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Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
201
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am sorry but even a computer at ps4 levels can be brought down to an awful 10 frames a second because of a bug or bad code.
Don't put up strawman logic. YOu build your house on the best foundation you can use.
If your foundation is crap, you can have the prettiest three story house around, but that sucker is going to crumble soon.
Sir Petersen wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
This game has major, major FPS issues and problems with aiming stem from this partially.
major,major? I think it is you with major problems dude. I know aiming in this game takes getting used to. You might even need some skills. I understand this is not for everyone but blaming CCP for your own lack of skills is out of order.
Do you use a mouse in this? If so, you understand.
If not, you can **** right off. |
Mikael Murray
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:08:00 -
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PS4 wouldnt hurt dust.
Maybe not save it but prolong the inevitable |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5343
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:46:00 -
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I am not arguing against porting over to the PS4 I am arguing which should be a higher focus.
Fixing the game or porting as is. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
367
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:49:00 -
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So now CPM members are making threads about subjects already discussed to death and have zero content inside?
Great... Excuse me while I make a thread called "There's lag in some maps" in the subject and say "Fix it." inside. |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:50:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote: Also Iron Wolf.. i'm a professional game developer myself. I know that i appreciate it when people spot problems and give me details and possible solutions with justifications for them too.. as then if someone has a better outlook than myself, i can consider the better idea and improve the game as a result..
I develop also but not games, the thing i hate most is zero feedback, the garbage I write isnt that good and I ask for feedback all the time but get very little. I'd rather have bitches whinging and moaning than nothing, at least that way, even if its just vague trolling I know there is at least some kind of problem and roughly were and what it relates to, then I can fix/imrpove/change it
And porting should be a priority...
It'll only be harder to port later on once the game is more complex and be more difficult to utilize the extra resources of the PS4 |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3567
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not arguing against porting over to the PS4 I am arguing which should be a higher focus.
Fixing the game or porting as is.
i would assume porting it over would entail fixes since u actually not just copy and pasting since ur changing engines and updating everything................
but hey.......**** logic right? seems to be the CCP thing |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1322
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:30:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am not arguing against porting over to the PS4 I am arguing which should be a higher focus.
Fixing the game or porting as is. i would assume porting it over would entail fixes since u actually not just copy and pasting since ur changing engines and updating everything................ but hey.......**** logic right? seems to be the CPM thing
Fixed for this particular thread |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:33:00 -
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Being on PS4 on launch day will get CCP laughed at.
Look at this loltty game that nobody wants to play even for free! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5348
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:36:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Okay let me reverse the whole argument a bit.
If a game company cannot make a good game on the nintendo what chances are they going to be making a good game on the super nintendo?
Bottom Line
CCP needs to learn how to make a good shooter first. First and foremost, we can worry about PS4 later. Ahhh, looks like you have made it past some of your fanboi road blocks and are coming out of that CCP fantasy world of yours a little. So now that we have you this far lets keep this train rolling and how bout you let CCP know this ^.
Actually you finally took your rose colored glasses off, I was never the fanboi you imagined. :P |
Planetside2 OnPS4
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:40:00 -
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The more you stand up for us IWS the more respect you will receive.
Fanboism just gets you buried furthur than you currently are.
Reputation is everything on the forums. You are slowly regaining credit and respect.
Keep bucking the system for the good. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1857
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:43:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Release day consoles usually have better built qualities because companies often cheapen their materials later on when they finds out how. (See PS3) This is true... just like it's also true that day 1 consoles tend to fail more, because while they do use cheaper materials for later versions, they also fix many problems.
3 RROD 360s and 2 YLOD PS3s, yeah, I'm never buying day 1 again
Edit: And I'm fine with not being able to play PS2 games on my PS3, because I didn't throw away my PS2, cause y'know, that would be stupid. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me waves magic wand.
The PS3 Controller turns into a PS4 one, and the console that its attached/slaved to turns into a PS4.
Dust 514 still on screen in front of you as it is today.
(and no this does not confirm anything but instead shows you where focus is more needed)
8 gigs of ram and a monster GFX card.....
Yeah i don't know about saving DUST but with the kinds of frame fates one could achieve even with CCPs cruddy attempt at fps would be pretty damn awesome.
Quake 3 would be epically better on PS4 why wouldn't Dust be as well? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5348
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Posted - 2013.06.21 19:02:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me waves magic wand.
The PS3 Controller turns into a PS4 one, and the console that its attached/slaved to turns into a PS4.
Dust 514 still on screen in front of you as it is today.
(and no this does not confirm anything but instead shows you where focus is more needed) 8 gigs of ram and a monster GFX card..... Yeah i don't know about saving DUST but with the kinds of frame fates one could achieve even with CCPs cruddy attempt at fps would be pretty damn awesome. Quake 3 would be epically better on PS4 why wouldn't Dust be as well?
Because the bug that was causing horrendous lag rates was bringing eve side participants down to their knees as well and the players involved eve side for the investigation had some beastly computers that would give the PS4 a run for its money. |
kevlar waffles
Art of Assassination
5
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Posted - 2013.06.21 19:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:RoundEy3 wrote:As far as instant improvement, wouldn't the framerate be smoother? Like, a lot smoother? Everything that Dust releases has to work within the confines of the PS3 architecture. This limits map sizes, textures, models, and so on. So, assuming they optimize it to be smooth on the PS3, it wouldn't be better in most ways you can think of on the PS4 if ported as-is. This is the other factor, the ps4 version must be a 'similar' game so that when a ps3 player and ps4 player can play together on the same field. Now then asking to kill off the ps3 client in favor of a native ps4 one... that is a different argument with much more meat behind it.
If CCP kills dust for ps3 I will go shoot up a school |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
361
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Posted - 2013.06.21 19:12:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Washlee wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RoundEy3 wrote:As far as instant improvement, wouldn't the framerate be smoother? Like, a lot smoother? It still won't solve the other complaints about lag, hit detection and the sorts and the myriad of core, mantle and shell improvements needed and the process of getting closer to a more complete game. But it does give the dev's a lot more room and power to work with. Because Dust already pushes the PS3 to its limits. So if it goes to PS4 they will have an easier time working on it. It would have to completely move to the PS4 though, they would have to uninstalled the ps3 player base entirely. Tell you what guys, if the whole lot of you (like 95-99%+) swap over to the ps4 quickly it may get CCP to shift gears to get the ps3 client killed.
Nooooo leave dust on the ps3, the ps4 will be new dont spoil it
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
253
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Posted - 2013.06.21 19:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me waves magic wand.
The PS3 Controller turns into a PS4 one, and the console that its attached/slaved to turns into a PS4.
Dust 514 still on screen in front of you as it is today.
(and no this does not confirm anything but instead shows you where focus is more needed) I know I'm one who wants dust on ps4 but iws is rite...plus would dust still hard freeze on the ps4? |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.06.21 19:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hooc roht wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me waves magic wand.
The PS3 Controller turns into a PS4 one, and the console that its attached/slaved to turns into a PS4.
Dust 514 still on screen in front of you as it is today.
(and no this does not confirm anything but instead shows you where focus is more needed) 8 gigs of ram and a monster GFX card..... Yeah i don't know about saving DUST but with the kinds of frame fates one could achieve even with CCPs cruddy attempt at fps would be pretty damn awesome. Quake 3 would be epically better on PS4 why wouldn't Dust be as well? Because the bug that was causing horrendous lag rates was bringing eve side participants down to their knees as well and the players involved eve side for the investigation had some beastly computers that would give the PS4 a run for its money.
So wait....
One bug which is now fixed will keep dust from preforming better on a machine that has at least 10 times the power of a PS3?
Anyway good job moving the goal post of your argument.
You "Dust would be a the same game on a PS4"
Me "the PS4 is super friggin fast and would give the game a higher frame rate. A higher frame rate on the same FPS is a better FPS"
you "eve had a bug"
brilliant. |
Mitch M1987
THE SILENTS Diggers Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:06:00 -
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for those of you complaining about the transition and such. If you were an eve played do you remember what EVE was like in 2006 compare that with now.
I'm sure CCP took the same approach with Dust. DO you all miss what it took just to figure out how to link and make Dust and EVE function like they do now.
I would be willing to be with the better computing power and graphics the ps4 will bring DUST with be a whole new game |
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.22 05:09:00 -
[109] - Quote
Feedback appreciated
Here is what I think
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2042
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Posted - 2013.06.22 05:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1tw3Zcvo8 |
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Yani Sing
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:35:00 -
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You cant save dust, only hope to sustain. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:43:00 -
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Wants a nerf....
Then complains about all the nerfs...
One thing i like is that Planet Side two Devs apparently ignores the community...he complains about it but Dust has shown community game development does not work. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5356
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:45:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:
So wait....
One bug which is now fixed will keep dust from preforming better on a machine that has at least 10 times the power of a PS3?
Anyway good job moving the goal post of your argument.
You "Dust would be a the same game on a PS4"
Me "the PS4 is super friggin fast and would give the game a higher frame rate. A higher frame rate on the same FPS is a better FPS"
you "eve had a bug"
brilliant.
I stated the lag causing bug that was most generator of lag horrendous lag in PC (and possibly every game mode) was something that would have brought the PS4 down to its knees as well because it had so little to do with the graphical or memory hardware and more about why is the server blowing chunks to the clients.
BTW
Frame Rate =/= Lag
This game when not hindered by lag can run the smooth 30+ fps. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
296
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:53:00 -
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Meanwhile on Titanfall development... |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:18:00 -
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Omg. Dust is like kindergarten stuff compared to this. I'm so embrassed. |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:04:00 -
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dust takes 1 step forward while every other game seems to take a titan double leap forward dust is slowly slowly self titeling and getting out dated by other games that are also coming up with unique things to do |
Seri Vulk
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:26:00 -
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WASTED MERC wrote:dust takes 1 step forward while every other game seems to take a titan double leap forward dust is slowly slowly self titeling and getting out dated by other games that are also coming up with unique things to do In most mercs eyes dust took a step backwards on this uprising build. The next step HAS to be a giant leap forward just to catch back up to chromo.
The newest info saying they are going to be releasing tiny bits in more of the 2-3 month window (instead of 4-6 month) is a really bad sign in terms of content.
As you can see 1.2 was rushed out to save face, and is hardly what was needed.
CCP is floundering with dust currently and is in need of an overhaul in any form. |
ALAINAgg
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 22:12:00 -
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Why would CPM say save dust? Is dust in peril? There is over 5000 people on right now, is that bad? |
PlanetsideTwoBomber
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:08:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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GTfanop
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 03:26:00 -
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Yes 5000 during peak is bad, and I dont know why IWS would say "save dust" that is not very assuring. |
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