I'm just going to assume this is an elaborate troll post.

CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did.

CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did.

I'm just going to assume this is an elaborate troll post.

Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan.

Lol ok, but still those games are going to damage this game we have grown to love/hate/love.

I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts.

Thanks.
And I agree.
The fact that we even bother to join the forums, its already more than what most players would do when they play such a frustratingly bad game.

I wouldn't outright say Dust 514 is bad. More like flawed and boring at the moment. DS 10 was right on all his points though, even the one about CoD. We need more for this game to be successful. Back in Chrome, my argument was that unlike those AAA floozies that put out after you spend $60 and another $30~40 for her sister DLC to join in, Dust is like that girl you meet at a party, get to know, date for a while, and later move in with. She may not be the prettiest, the best cook, or even the best in the sack, but you'll be glad you met her. Unfortunately with the competition so fierce, Dust is turning into that mistress you spend time with because she's free and you're still waiting on/can't afford Ms. Retail...

Best analogy ever!

Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts.

I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514.
My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on!
I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while.
Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different.
The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps?
And content wise we barely got anything.
In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect.

I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar.
I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced.
I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it.
But I'm starting to get tired of this game.
The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun.
With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console.
These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either.
Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!...
What else?
What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection?
This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT.
Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now?
And you still don't have the aiming nailed down?
You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included.
I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust.
But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent.
Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything.
This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear.
I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did.

Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5c

Please CCP.

And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine
If by some miracle, this game survives into the next 2 years, I might come back, but it doesn't seem like its going to happen.

Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now?And you still don't have the aiming nailed down?

the current gameplay is not enough for dust 514 to be successful.

edit: meaning at its current rate dust 514 is doomed to failure

TL;DR

Learn how to paragraph the correct way, its still a wall of text.

Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts.

I am an EVE fanboy and I am appalled at CCP's content releasing. Too little, too far in between. EVE did not have all the flashy stuff it does now. When I first tried EVE WAY back when it was like a year or 2 old, it SUCKED, bad. Then I tried it a few years later and have been paying ever since. Console gamers are NOT that patient compared to PC gamers, we can see that ofc.

If CCP would release some new stuff in small patches, that would be excellent. Every 3 months or so wont cut it for a few new guns and suits. I'd be happier for 2-3 new things in weekly patches and tweak them with hot fixes. Then add new variants of whatever it was with a new build b/c they SHOULD be balanced by then. I mean, I dont really know how Sony works with all the stuff CCP makes and puts out.... Just my 2 cents

At the first few years of EVE CCP made updates like rabbits on heat.
Then the boot.ini stuff happened so they started working slowly to make sure **** like that doesn't happen again.

Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts.

I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514.
My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on!
I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while.
Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different.
The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps?
And content wise we barely got anything.
In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect.

I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar.
I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced.
I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it.
But I'm starting to get tired of this game.
The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun.
With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console.
These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either.
Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!...
What else?
What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection?
This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT.
Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now?
And you still don't have the aiming nailed down?
You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included.
I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust.
But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent.
Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything.
This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear.
I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did.

Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5c

Please CCP.

And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine
If by some miracle, this game survives into the next 2 years, I might come back, but it doesn't seem like its going to happen.

Have you seen the 33 minute video from E3 that was posted today?

CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did.

At the first few years of EVE CCP made updates like rabbits on heat.
Then the boot.ini stuff happened so they started working slowly to make sure **** like that doesn't happen again.

Have you seen the 33 minute video from E3 that was posted today?

lol what no so much wrong here.

Yes.
So?
CCP have promised many things and delivered half baked versions of what they said.
I won't be drinking the kool aid any longer, I will believe it when i see it with my own eyes.

Also, those new plates put a sour taste in my mouth for the whole trailer

I wasn't there from the start.
I have a friend who has been playing it from 2003 and that's what he told me.

I think the control issues where they went down the road of trying to balance KB/M with DS3 have done a lot to wreck the overall player satisfaction in this game. Better FPS developers have tried to balance the two and failed miserably, never to try again.

99% of the people who download this game are going to playing in their living room.
No one wants to sit under their coffee table to use a KB/M - yet they still went that direction like it was a selling point to anyone other than the 20+ Eve nerds who hooked their PS3 up to their computer monitor.

Basically, we have a situation where zero out of the three control schemes work at their optimum and the more they try the harder they fail.
I'm going to have to recommend that they dump KB/M for now and get DS3 working right first. It would go a long way toward keeping the occasional new player that shows his face there.

You just said what the majority of the community is thinking, in one long, serious, coherent thread. Kudos to you sir.

Don't go away mad... just go away.

Blah blah blah... you obviously aren't being forced to go away because you are still here QQing up a storm! ;)

Seriously, it's okay to take a break for a while... it beats trying to force CCP to do what you want by yelling so loud that they can't ignore you.

If I didn't care about this game you wouldn't even know I exist.
Heck I wouldn't even bother checking if this game has a forum.
Stop being blind fanboy, this game is going to die if CCP doesn't start fulfilling their promises and get into gear.

In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect.

WRONG!

name one game that was developed in 14 months.

Development takes from 2 to 3 years....with lots of games taking much longer.

This game has been in development for more than that.

Hell, the first "trailer" was at E3 over 2 years ago.



For the amount of time they had, to have this as their "launch", it is one of the worst launch of FPS ever.

Hell, its the first game on console you could spend real money in a "beta".

I have played beta in other games and usually all items were free due to balancing.

I paid anyway, because I believed in the dream.

Now that the beta is over and we arent satisfied with the game, we cant get a refund.

Pretty under-handed IMO.

WRONG!

name one game that was developed in 14 months.

Development takes from 2 to 3 years....with lots of games taking much longer.

You know the Walking Dead game was developed in around 14 months and season 2 will also fit roughly in that time span if it releases this autumn like Telltale wants
Then there are all the various sports games and COD has a new game out each year but I believe they alternate development teams and I have no idea how much of a break they take between games

Point being a lot of teams are able to publish a game in less than a year and a half and not just publish it but publish it with no content missing and gameplay that is up to the standard

Blah blah blah... you obviously aren't being forced to go away because you are still here QQing up a storm! ;)

Thats because the game still has time to get fixed, the fact he is still here and many of us are still here, is that we love this game so much we actually have hope it will be fixed and up to speed in ~6 months.

What I'm trying to say in a nutshell.

Blah blah blah... you obviously aren't being forced to go away because you are still here QQing up a storm! ;)

WRONG!

name one game that was developed in 14 months.

Development takes from 2 to 3 years....with lots of games taking much longer.

CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did.

As i keep stating this game has been around for over 5 years do some searching with 12 months of beta that makes 6 years early footage looked much better game play wise than what we have now.

Question --- shouldn't this game be good now with over 6 years in development ?

The E3 2011 trailer was definetly not rendered in the carbon engine. If you look at the modelling and notice the graphical style similarities, it is much closer to the chrrent build than the previews from 2009 and 2010... Just touched up with some post effect editing.

This means they were working with the Unreal Engine since at least 2010 to get all those assets modeled and rendered in game. If you give it a mid 2010 start date for use of Unreal Engine, that means they have had at least DUST in development for 24 months roughly prior to closed beta starting, and now a total of 36 months of development at this moment.

...and they still don't have basic movement and shooting down? Wtf were they doing?

The E3 2011 trailer was definetly not rendered in the carbon engine. If you look at the modelling and notice the graphical style similarities, it is much closer to the chrrent build than the previews from 2009 and 2010... Just touched up with some post effect editing.

This means they were working with the Unreal Engine since at least 2010 to get all those assets modeled and rendered in game. If you give it a mid 2010 start date for use of Unreal Engine, that means they have had at least DUST in development for 24 months roughly prior to closed beta starting, and now a total of 36 months of development at this moment.

...and they still don't have basic movement and shooting down? Wtf were they doing?

Yes game is boring and not fun nuff said.

Vote with your wallet!

Yes game is boring and not fun nuff said.

Vote with your wallet!

Not like planetside is any better :\, Destiny is my go to game.

Let's face the facts here, Dust 514 will never be able to surpass what established developers put out. Between their inexperience with the console market, Sony looking over their shoulder, and how ADHD FPS consumers are, it's never going to happen. But if they fire out updates 11 times a year and the don't repeat another Uprising again, Dust 514 will at least be able to compete. It may never be the best, but as long is it's one of the best, that will be enough to keep me coming back.

On a side note, if they can get the Carbon engine to work on PS4... all of my money, just all of it....

....
Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now?
And you still don't have the aiming nailed down?
You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included.
....
Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything.

i dont think its got that bad yet

It is getting that bad. I am very patient and you can call me a fan boy but the OP is correct. We are digging a deep hole that might end up being a grave.

I wouldn't outright say Dust 514 is bad. More like flawed and boring at the moment..

Wait...Flaw and boring is not bad?
Why would anyone play something that is boring and flawed?

If its flawed but entertaining/ fun, sure, I mean its fun, who cares if its somewhat flawed, right?
But if its not even fun, what's good about it?

What happens when all feel like this do go away as you say, enjoy your empty game world.

You need to realise for a game like this to work you need every one on board not just the fan boys or the down ward spiral will continue, you need to ask people to stay and not be so short sighted.

Yes, finally someone who gets it. Negative thinking breeds negative result. Yes this game has flaws, but they are fixable. There is no game out there without flaws and glitches, NONE. When ps4 hits and we are all playing ps2 we will have many complaints and find glitches, just right now this is the game we are playing. Go play cod that you pay 60 bucks for and look at the flaws and connect issues and troll thier forums, you'll see a lot of the same complaints. I remain positive and hopefull. Also new players that join the forums to learn about this game and get help from some of us senior players get turned off by all the negativity, leading to player drop off, the bigger problem this game has my friends.

Dust is so bad, all the Internet trolls are making serious posts.

I'm with you OP. Right now I'm more excited about seeing all the games at E3.

CCP you got until the PS4 goes on sale. Then I'm out.

Last I checked, new players barely come on here unless to tell us they're quitting because they don't feel like grinding for months while padding someone else's KDR. Yeah, foregoing matchmaking was totally worth it...

They do have matchmaking.
But either its not working properly, or the game is so bad they can't get a good enough pool of players to pull from to match us.
Or both.

The matchmaking is based off of the ELO system. This means that player SP and gear choices are not thrown into the equation, therefore the broken system we have now. The new system (from the E3 presentation) will supposedly address this issue.

Feel free to flame / rage at the fanboi. I enjoy cigar burns on my arm. Just... please call me scum as you do it.

Don't understand your last sentence.
But what you did just tell me is that its working properly, just that the system itself is bad.
Hmm...

What I meant by the last line was that whenever someone posts in defense of the game, they're immediately covered in raw steak and thrown into a bear cave. Quite brutal, really :v

You cant please them all.

what do they say here in new eden Harden the Fuch up

Dust 514: You can't please them all, so we just don't try.

But most games can please most players who play them

You just said what the majority of the community is thinking, in one long, serious, coherent thread. Kudos to you sir.

Why would ccp need to keep you happy?

The game is free.

Why would ccp need to keep you happy?

The game is free.

Why would ccp need to keep you happy?

The game is free.

LOL @ Crash Monsters! I smell "meta-game" on the way...

CCP needs to build a game without so many issues that irritate people... all the rest is just whiny noise by people who don't seem to realize that everyone has an opinion and that theirs is no more important than anyone else's.

So you want ccp to make another game?

LOL @ Crash Monsters! I smell "meta-game" on the way...

CCP needs to build a game without so many issues that irritate people... all the rest is just whiny noise by people who don't seem to realize that everyone has an opinion and that theirs is no more important than anyone else's.

If you don't like the game leave.
If you want to like the game
a) take a break
b) don't play as much

Hope this helped

lol

Funny, but your opinion is in the minority.
Look at the forums.
Look at the reviews.
This game is broken at its core, and it needs fixing.
And CCP should listen because they want our money, if the game is broken, we won't be satisfied hence no money.
BTW
I am a paying customer.
Well, WAS, a paying customer.

If you don't like the game leave.
If you want to like the game
a) take a break
b) don't play as much

Hope this helped

lol

Yes the game is dying, but you dont have to promote the fact

Dust is so bad, all the Internet trolls are making serious posts.

I'm with you OP. Right now I'm more excited about seeing all the games at E3.

CCP you got until the PS4 goes on sale. Then I'm out.

Sadly, i can find nothing to argue with the OP about.

It boggles the mind, but i think CCP have actually managed to put themselves in a position where they are running out of time.

Given the goodwill capital they had from gamers going into this project that is flat-out astounding. The fact that any of us are still here is testament to that fact - if DUST wasn't part of New Eden it wouldn't hold my attention for even one month.

Bad decisions were made in Shanghai - a long string of very good decisions is now required to haul you ass out of the fire CCP.

Who is you best decision maker?

I'm guessing the player counts will drop by 70%.
Then only the die hard fanboys that can't see the faults in it will remain.
Or maybe this game will become good and it won't be hit by those releases, but who knows.
I don't have any hopes for this game anymore.

"For example wee saw BF4 commander mode YEARS ago for Dust 514."
Commander mode has existed since BF2, way before Dust 514 was even in the planning stage.

Thread Resurrection V get.

+1

Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan.

This thread is just screaming for a "grumpy cat" meme.

You people disappoint me.

...
MAKE IT SO!

Sigh. Fine.

I guess if you want something done right, you've got to do it yourself:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37428967.jpg

Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan.