VIDEO GAME! We dont need that stuff in a video game. keep your talents to your self. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:44:00 -
[105] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:Talent? ITS A FREAKING VIDEO GAME! We dont need that stuff in a video game. keep your talents to your self.
You're an idiot. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1837
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:59:00 -
[106] - Quote
Damn right |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:03:00 -
[107] - Quote
Ultimately I agree with the mcc/3 mile away sniper and lav spam. But once you learn maps and how to creep...a gex 38 is as deadly as anything. You need to play ambush. Save skirmish and domination for when you join a corporation. I dont play either anymore. Also try to join squads and stick with a good one once you find one. Seriously pub skirmish and domination are hell. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:07:00 -
[108] - Quote
Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game.
Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.
Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.
Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar
Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC
Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) Excruciatingly hop up half a hill. Run out of stamina Wait for stamina to recharge Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill.
Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade
Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on.
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.
This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.
1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
OR
4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.
EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics.
Sounds like someone is a baby. Try a PC match if you dont like pub. What a baby. Get AV stuff for LAV's Learn to kill some. Most of all QQ. Learn not to die so much you baby |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:15:00 -
[109] - Quote
There are other game modes then a skirmish and dom. Try it |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:16:00 -
[110] - Quote
GET ATMESON wrote:There are other game modes then a skirmish and dom. Try it
Do you often double-post? |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
45
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:47:00 -
[111] - Quote
You say all these things but see how all it does is bring out the epeening fanbois.
I think I can state the whole thing better:
-CCP is a company. -They want money for making games they say are fun and "groundbreaking". -They proceed to take your cash for "cool" aurum items. -Otherwise, they give you free stuff in hopes you will want to spend real money for said "cool" items. -They say they will fix things but don't seem to know how to do that. -They get some cash from said game. -They funnel said cash into their important game title and into their next "groundbreaking" game. -They sit back and laugh whilst counting the money. -They wonder why they aren't making any more money than before. -They ponder and write a public apology from CEO. -They get motivated again and make excuses about how they can make things better with the whole player base by hiring the few or one person who least represents the playerbase. -Fanbois rejoice. Their game intact just as they want it to be only because that is what it is and not because of any real game balance.
Whew! I give it a year tops. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
45
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:51:00 -
[112] - Quote
GET ATMESON wrote:Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game.
Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.
Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.
Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar
Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC
Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) Excruciatingly hop up half a hill. Run out of stamina Wait for stamina to recharge Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill.
Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade
Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on.
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.
This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.
1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
OR
4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.
EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics. Sounds like someone is a baby. Try a PC match if you dont like pub. What a baby. Get AV stuff for LAV's Learn to kill some. Most of all QQ. Learn not to die so much you baby
Funny isn't it how the children start name calling about gameplay as the adults start making observations about the quality of a product and the concern for the company behind it. That's the kind of environment CCP fosters. They already did that with EVE. I left that game due to it being reduced to a bunch of epeening children. |
Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:57:00 -
[113] - Quote
Asher Night wrote:Surt gods end wrote:psh.. next thing will be that RE should not be used as grenades. *quite dude!* NO ONE TOUCHING MY RE! Send OP to the NIGHT WATCH! The wall for him! How are the RE's in this build? I remember they were definitely being abused in a previous build. You could throw them like grenades, they had an insane blast radius, instant death... They were like the remote explosives in Perfect Dark (N64), lol. The only time I ever was killed by one is after I knifed the guy that planted it, then out of curiosity upon seeing this weird looking thing he placed on the ground, I knifed it. I found out pretty quick what it was.
This is pretty funny! Keep up the good work :) |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
962
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:24:00 -
[114] - Quote
JETSTORM1090 wrote:Did he just right us an essay?!?
I think you're looking for the word "write".
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
218
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:27:00 -
[115] - Quote
Too repetitive? Play Frogger. Gain respect, perspective. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:00:00 -
[116] - Quote
The OP has some points, and most of them I hope CCP is addressing.
I'm sure CCP knows these issues are their there.
Yes you are going about this in a scrubby way.
But does that invalidate any of your points?
Not one bit. And they all need to be addressed in some way. |
Kibarr Bojazz
REAPERS REPUBLIC
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:41:00 -
[117] - Quote
I want to start this by saying that I am a sniper and am not intending this as a bashing post, but just as my perspective. In any game that has jeep/light vehicles you will have the "issue" of being run down. Now I know this gets frustrating but it is part of any game that has vehicles (example halo and battlefield but i havent played much of the latter to know the physics of that). If vehicles are running ramped and murdering your team with impunity, then obviously you and/or your team deserve it if no one takes the time to destroy it. The same with snipers. Now I will say that I do not use drop ships to get myself to the top of a very tall building to snipe for a few reasons. 1 I suck with drop ships 2 I don't have drop links to respawn there in case someone gets smart and takes me out and 3 I would be a fairly easy target for anyone else with a sniper if I don't see them or shoot them first. One thing that i always do is check buildings/mountain ranges for snipers mostly because they aren't looking at me most of the time and are and easy kills. If you are having problems with someone on the roof of a building, chances are others on your team are as well and if noone takes the time to remove him, then your team deserves to let him murder you. I've never had any problems yet with the grenades so I won't say anything on it. As for the kdr, I usually don't see many people with over 20 kills in a match (the highest kills I can remember is about 27ish). Most of the time they are usually mid teens for kills. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
18
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:24:00 -
[118] - Quote
Right im an idiot because i just want to play the game. thats nice. you people are to much man. whatever happened to just playing a game? now all i ever get when i turn on a game is. OMG YOU HAVE NO SKILL or GET GUD SCRUB STOP DRIVING TANKS. cmon how am i and idiot for hating stupid trash like that? if your so good at a game thats fine but leave the rest of us alone. i mean if your so pro 1337 at this game the stuff we do should not bother at all. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
18
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:26:00 -
[119] - Quote
You guys say skill i say being forced to play in i way that i dont want to play. this mentality of "this is the way the game should be played" not only is it untrue its wrong. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
18
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:48:00 -
[120] - Quote
Asher Night wrote:So let me run you through a pretty typical game.
Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a contact fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.
Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.
Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar
Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC
Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) Excruciatingly hop up half a hill. Run out of stamina Wait for stamina to recharge Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill.
Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade
Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on.
How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?
Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.
This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.
1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.
2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?
3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?
4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.
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4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.
This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.
EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.
EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics. *sigh* if your lookin for talent then stop playing video games you guys dont like getting killed in cheap way but when will you understand that wargames are supposed to be like this. its war to hell with your skill talent and honor...id rather kill with with murder taxi you know why? because it war that why.......just sharing my opinion and blowing of some steam at the same time....-_- |
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