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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:18:00 -
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Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts.
I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514. My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on! I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while. Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different. The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps? And content wise we barely got anything. In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect.
I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar. I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced. I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it. But I'm starting to get tired of this game. The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun. With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console. These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either. Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!... What else? What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection? This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT. Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now? And you still don't have the aiming nailed down? You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included. I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust. But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent. This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear. I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did.
Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5c
Please CCP.
And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
333
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:21:00 -
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I'm just going to assume this is an elaborate troll post. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
224
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:21:00 -
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CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did. |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
147
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:23:00 -
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Took you long enough.
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
502
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:24:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I'm just going to assume this is an elaborate troll post. No, this time I'm serious. This game is a trainwreck of a mess, I have been supporting it for 14 months, providing feedback and dropping money on it to support the devs since they have an idea that I love. But enough is enough. |
Gregor stormwalker
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
43
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:26:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did.
i dont think its got that bad yet |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1451
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:27:00 -
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I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
504
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:29:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did. Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3648
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:32:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I'm just going to assume this is an elaborate troll post.
Really?
It sounds pretty familiar to me....
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
224
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:40:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did. Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan.
Lol ok, but still those games are going to damage this game we have grown to love/hate/love. I really like this game, this game has so far been the most immersive FPS I have ever played and should serve as a model for future games. This game has so much potential and we have seen that potential back in 2009. Everything all these new games offer CCP has offered us and we have seen in Fanfest videos already. For example wee saw BF4 commander mode YEARS ago for Dust 514. |
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
506
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:42:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did. Nah, not even Dust can get stomped like the Xbox Juan. Lol ok, but still those games are going to damage this game we have grown to love/hate/love. I'm guessing the player counts will drop by 70%. Then only the die hard fanboys that can't see the faults in it will remain. Or maybe this game will become good and it won't be hit by those releases, but who knows. I don't have any hopes for this game anymore.
"For example wee saw BF4 commander mode YEARS ago for Dust 514." Commander mode has existed since BF2, way before Dust 514 was even in the planning stage. |
CCPs Incompetency
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:44:00 -
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Hey look at my name
Yes ccp is too slow and that will kill the game.
http://youtu.be/eW7mASPUeec?t=32s
This is the competition speaking |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
506
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts. Thanks. And I agree. The fact that we even bother to join the forums, its already more than what most players would do when they play such a frustratingly bad game. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1457
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:53:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cosgar wrote:I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts. Thanks. And I agree. The fact that we even bother to join the forums, its already more than what most players would do when they play such a frustratingly bad game. I wouldn't outright say Dust 514 is bad. More like flawed and boring at the moment. DS 10 was right on all his points though, even the one about CoD. We need more for this game to be successful. Back in Chrome, my argument was that unlike those AAA floozies that put out after you spend $60 and another $30~40 for her sister DLC to join in, Dust is like that girl you meet at a party, get to know, date for a while, and later move in with. She may not be the prettiest, the best cook, or even the best in the sack, but you'll be glad you met her. Unfortunately with the competition so fierce, Dust is turning into that mistress you spend time with because she's free and you're still waiting on/can't afford Ms. Retail... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
145
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:02:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cosgar wrote:I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts. Thanks. And I agree. The fact that we even bother to join the forums, its already more than what most players would do when they play such a frustratingly bad game. I wouldn't outright say Dust 514 is bad. More like flawed and boring at the moment. DS 10 was right on all his points though, even the one about CoD. We need more for this game to be successful. Back in Chrome, my argument was that unlike those AAA floozies that put out after you spend $60 and another $30~40 for her sister DLC to join in, Dust is like that girl you meet at a party, get to know, date for a while, and later move in with. She may not be the prettiest, the best cook, or even the best in the sack, but you'll be glad you met her. Unfortunately with the competition so fierce, Dust is turning into that mistress you spend time with because she's free and you're still waiting on/can't afford Ms. Retail...
Best analogy ever! |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
507
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cosgar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cosgar wrote:I know you care, a lot of people that kitten post on us care more about this game than blind fanboys because we're honest enough to give criticism whether it's constructive or not. Hell, we care so much that it's hard to express it in words and it comes out in the form of kitten posts. Thanks. And I agree. The fact that we even bother to join the forums, its already more than what most players would do when they play such a frustratingly bad game. I wouldn't outright say Dust 514 is bad. More like flawed and boring at the moment. DS 10 was right on all his points though, even the one about CoD. We need more for this game to be successful. Back in Chrome, my argument was that unlike those AAA floozies that put out after you spend $60 and another $30~40 for her sister DLC to join in, Dust is like that girl you meet at a party, get to know, date for a while, and later move in with. She may not be the prettiest, the best cook, or even the best in the sack, but you'll be glad you met her. Unfortunately with the competition so fierce, Dust is turning into that mistress you spend time with because she's free and you're still waiting on/can't afford Ms. Retail... Best analogy ever! Made me chuckle lol |
Starne
Planetary Response Organization
26
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:08:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts. I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514. My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on! I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while. Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different. The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps? And content wise we barely got anything. In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect. I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar. I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced. I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it. But I'm starting to get tired of this game. The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun. With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console. These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either. Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!... What else? What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection? This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT. Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now? And you still don't have the aiming nailed down? You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included. I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust. But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent. Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything. This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear. I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did. Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5cPlease CCP. And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine If by some miracle, this game survives into the next 2 years, I might come back, but it doesn't seem like its going to happen.
I do hope this game makes it I loved the idea be hide it but Im really tired of the same old game play that we had in beta. im guessing that most of the games that will be coming out soon have been in production for as long as dust and look way better with way more things in them. right now in dust its just shot some people buy some stuff shot more people and get dced lol at least that's how it goes for me. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
807
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:15:00 -
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Completely agree. +1 OP |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
190
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:24:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now?And you still don't have the aiming nailed down?
I was going to post this in the aiming thread (and still may) but I just put $100 dowm at gamestop to pre-order the ps4 if CCP can fix the aiming and let us out of the box they call maps ill refund that ***** and buy $100 in aurum... |
Major Stewie
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:25:00 -
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current gameplay is not enough for dust 514 to be successful. |
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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
512
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:55:00 -
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Major Stewie wrote:the current gameplay is not enough for dust 514 to be successful.
edit: meaning at its current rate dust 514 is doomed to failure Yup, what I'm saying in a nutshell. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
107
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:04:00 -
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TL;DR
Learn how to paragraph the correct way, its still a wall of text. |
Second Cerberus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:11:00 -
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OP, I am reporting this thread for trolling... er, truthfulness? |
Reefersmokintaz
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:20:00 -
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I am an EVE fanboy and I am appalled at CCP's content releasing. Too little, too far in between. EVE did not have all the flashy stuff it does now. When I first tried EVE WAY back when it was like a year or 2 old, it SUCKED, bad. Then I tried it a few years later and have been paying ever since. Console gamers are NOT that patient compared to PC gamers, we can see that ofc.
If CCP would release some new stuff in small patches, that would be excellent. Every 3 months or so wont cut it for a few new guns and suits. I'd be happier for 2-3 new things in weekly patches and tweak them with hot fixes. Then add new variants of whatever it was with a new build b/c they SHOULD be balanced by then. I mean, I dont really know how Sony works with all the stuff CCP makes and puts out.... Just my 2 cents |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
517
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:35:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:TL;DR
Learn how to paragraph the correct way, its still a wall of text.
Cat Merc wrote: Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts.
I always try to refine my threads slowly to make them more coherent, but I never get it on the first go. I don't have time now to do it, but later today. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
521
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:24:00 -
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Reefersmokintaz wrote:I am an EVE fanboy and I am appalled at CCP's content releasing. Too little, too far in between. EVE did not have all the flashy stuff it does now. When I first tried EVE WAY back when it was like a year or 2 old, it SUCKED, bad. Then I tried it a few years later and have been paying ever since. Console gamers are NOT that patient compared to PC gamers, we can see that ofc.
If CCP would release some new stuff in small patches, that would be excellent. Every 3 months or so wont cut it for a few new guns and suits. I'd be happier for 2-3 new things in weekly patches and tweak them with hot fixes. Then add new variants of whatever it was with a new build b/c they SHOULD be balanced by then. I mean, I dont really know how Sony works with all the stuff CCP makes and puts out.... Just my 2 cents At the first few years of EVE CCP made updates like rabbits on heat. Then the boot.ini stuff happened so they started working slowly to make sure **** like that doesn't happen again. |
Ignatius Crumwald
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
564
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:44:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Reefersmokintaz wrote:I am an EVE fanboy and I am appalled at CCP's content releasing. Too little, too far in between. EVE did not have all the flashy stuff it does now. When I first tried EVE WAY back when it was like a year or 2 old, it SUCKED, bad. Then I tried it a few years later and have been paying ever since. Console gamers are NOT that patient compared to PC gamers, we can see that ofc.
If CCP would release some new stuff in small patches, that would be excellent. Every 3 months or so wont cut it for a few new guns and suits. I'd be happier for 2-3 new things in weekly patches and tweak them with hot fixes. Then add new variants of whatever it was with a new build b/c they SHOULD be balanced by then. I mean, I dont really know how Sony works with all the stuff CCP makes and puts out.... Just my 2 cents At the first few years of EVE CCP made updates like rabbits on heat. Then the boot.ini stuff happened so they started working slowly to make sure **** like that doesn't happen again.
I think the control issues where they went down the road of trying to balance KB/M with DS3 have done a lot to wreck the overall player satisfaction in this game. Better FPS developers have tried to balance the two and failed miserably, never to try again.
99% of the people who download this game are going to playing in their living room. No one wants to sit under their coffee table to use a KB/M - yet they still went that direction like it was a selling point to anyone other than the 20+ Eve nerds who hooked their PS3 up to their computer monitor.
Basically, we have a situation where zero out of the three control schemes work at their optimum and the more they try the harder they fail. I'm going to have to recommend that they dump KB/M for now and get DS3 working right first. It would go a long way toward keeping the occasional new player that shows his face there. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1883
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:48:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts. I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514. My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on! I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while. Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different. The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps? And content wise we barely got anything. In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect. I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar. I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced. I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it. But I'm starting to get tired of this game. The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun. With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console. These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either. Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!... What else? What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection? This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT. Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now? And you still don't have the aiming nailed down? You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included. I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust. But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent. Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything. This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear. I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did. Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5cPlease CCP. And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine If by some miracle, this game survives into the next 2 years, I might come back, but it doesn't seem like its going to happen. Have you seen the 33 minute video from E3 that was posted today? |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
530
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Excuse me if I have problems making a coherent thread, I am good at trolling, not writing long serious posts. I was an EVE player for a few years, and I have always wanted to play Dust 514. My PS3 was my preferred place to play (Sorry PC Master race, consoles are just more fun to me) so having a game in the EVE universe on my PS3? Sign me on! I managed to get into the beta, and while the game was glitchy I enjoyed it, for a while. Here we are, 14 months later, and the game is... not that different. The game still has a glitchy feeling, the graphics have only slightly improved (except for the lighting, but everything else is still bad), we got maybe, what, 3 new maps? And content wise we barely got anything. In this time, a team of developers could make a whole new game, and it would still be better in every other aspect. I love CCP, I love the idea, but the execution is subpar. I supported this game for the longest time, I dropped more money on it than any other game to support it, but in 14 months you have barely advanced. I am constantly providing feedback and talking to the devs on IRC, I am very active on the forums, I am very dedicated to this game and I brought many of my friends to try it. But I'm starting to get tired of this game. The excuse that it is Free to Play doesn't hold much water, its just a business model, you still make money off of it, and there are plenty of games coming that are free to play and are polished and fun. With the PS4 on the horizon, and games like Destiny, Planetside 2, Warframe, Blacklight retribution and more, you won't have the benefit of being the only Free to Play shooter on a console. These games are far more polished than Dust514, and while yes they don't have a connection to EVE, we barely see it in Dust either. Oh so EVE ships can drop orbital strikes!... What else? What about players that don't participate in PC? Where do they see the connection? This game MUST get into gear and start releasing content, fixing bugs and GETTING THE CORE MECHANICS RIGHT. Seriously, this game was in development for like what, 5-6 years now? And you still don't have the aiming nailed down? You have 5 more months until the PS4 drops, if this game isn't up to par by then to at least by fun, you are going to lose a LOT of players, me included. I will still keep checking in on the forums, talking on IRC etc', since this community is the best part of Dust. But I won't be playing, and I won't be dropping a single cent. Do you want to know why your entire community is bitter? Its because of this, its because you have been making promises for 14 months and done barely anything. This is a wake up call, get into reality CCP, this game WILL DIE if you don't get into gear. I say this because I want this game to be awesome, I don't want it to fail, I want it to rise through the ashes like EVE did. Here is a video of someone who thinks like I do about the game, so this is what I just wrote only in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYslKa9P5cPlease CCP. And I won't give you guys my stuff, its mine If by some miracle, this game survives into the next 2 years, I might come back, but it doesn't seem like its going to happen. Have you seen the 33 minute video from E3 that was posted today? Yes. So? CCP have promised many things and delivered half baked versions of what they said. I won't be drinking the kool aid any longer, I will believe it when i see it with my own eyes.
Also, those new plates put a sour taste in my mouth for the whole trailer |
Judy Maat
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:54:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP definitely need a wake up call, this game is on the verge of getting stomped like the Xbox one did. Can I listen to TV in my merc quarters? and say "fantasy" and see a list of my Dust Fantasy team scores? |
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