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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Unfortunately Soon(tm) is the only answer any developer can give you when the feature they're working on is not yet done or tested yet.
While I have a very good idea what the game is going to look like 10 years from now, I cannot tell you which of those features you are going to to get in what order.
Well that's a pretty big problem. How big an issue can it be for us to get a project prioritisation map? There is a difference between "Soon" and a reasonably elastic project map with reasonably accurate approximations. It doesn't have to be perfect but it does need to be truthful.
I know a lot of people here want all sorts of things added to the game but I can wait for that stuff, I really can. I don't care if it takes another year to get bombers or PVE or whatever into the game.
However, if 1.2 doesn't fix basic primary problems with the mechanics of gunplay and movement and matchmaking I'm gone. There is no point spending 1 more second of my free entertainment time (let alone $'s) on the game instead of the other 20 FPSs sitting on my shelf or Steam Library.
Now, for each person, the list of whatever burns them is different so we REALLY REALLY need a roadmap of prioritised issues so each person can decide, based on what is important to him, whether he stays or goes. If I need to afk for 6 months before the issues I hate get resolved, I want to know now and I can save CCP and Sony some bandwith and myself some time and frustration. |
MetalWolf-Cell
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:51:00 -
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I wish there was some kind of information they can give us but at the same time....CPMs can't.
As he said in his post, he signed an NDA, he cannot give any information regarding issues unless a DEV speaks of it or permission (if that's how it goes). Though I am sure he is willing to do it, but does not want to breach that contract, and get in serious trouble.
And I am not a software developer of any kind, just a gamer. But I have a lot of tech friends and some family members who work in these kinds of fields (you don't have to believe me if you don't want to, people say these things) and from my experience, there is no simplicity in the field, nor remotely any leeway. Either do it perfectly as meant to be, or you screw up, and possibly have to do it all over. It is a very tedious and annoying job to deal with. So i am sure DEVs are having a painstakingly hard time dealing with these matters as Iron Wolf Saber described, they are also relatively new to these things as well, and I am just happy they are at least still dishing out information here and there and giving updates every few months, because I know the issues and the insides on what happens in companies, and there is intel that is best left inside the company offices.
If you read my topic yesterday, you would know that I personally believe that due to the constant banter on CCP to their job in the comunnity's manner and not their own manner, most likely leaves them distraught on even responding to us, due to not feeling welcome at all. I understand this though, that some have been here for a year on end, even two years. But CCP is notorious for being slow developers that do not rush (you should hear about Iceland, people have a lot of breaks there from their jobs). They tend to do things on their own time, which is time consuming, but if I have to compare to EVE with its constant bantering, poor reviews, and horrible content, and still made a comeback with being a victorious MMO. Again this just me personally as to why CCP may not like commentating, because of the harsh demeanor some players put out, which I could see that they do love the game and want it to genuinely grow fast as other developers are working on next-gen games, But putting hate is not going to speed up the process.
I am no "fan boy" at all either, just a casual gamer who likes to play games, and I like this game so I play it. I am satisfied that they bothered to put up Uprising. With all of the negativity, they could have just done absolutely nothing and left it in chromosome, which would have led to lost of investments and angry players, including waste of content and precious needed time. so asking with all politeness and good heart as I am, to just relax. things are not that bad, could have been worse than you imagine, and be happy that they did listen to players, even though not to your liking, I mean hey FoxFour is talking about improving PC on his post and things about MD; he responded as needed.
Though things are slow, things are getting done without responses, and here I rest.
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JonnyAugust
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
247
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Posted - 2013.06.16 13:53:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:Why is it that some gamers feel so entitled, that they can tell pubs/devs what to do with games, as if they are the ones funding what happens with the games?
CCP will do it if/when they feel like it.
They could just take you money and end the Dust 514 service and take it to PC.
lol, let them. We'll be gone. Have fun playing by yourself since you were the one guy that decided he was going to stick it out for an inferior product that will take 6 years to be fun. Have fun wasting your life bud. |
Planetside2 SchitsonDust
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:51:00 -
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Yeah it has gone too far, borderline lying |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:55:00 -
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Planetside2 SchitsonDust wrote:Yeah it has gone too far, borderline lying
Ahahahaha... I recognize who's alt you must be. Not done complaining/promoting yet? |
DustisDoomed
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:36:00 -
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new players watch please for your own good
Vets voicing their opinions |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
630
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:50:00 -
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Oh man, when are you whiny losers going to take your butthurt saggy arses over to some other game so you can go ruin everyone's (forum) fun over there? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1747
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:07:00 -
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Seeing EVE's dev blogs just shows how much effort is going into this game right now. Dust 514 feels like a hobby and a commercial for EVE Online at best. They said they wanted as much EVE and Dust involvement as possible, reneged on that by adding the warbarge in PC and saying that they want Dust both games to stand on their own, but the truth is Dust can't even stand on its own two legs without EVE or anything to make it an actual MMO. I looked at Destiny and even FFXIV and looked at Dust, asking myself "What the hell is MMO about this game?" All we have now is a lobby shooter with a current build that failed to please both player bases that never left beta. We need PVE and some degree of EVE involvement that goes both ways. We needed this in beta and not having it really shows the blaring weakness of Dust that can't be fixed by improving hit detection and aiming. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
290
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:22:00 -
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SHOOOOTER wrote:We have been hearing this coming soon excuse way to long. Its basically an open ended disrespect to your customers.
We understand you need time to get things done. Fine. But communicate with us! Give us a road map. The whole soon Tm thing was cute for the first year. But we are loosing people left and right its time to get rid of the whole soon excuse and talk with us please! How long for new maps. How long for proper PC? How long for hit detection to be fixed?
No more soon excuses please!
And just how long have you been playing for bud??? As for myself ive been playing since july of LAST YEAR...... do you understand what 11 months of "soon" feels like?? not good, but im not presumptuous enough to go on the forums and call CCP out on disrespecting the community!! this build is ONE MONTH OLD, STFU, HTFU and wait for the next build to come out. Just like what ive been doing for the last year. |
General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:28:00 -
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PonyClause Rex wrote:Cosgar wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:Why is it that some gamers feel so entitled, that they can tell pubs/devs what to do with games, as if they are the ones funding what happens with the games?
CCP will do it if/when they feel like it.
They could just take you money and end the Dust 514 service and take it to PC. Hah! If Dust 514 moved to PC, it really would die. Hackers would have a field day just like any other F2P game before it. I think punk buster still exsists?
LOL.... you're joking, right? |
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kevlar waffles
Art of Assassination
2
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Posted - 2013.06.16 19:23:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:Why is it that some gamers feel so entitled, that they can tell pubs/devs what to do with games, as if they are the ones funding what happens with the games?
CCP will do it if/when they feel like it.
They could just take you money and end the Dust 514 service and take it to PC. Hah! If Dust 514 moved to PC, it really would die. Hackers would have a field day just like any other F2P game before it.
Im getting those horrible flashbacks of my Combat Arms days |
FoxFour Failed
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:22:00 -
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Hey look they copyright SoonGäó-¬ as well as trademark. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am sorry but developers don't want to give you features that are half done.
You have GOT to be kidding me. CCP absolutely loves giving us features that are "half done."
Hell, to be honest, I'd love to see some half done features in this game, it would be a real improvement. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1380
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:35:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Planetside2 SchitsonDust wrote:Yeah it has gone too far, borderline lying Ahahahaha... I recognize who's alt you must be. Not done complaining/promoting yet?
Considering he can make an endless number for alts as this game is free to play.
Not to mention, why can't we gain passive sp on all 3 characters? We can make endless alts for free so whats the point? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1380
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:37:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Seeing EVE's dev blogs just shows how much effort is going into this game right now..
Not just right now, they have mountains of dev blogs right after release in 2003!. The game was very rough and they wanted to make people keep playing despite the current state of the game by pulling more people into the communication. Didn't even have a CSM/CPM back then!
Eve is real, I was there. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.16 23:47:00 -
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I just asked them long time before 31st for respec i waited till now. Nothing. Everything what they sent me when i asked them after through mail, everything was just like from some PR-guide nad still no info and still no respec.
Today i sent all my ingame money to corp, terminate my ingame persona and deleted DUST 514 from Ps3
Enough is Enough |
Planetside2 GOTY
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 00:53:00 -
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Proof CCP has trademarked SoonGäó
Funny |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.06.17 01:38:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:We are not being entitled its the reality of market. If u can't keep up u need to gtfo. That's just the way it is. It might have worked for eve due to lack of compation but Dust514 has to fight with gaming worlds heavyweights and right now even as a free to play. People would rather pay 30 40 quid and play that instead.
Tbh I'm nearly done with free to play. I would rather fork over cash and know I was getting a good game. And not a tech demo
Which game releases content updates after month and a half after the release? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1772
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Posted - 2013.06.17 01:50:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:
Which game releases content updates after month and a half after the release?
How many games are in such bad shape that they have to? I can only think of one of the top of my head. I'll give you a hint... |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
164
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Posted - 2013.06.17 02:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:How many games are in such bad shape that they have to? I can only think of one of the top of my head. I'll give you a hint...
What shape? Game runs fine, plays fine and you are ranting over such small things that it is ridiculous for a free game. If you don't like it - wait for the next update or just gtfo. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1776
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Posted - 2013.06.17 02:58:00 -
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A dev told me and several other weapon users that they won't be fixing a glitch in our weapon until the next major update. That's not a small thing in a FPS, especially when you need to grind for a month or more worth of SP to invest into a game mechanic only to find out about the bug since it wasn't in the patch notes. F2P or not, that's pretty messed up. I shouldn't have to GTFO until the next update, I should be able to have fun now without a bug limiting my combat effectiveness... again, in a FPS that I had to find out about on a forum, not to mention in the wrong topic since it wasn't specified on the patch notes. Defend that.
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:09:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Cosgar wrote:How many games are in such bad shape that they have to? I can only think of one of the top of my head. I'll give you a hint... What shape? Game runs fine, plays fine and you are ranting over such small things that it is ridiculous for a free game. If you don't like it - wait for the next update or just gtfo.
You are completely delusional, this game plays nowhere near fine by any stretch of the imagination. Have you played any other shooter on the market? |
Brax Bates
Buster Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:44:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Cosgar wrote:How many games are in such bad shape that they have to? I can only think of one of the top of my head. I'll give you a hint... What shape? Game runs fine, plays fine and you are ranting over such small things that it is ridiculous for a free game. If you don't like it - wait for the next update or just gtfo.
What games do you play that make you think Dust runs and plays fine? |
PlanetSideTooPS4
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:14:00 -
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My in depth report |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:09:00 -
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I have been playing for 2 months now & I see no broken promises.
Not sure what yall talkin bout.
Sounds like yall crying, cus ur board |
FoxFour FailedPC
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:19:00 -
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People have a right to be frustrated, the game is boring right now, but it does have its bright spots in the future. |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:21:00 -
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I created a video of my concerns |
Planetside2 FreeonPS4
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:28:00 -
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Planetside 2 free on PS4 this year |
FoxFour FailedPC
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:02:00 -
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Planetside 2 free on PS4 this year |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:13:00 -
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Concerned fan |
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